Decoder with Nilay Patel
How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith
Gary Smith
Well, listen, I mean, you know, it's sort of under the headings of things you can control and then things that you can't control but need to be mindful of, right? And so it's definitely in that second list. You know, listen, we've had over the last sort of, you know, I could argue... five, 10 years, you know, quite a lot of geopolitical dynamics going on.
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