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Decoder with Nilay Patel

How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith

585.502 - 609.295 Gary Smith

And, you know, there's an interesting point in time here, Nilay, where there was this massive overbuild of fiber capacity in the early 2000s. And it was sort of a telecom, you know, nuclear winter then where we had more capacity than apparently we'd need for the next two decades. And, you know, people built out all of these large fiber networks and sort of no one came.

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