Decoder with Nilay Patel
How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith
Gary Smith
So that dynamic, I mean, you take the submarine cables as an example. It's a good proxy for what's happened here. From the 1980s right the way through to 2010, this was all funded by the service providers. So it was a way of getting transatlantic, you know, largely to Europe, a little bit to Asia, you know, transatlantic phone conversations.
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