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4819.713 - 4845.273 Ben Gilbert

Totally. But it would have been really easy for him to do one of two things. You know, one, obviously take advantage of Mark and the company and get a lot more for himself. Two, I think he also could have been so jaded by the Plaxo experience to say we shouldn't raise venture capital at all. But actually, what he counsels Mark to do is the right thing. No, we should raise venture capital.