TSMC Founder Morris Chang

4453.416 - 4503.599 Dr. Morris Chang

No, nothing so concrete. Okay. He just said that we would let you have 40% gross margin. And I think, I didn't say anything. I didn't answer him. I didn't respond to that. But our margin at that time was already 45%. And I was trying to put it up to 50%. It was an announced effort in the company to push the gross margin. And I had that effort for many years after I came back to be the CEO.