Decoder with Nilay Patel
How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith
Nilay Patel
And I think that's going to lead us into the inevitable conversation we will have about AI. But I just want to stay on this for one second. That verticalization from what we sell as virtualized compute capacity down to we will now own the cables in the ocean and verticalize our business and make sure we own it tip to tail. How has that changed your company?
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