DeepSeek Panic, US vs China, OpenAI $40B?, and Doge Delivers with Travis Kalanick and David Sacks

2979.658 - 2996.246 Jason Calacanis

It could be both, right? I mean, there is a theory that they're trying to undercut and neuter the lead. And at the same time, there's a bunch of people who believe in open source and nobody should control this. And certainly not Sam Altman should be the person who controls it. So two things could be true at the same time. David, thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate it.