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The power of the button (Interview)
So I don't know about you, but my toaster goes to 10 and I never go to 10. Okay. I'm always at like three, like who goes to 10?
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What are you doing to go to 10? What kind of person are you?
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Especially a cockpit. I mean, you got toggles, you got flips and switches, and you got the push thing. I think that's the one where they got the throttle, maybe even the yaw or whatnot. I don't know. I'm not a pilot. Mitchell might know, Jared, since I was just editing the show with Mitchell. Right. You got lots of different forms of buttons in a cockpit.
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Like there's no, and then what happens if this thing is no longer a binary on or off toggle thing? Some of you might have to go back and forth 10 times to get a new functionality. Like you got this, this button that is not a button. It's more of a toggle that now the feature for this thing has to be three different options versus two. Well, you got to swap the button out.
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So I know one of the things that developers waste so much time on is reproducing some sort of user interface error or some sort of user flow error. And now there is session replay. To me, it really does seem like the killer feature for Sentry.
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There's a book that you should get and read. It's called the good for nothing button. I won't tell you the story, but it's a good book for kids.
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Okay, friends, I think you know how much I love Notion, but I'm telling you anyways because I love Notion. I use it every day. I love how I can organize all my docs, all my notes, all my projects into a single space. And the cool thing is now they have AI built right in. Yeah, you can AI across your entire workspace, summarize, ask questions, all the things all across your workspace.
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Recently, I've been really enjoying this Notion AI being right at my fingertips to handle that first draft I want to do or to jumpstart a brainstorm I'm trying to do or to turn my messy notes into something that's a little bit more polished. You can even automate tedious tasks like summarizing meeting notes or finding next steps. Notion AI does all this and more.
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Okay, Sentry is always shipping, always helping developers ship with confidence. That's what they do. Check out their launch week details in the link in the show notes. And of course, check out Session Replay's new edition mobile replay in the link in the show notes as well. And here's the best part. If you want to try Sentry, you can do so today with $100 off the team plan.
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I'm thinking about the tried and true DVD or Blu-ray remote kind of thing. It's not maybe something everybody would push, but I still have a Blu-ray player in my house. I'm that kind of crazy person where I still like physical media. Not in all cases, but some cases.
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But my Blu-ray remote, I've got to memorize where the pause button is because it's usually dark when you're watching a movie, right? You don't have a good visual, so you don't have full light. And then the buttons aren't always illuminated buttons either. So you don't know where they're at. And so you have to sort of find it in the dark.
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If it was maybe a screen, it's always moving or I've got to... you know, announce the screen. Now it's bright. People's eyes are changing. Their vision is changing. Whereas the typical remote is the remote. But I know where the play and pause button is. Sometimes I push the menu button and that's a sad part because it ruins the movie.
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But anyways, but I've got it memorized and it's got a little, kind of like a little knob or a little feeling on it, like a little extra piece, like a little dimple or something like that, that tells me this is the play button or this is the pause button. It's okay to push. So I kind of like that physical touch feeling where I don't have to have a visual of it. I can just feel it. And there you go.
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Or it could be Braille.
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Totally free for you to try out for you and your team. Use the code CHANGELOG. Go to sentry.io. again sentry.io
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Yes, for sure. I concur on that one. I feel like. The modern game controller has more buttons than obviously like the NES from back in the day or even the Atari. It began with a joystick and one button. I couldn't imagine game with a joystick and one button right now. I'd just be like, what? How do you do that?
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True. A little easier. Does that translate to you, Rachel?
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You really do learn the city though. You're right. This idea of the mapping the geography to your brain. Like we learned Raleigh pretty quickly even, Jared. Like even in a matter of a day or two, we knew where we were going because we scooted everywhere.
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Let me out of here. Even if the button doesn't work, give me a button.
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I refuse. They don't work anymore. I know they don't work.
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They just do. Let me feel like I've, you know, let you know I'm here. I'm here now. Give me the timer. At least start the timer, right? I might do it. It may not be like, hey, crosswalk now. It's more like someone's here. Let's begin the process to allow somebody to walk.
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Or just jaywalk.
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Adam, do you know about that? I don't know about the flashing of the brights, but I do know there's a sensor in some cases. Not in all cases, but... I can concur on this one because we recently got a light leaving my neighborhood for which there was not a light before. There was a stop sign. But there was also a lot of wrecks. And so there was an occasional wreck at least once a month.
