S10 E14: Eric Müller, Presence

462.207 - 481.44 Eric Müller

Because you've got everyone together, everyone's very focused, everyone's very optimistic, And you can put the brakes on a little bit and say, let's do this thing, right? Let's think about it, but let's be realistic, right? What you're describing is not what you need for the first version. You're describing what you need, maybe five versions. This is 10 years from now. So that's my first pass.