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585: From Ops to Dev and Back Again

1104.279 - 1125.22 Mike

A lot of little guys, myself included, are being forced to pay back money they would not have taken had they not been solicited to take it. I would have simply laid people off. And I'm being compelled to pay it back with interest, which is bullshit because the people I kept employed all got very good jobs anyway. Right.

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