Decoder with Nilay Patel
How The Onion is saving itself from the digital media death spiral
Ben Collins
We came into it and part of the whole dance here with him was figuring each other out and being like, are you really serious about this? Which is like preserving this thing that we really love from our childhood, you know, or preserving this way of speaking about the world and thinking about the world. We both realized like, yeah, we're both really serious about this thing.
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