Holiday Special 2023

6303.406 - 6334.614 Ben Gilbert

We were down there interviewing Charlie, was that when you're a young person, you should try to become singularly productive, right? And I mean productive in the economic sense, that you are able to soup to nuts within your control, make something of economic value and put it in the world in a way that you own the design, engineering, creation, marketing, distribution, monetization.