How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith

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And that means those companies now own most of the capacity of undersea cables. And that chain of events, I think, is not intuitive. unless you're paying attention to it, but just talking to you for 13 minutes here, that seems very intuitive to you. It makes sense to you that they would have the capacity because I'm not sending nearly as much data as a consumer across the ocean.