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Decoder with Nilay Patel

How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith

219.358 - 238.506 Nilay Patel

And it won't surprise you that Ciena's customers have largely shifted from telecom providers and ISPs to giant cloud companies like Meta and Google and Microsoft over the past few years. In fact, just a few months ago, Meta announced it would pay $10 billion to build its own exclusive subsea cable stretching nearly 25,000 miles.

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