TSMC Founder Morris Chang

7091.348 - 7135.503 Dr. Morris Chang

He didn't even tell me who our competitor was, who our competitor had been, but I kind of knew that it was IBM from other sources of intelligence. And our business with Qualcomm, the business that Qualcomm gave us, pretty rapidly increased after that, after 97, 98 period. So I immediately knew that IBM Semiconductor was in trouble. Because, I mean, they had their own fabs and so on.