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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again

1552.195 - 1575.122 Chris

I just think that it's kind of a shame. And a lot of times when I hear a group of people talking the abstract, I think it often indicates they don't understand the fundamentals. And you had that kind of happen is these intense, vague names and descriptions of things started to get used more. And it's not that jargon wasn't technical beforehand.

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