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Somebody had a fender bender because, hey, let me out. No, you can't come. You know, all that stuff.
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road situation but now we have a red light and sometimes i'll be out late going to the store like 11 o'clock which is not super late but it's pretty late for a small town like our small town shuts down at eight there's nothing open after eight so if you're out after eight it might be midnight it's so late kind of thing and so i'm sitting at this red light for a good
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five minutes before I realized the thing had not turned green. I was just like, you know, doing my thing as a driver and it's a new light for us. And so I'm like, well, maybe there's a sensor. Let me back up. Cause I'm past the lines. I'm anxious, you know, cause I've prior to this, it was a stoplight. You would pull out far enough so you can see around the turn and confirm and drive away.
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And so I'm still learning how to, you know, use this intersection. So I back up and I wait and the red light is still red. And I see the opposing sides. I can see that the lights are, Doing their thing. Still green. They go to yellow. They go to red. Here I'm still red. Now we're all red. Where is my green light?
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So what did I do? You run it. I waited 10 minutes because I was like, okay, I'm not going to get pulled over.
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I wasted 10 minutes of my life. That's the story. I wasted 10 minutes of my life thinking there was a sensor and there was no sensor. I don't know, is the long story short. I don't know if they're censors or not. I know I tried to see if there was one. And I was waiting and it did not happen. And I ended up running the red light. Good story. Don't listen to this, cops. It's not true.
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Have you considered, as part of your research in your book, to create a decision tree of when to make it a button and when to make it, okay, this could be either or kind of thing. Is there any guidance you have or expertise based upon your research that says, I can go look at this and as I'm a designer or a decision maker in the idea of a button or no button,
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or how to deal with the scenario, do you have any wisdom to share like a decision tree or anything that says, yes, in this case, button, or no, in this case, digital is fine?
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And we had fun talking about all the research she did, all the things that go into pushing buttons. creating buttons, the history of analog to digital, touchscreens, and more. We also discuss her next book and research. The book is called License to Spill, Where Dry Devices Meet Liquid Lives. Man, what a fun conversation and a great episode to kick off the year.
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Yeah, for sure. It's probably hard to create a decision tree like that for all buttons in all scenarios for all things. Cause there you're right there back to the cyber truck, for example. And maybe this is the case for most Tesla cars and vehicles. I'm not really sure, but in my experience, I haven't really driven any Tesla. You can confirm this, Jared, you drove a Tesla before.
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The shifter is in the screen. I'm like, okay, I think I had to slide my finger to park or to drive. It was like some sort of abnormal, not the way of every driven car I've ever driven in my life. And so I'm like, what? How is it there? And I'm sure once you've become accustomed to it, it's okay. But imagine if you're James Bond, right? Just imagine this.
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And you have to get away from the bad guys, right? And you hop into a Cybertruck and you've never driven one before, right? You're going to get caught because you don't know how to push it to drive. That would be a funny little sketch. That would be really funny. Or when you take your foot off the accelerator, it's going to start braking on you. Like that's not what's supposed to happen.
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Don't start braking when I accidentally just remove my foot. You have to always have your foot on the accelerator. It's so strange.
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Yeah. Simplicity is good and complexity is good. Simplicity in the fact that you've got one button back to the Kodak camera. Hey, even you can push the button. I agree with that. It's kind of cool. Like you've got this automatic camera. All you had to do was push the button and turn the thing.
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Those two steps and you could take photos or in the case of something complex or catastrophic, multiple steps before the button push and don't make it so simple.
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Media hygiene. Do you have as part of your study is how many germs are on my iPhone kind of thing? Or is it is it in that realm?
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Have you or someone you know been a victim of identity theft? Maybe you've been harassed on the internet. Maybe you've been stalked. Maybe you've been doxxed. Privacy is important. You know, my bubble, your bubble, my space, your space. Don't cross into my world unless you belong there, right? Get out of here. That's what I tell spammers, but they don't listen.
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But have you ever wondered how much of your personal data is out there on the Internet just waiting to be gobbled up and sold to anyone for anyone to see? Well, there's more than you think. Your name, your contact info, your social security number, the thing that unlocks your credit history, your home address, even information about your family and your friends.
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It's all being compiled by data brokers and is being sold online. And these data brokers make a profit off your data. It's a commodity. Anyone on the web can buy your private details. Turns into identity theft, phishing, harassment, unwanted spam calls. I get so many of those.
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He's splashing, too. Yeah.
