Holiday Special 2023

1710.78 - 1728.53 Ben Gilbert

rather than every other person in the podcast ecosystem that we had spoken with up until that point was, well, you have to figure out how do you layer that second show, or how do you introduce more hosts, or how do you get research assistance so you don't have to do that? And the boutiquiness is one of our greatest strengths, and it was something I think I was trying to run away from for a while.