137: Predator

3255.575 - 3281.411 Jack Recider

I can walk into the store and buy binoculars and a camera and an audio recording device. And I practice hacking things. So sometimes I've got little Little devices that can screw around. And some of that stuff's available commercially at DEF CON, and nobody really puts a big stink about that. Like, oh, this is awful. You're giving this to the criminals of the world. It just kind of is out there.