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12830.407 - 12853.726 Ben Gilbert

I mean, if you're issued a Ramp or Brex card and you go swipe that, that's a B2B transaction. So they're very excited about addressing B2B both in They're further pushing cards, but also developing B2B-specific products that have more appropriate monetization models. And then they also, we've been talking a lot about consumer-to-business, like when I decide to pay for something at a business.