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Decoder with Nilay Patel

How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO Gary Smith

1080.009 - 1101.899 Nilay Patel

This is the thing that I was talking about at the beginning. It just seems so hard to understand, and it's so interesting to talk to you about it because you're in it, that the internet we experience is obviously changing the dynamics of the internet we build. So I experience my phone and there's a bunch of stuff happening on some data center owned by Google or Microsoft or whoever.

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