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Who is this book for? Is it for everyday people like Jared and I that we're just going to start taking caution or knowing when or what to expect with different devices? Who is the consumer or the reader generally?
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How much did you open up the topic of right to repair considering buttons, right? Like if you, going back to buttons, if it's behind a screen, it's less easily repairable. Whereas if it's a digital analog button, let's just say, I'm sure there's some digital behind the analogness of the button, but you can at least potentially, you know, swap out that sensor to correct that button issue.
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How much did you push the button, I suppose, on this topic? Somebody had to do it.
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How long was this research? Like, how deep did you have to go? How was it funded? What was the purpose of this research? Obviously, you wrote a book, but like, was that the whole point of the research? What's the backstory there?
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Yeah, I don't know either. There's a note here, at least in the description of the book, that says obsolescence culture. What does that reference to? Like planned obsolescence or something else?
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I have to share my example then, since that's how it works. So we had a microwave. I say had because we had to swap it out. Thankfully, we can get the exact same one. And so this issue with the microwave was not the function of the microwave. It was the digital touchpad, which is kind of like analog buttons, but they're just really like these depressible buttons.
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It's sort of the non-screen buttons.
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Membrane keys. There you go. Well, when you push certain buttons, they wouldn't do the function that the button did anymore. And then that was okay because I was like, well, I don't really push nine so frequently. So I can, I'm okay with that. Fine. I can't do 19 minutes, which I would never do in a microwave unless it was something crazy, I suppose. Right. Or nine minutes.
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But okay, I can not live with the nine button. I can live without the nine button. But then it became the other buttons like zero or one. It's like, well, I have to have one. Yeah. You know, and then the screen that shows you like the liquid display, the LCD, if that's what it was, only with an LCD, but some sort of liquid crystal display. which is LCD.
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I was trying to be more specific, but then I messed up again. So just follow me. Just do your best, okay? We're with you, man. We're with you. Stick with the buttons. The buttons. The screen stopped working. So we're like, okay, this microwave is no longer usable.
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And we don't microwave so frequently that it was like that big of a deal, but we had to replace it because there are certain things like maybe popcorn or just certain things you would use it for. Sure. And then it was like, well, we have to replace it with one that fits in there because it was a built-in microwave and it had a surround around it. And so thankfully we can go and replace it.
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So we literally took this microwave that functioned properly, that could not be commanded properly. And it became obsolete because no one, I can't give it to somebody. Maybe I can share it with the electronics person who can repair it, but then they have to have enough value in the process to repair it to get the value back out from their time.
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So here's me spending 200 bucks on a new microwave or whatever the number was for the same exact thing. Just to get done, it's like, ah, fixed. And it was just like it was. It was like the same microwave. And we got rid of it because of that.
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What's with this new research thing? Can you talk more about this energy drinks and computers? Can you tease? Where is it at? Have you put anything online yet?
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Yeah, you're right, Jared. Red Bull has done it well. There's a big fascination, too. And you kind of arrived if you're sponsored by Red Bull. I pay attention to mountain biking, professional mountain biking. And there's several folks I pay attention to that are in the game. And they got one of the YouTubers. He's a YouTuber, too, I suppose.
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But he shared his story of how 10 years ago it was a dream that he became like a Red Bull rider, that he was sponsored by them. And he has been since and how his life has changed. it's almost like arriving.
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It's like major leagues, but for this sort of like, it's still a sport, but it's this uniquely styled sport where it's extreme sports like skateboarding or mountain biking or maybe even snowboarding. I think there's lots of different stuff around that, but that's really wild how they've been able to use that marketing to entrench themselves.
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And now they even have Red Bull TV where they literally are a media company more so than just simply a drink company. They've transcended their original, it's almost like Apple, Where they kind of began as Apple computers, now they're just Apple because it's beyond the computer. They've transcended, and I suppose they're also into music and films and stuff too.
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What I find funny, though, is that these folks I see, they drink Red Bull. And I'm like, well, and I don't know much about Red Bull, but I'm also in that camp where I don't know much about the health benefits or lack thereof. And I'm thinking, really, do you really drink Red Bull that much?
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And then sign it.
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Yeah, I love it. Here you go. Here's your wet book.
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I can't read it. I know. That's the point. That's the issue. You have to buy another one.
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So you mentioned a Twitch coming up for your future research, but what about a website? Where can people go to find all the details of your books and your research and future research?
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All the things. And the Twitch is when again? January what?
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Who should attend that? Like what's who's that made for?
