Tom Ellsworth

I've given our boys dolls, even if they tear the head off.

I've given them dolls to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women, but that it's also an activity that is a responsibility of men.

What I've done with both my daughters and my sons is if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just change the he to a she.

And it just normalizes for my sons in particular.

I don't even just do it for my girls.

I do it for my sons because I want them to see that women can be the center of a story.

That women matter.

That women are interesting.

in this place in history, maybe where we're recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these gender roles and ultimately be human.

And that's exciting to me.

So, you know, I'll just continue to kind of do my work and try and deconstruct all of these like limiting narratives about ultimately what it means to be human.

By the way, is it really a big deal if somebody calls himself a professor and they're not?

The way he was representing it, I think it is because it gives yourself some gravitas.

As an adjunct, I never let them call me doctor.

Doctor is a PhD, doctorate.

And so I always had them call me Tom because these were MBA students.

But wait, you like being called biz doc?

He's a doctor.

I never said PhD.

Can we call you Professor Ellsworth?