How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith

1236.401 - 1259.09 Gary Smith

And it sort of makes sense that the cloud players who want to connect their data centers, if they're putting a data center in India and they want to connect it to North America... they want to own the connectivity for that, and it's a much higher speed. So they're not just buying the capacity nearly, they're actually taking control and owning the cables. So there's been a sort of a...