TSMC Founder Morris Chang

3521.207 - 3561.21 Dr. Morris Chang

And each group had a small business development section, 30 or 40 people. I think advanced has had more, a bigger group than mainstream. All right. So I wanted to combine the two operation groups. And I also wanted a real marketing. And I didn't call it marketing because I decided to use business development in English because it has a good translation in Chinese. All right.