Decoder with Nilay Patel
Answering your biggest Decoder questions
Nilay Patel
But at the end of the day, you still have a Spotify website in the background. You still have the DoorDash website in the background. And those companies, I think, are not just going to hand their customers over. They won't hand them over to Apple. They won't hand them over to Google without payments until that economy shakes out.
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