Chase Center + Summer Update

475.283 - 497.508 Ben Gilbert

Totally. The other thing that was just so surprising about this, hell, I used to work at the Wall Street Journal a long, long time ago, briefly, early in my career. So I identify with it deeply and love the publication and was so glad they were going to cover us. But I at least have always believed that people aren't going to discover podcasts by reading about a podcast or in another medium.