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Decoder with Nilay Patel

How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith

481.798 - 495.483 Nilay Patel

I guess what I'm trying to understand is there's the consumer application layer of the internet. We're all going to watch a bunch of Instagram reels or something. And then there's the internet we need to build to support that. What's the relationship between those two?

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