Porsche (with Doug DeMuro)

4715.758 - 4740.036 David Rosenthal

I think he also was very talented. I mean, he designed the 911 for God's sake. He's talented. But yes, trading on the name here. The other Ferdinand, Piesch. This guy, oh my God, he's a G. So at first, he's like, I imagine inspired by his grandfather, he's like, I'm going to go start my own engineering consulting company and consult for other car companies. He does do that for a little bit.