In conversation with President Trump

3597.565 - 3622.843 Jason Friedberg

So that's really depressing. And then the fifth one was around this JFK thing. The reason why I asked the JFK question is not necessarily that I have a specific interest in JFK, but it's emblematic of It's a proxy for this deep state, this idea of secrets or this idea of there's a layer of people that are embedded in the United States government that decides on behalf of all of us.