Steve Levitt

Hey, Dubner.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

No, there are endless people I admire.

I always thought it would get easier and easier to get people to come to the podcast because it's my own rule when I'm asked to come on a podcast.

is I look at who's been on it before and if they're way more interesting and important than I am, then I'm going, I better do it because those people know better than me.

I believe in markets.

So I thought as we got this list, it got more and more impressive.

Everyone would just come, but they don't.

Other than Taylor Swift, who's on the top of your wishlist?

I've always wanted Joel Osteen, the radio TV evangelist.

I just find the way he speaks to be so remarkable.

So even before I started the podcast, one day, shortly before my birthday, my wife Suzanne said, I have a surprise for your birthday.

We're going to go on a trip.

And my reaction was, oh no, there's nowhere I want to go.

There's nothing I want to do.

And I was so afraid it was going to be a party or something.

Thank God it wasn't a party.

How about a silent retreat?

Would that have been better?