S10 E14: Eric Müller, Presence

670.146 - 690.67 Eric Müller

Our roadmap was very loose. We focused on finding very interesting work. When Jason founded the company, he was like, we're not going to be a designer. We can work with designers, and we're going to have people who are thoughtful about design on our technical staff, and we're going to have product managers and all that. We're going to think about design, but we're not a design firm.