Hermès

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So for everyone who's like, you know, it's absolutely cruel to do this to crocodiles to make handbags, Hermes doesn't really have like a counterpoint. They don't have like a, well, they lived good lives. That's not a part of their defense. Their defense is purely around sustainable farming, which is, hey, these are endangered species in many scenarios with these exotic leathers.