Decoder with Nilay Patel
How The Onion is saving itself from the digital media death spiral
Danielle Strulé
I mean, he's he's incredibly patient. And Jeff really put him on the spot here. Jeff has enough money that he can be in this one for the love. But, you know, we're also not a charity. And he is very rigorous with us about what our model says, how we're meeting the model. And but it's more important to him how we meet the moment. Jeff, if you're out there, buddy, I hope to make you proud.
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