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Okay, first show back from the year, pushing some buttons. Literally. Mostly literally. Either way, the power of the button is real, and we all have feelings about it. That's a good thing. Well, we're off to a good start. CPU.fm is spinning up as we speak. Lots of things happening behind the scenes and we're excited about what's coming next for the change log for cpu.fm for all the things.
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Not cool. Not cool. I do like the simplicity of a button, you know, and I do get the move to that. I'm thinking of things like cars, you know, obviously the real answer is like, I've got this button in my vehicle where it auto turns the engine on and off. So my engine has this, where if I stop at a stoplight, it auto offs and there's a button to turn that off. To turn that feature off.
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Yes, and thankfully it's not behind a screen. But as you were describing that, I'm in this state of like, well, I don't want a screen, I want a button. But then you're making me think, well, that button really is just a physical button that's still just like the same button in the screen.
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Because I'm thinking like if the screen doesn't work right or the operating system of whatever makes the screen work, does that mean that the button can't work anymore? You know, that's the concern I would have.
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And don't change the core feature of a car. If the wheel turns, that's what makes the wheels move. Don't make the wheel turn do the turn signal. That would be silly, right? Keep the common feature set of that in place. I'm thinking of the Cybertruck. The Cybertruck is not so much anti this, but the turn... Have either of you ever driven a Cybertruck? No. Okay. I've driven it one time.
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A friend of mine has one. And it's just so crazy because... I don't know what the steering is called. I'm not a fan so that I know all the terms and whatnot, but the steering, the wheel does not turn like a normal wheel or traditional wheel, I should say, where you have to turn, turn, turn to make your left hand or right hand turn.
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It is very much just a very little, and if you can see the camera, I'm just doing a little motion. It's not like big, big. Like a race car style. Yeah, it's very, and it's adaptive, but to drive it, you have to relearn how to drive it. When you take your foot off the gas, which is a button, right? A pedal is a button. It's not some sort of like computer screen switch. It's literally a foot pedal.
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And it's a toggle for you to analog how to make the vehicle move forward or stop or whatever. As soon as you take your foot off the accelerator, it begins to decelerate. Not like a vehicle, like a non-cybertruck. It begins to brake, basically. It's a... Basically, the way the engine works, it's a natural brake.
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So you actually don't have to brake much in a Cybertruck, which is kind of cool, but you have to relearn how to drive. And I guess my bringing that up because sometimes you'll change the common feature set of what are typically analog buttons or pedals or whatnot, and you have to relearn how to use them in this new modern way because somebody decides to change it.
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Okay, first show of the year. Yes, welcome back. This is The Change Log. We feature the hackers, the leaders, and those who research pushing buttons. Yes, today we're joined by Rachel Plotnick, the author of Power Button. This is a book on the history of pleasure, panic, and the politics of pushing buttons.
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Where did you begin your research then? So you got curious. What was the next step?
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Jasmine, I know that session replay is one of those features that just once you use it, it becomes the way. How widely adopted is session replay for Sentry?
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I got to imagine color matters, right? Like certain buttons should be certain colors. Certain buttons should be concealed behind a piece of glass and a key. You must turn the key to push the button or turn a key to open the thing to be able to turn the key to push the button. Right. No Homer Simpson moments. Yes, exactly. Or other moments, but sure.
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The power of the button (Interview)
You're so right, though, about a lot of the activity we do in a day is pushing a button. I wonder if it would be a good exercise or maybe not for a podcast to imagine most of a day. I'm like, what's the very first thing you do in the morning that you might push a button? Well, I have a toothbrush that has a button that begins to, I don't know, vibrate. I don't know what it does.
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The power of the button (Interview)
It does something to make my teeth get better. You know, it's my doctor recommended it. It's a dentist approved, of course. So that's at least one early morning button. Early morning button. I think maybe a next button might be like the lever from my shower. Like, is that a button or is it a lever? Are levers buttons? What do you think?
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The power of the button (Interview)
Let me just say, if I had to push a button to turn my shower on, I would love it if I can just push a button that says, I'm just guessing at a temperature, 100 degrees Fahrenheit, of course. Or maybe give me 92 degrees. I want a slightly cooler shower because I don't want to be so hot. I would love that button where it's like a precision button versus like a...
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The power of the button (Interview)
Fine tuning the, where is the, and I've got one of those one that begins at 12 o'clock and you turn it to a certain part. That's like, Hey, that's your hot temperature.