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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again

1432.007 - 1445.416 Chris

Yeah, you're right. And that made it way more approachable for people to deploy software. And then there was a lot of grousing. Well, they don't actually know how the system works. But I think we're kind of past all that now. And people. We are not. No, you don't think so. You still think there's.

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