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434.568 - 461.554 Ben Gilbert

You can play sports and you can hang out with your friends and play video games. Indeed. And for Mark and for me growing up and maybe you too, like, it's kind of amazing. Like, there's no reason not to just explore your passions. And for Mark, those passions become threefold. One, turn-based strategy video games, most particularly Sid Meier's Civilization. Two, programming computers.