TSMC Founder Morris Chang

7037.907 - 7088.546 Dr. Morris Chang

That's what they call, that's what our customers call their purchasing people. Operations VP, operations senior VP. And I saw him often. And he was always pretty polite, but he gave us very little business. And I also knew that his main foundry was IBM. Now, sometime in the later 90s, I forgot whether it was 97 or 98, suddenly, he started, first he started to tell me that he would use us now.