Lockheed Martin

10959.421 - 10982.472 David Rosenthal

And now I think this is probably changing, and certainly there are smart people in the government that recognize this and their pilot programs to be able to buy software and technology online. But if you look at some of the most successful Silicon Valley-style startups that are selling defense to the government, whether it's SpaceX or Android or others, yeah, they're selling hardware.