Decoder with Nilay Patel
How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith
Gary Smith
But it's owned and operated by, you know, the local service provider to support, you know, Meta or Google or Microsoft, et cetera. And so increasingly, you know, I'd sort of argue you're seeing that interdependency work. So it's sort of, you know, I wouldn't say counter-argument to this.
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