Holiday Special 2023

3498.601 - 3518.472 Ben Gilbert

I mean, a byproduct of podcasting is you're not on video that often. So you actually do get to stay less famous than YouTubers or less visually recognizable, which is good. I just kind of generally believe recognizability is fun until you get to a certain level and then it's bad and then you can't put the genie back in the bottle and your life's horrible. And I would like to not become that.