Decoder with Nilay Patel
How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith
Nilay Patel
What is happening on our networks that connect our countries together and who gets what where? And then there's just the reality of they are wires in the ground. Like bad things happen to them. They get cut. There are wars. How much of that do you engage with personally? How much do you think about, OK, there are some fraught geopolitics that are about to change.
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