Microsoft Volume I

5802.014 - 5823.711 Ben Gilbert

But he's the perfect person for this point in time. Bill was like the only salesperson doing these OEM deals. Now they're dealing with IBM. They're entering the enterprise world. This needs to be a real business. Yes. So back to the IBM negotiations. Obviously, Microsoft is very interested. IBM is not just very interested in working with Microsoft. They have to work with Microsoft.