Stan Shanley

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My name is Stan Shanley. I co-host the show with my true colleague, Clarence Jones. And off we go on our show today. We have Brandon. Brandon Jones is with us today. If some of you had a chance, he was with us and did a show on narcissism, and I encourage you all to listen to that show as well. Quite interesting.

My name is Stan Shanley. I co-host the show with my true colleague, Clarence Jones. And off we go on our show today. We have Brandon. Brandon Jones is with us today. If some of you had a chance, he was with us and did a show on narcissism, and I encourage you all to listen to that show as well. Quite interesting.

I personally learned a lot on that show, and I'm looking forward to this one as well on stress. So Brandon is the Executive Director of the Minnesota Association of Children's Mental Health, MACMH.

I personally learned a lot on that show, and I'm looking forward to this one as well on stress. So Brandon is the Executive Director of the Minnesota Association of Children's Mental Health, MACMH.

his background is in sociology community psychology and marriage and family therapy he's a psychotherapist professor of behavior and behavioral health consultants he has worked as a school-based mental health counselor and specializes in therapeutic services within communities of color brandon Great having you back.

his background is in sociology community psychology and marriage and family therapy he's a psychotherapist professor of behavior and behavioral health consultants he has worked as a school-based mental health counselor and specializes in therapeutic services within communities of color brandon Great having you back.

Absolutely. You know, I think about stressors. You know, what causes these things? And, you know, it's just like, you don't have to think very far. It's just like going to an airport today is a completely different story than... years ago. I distinctly remember meeting our friends, loved ones, whatever, at the gate. At the gate, yeah. At the gate.

Absolutely. You know, I think about stressors. You know, what causes these things? And, you know, it's just like, you don't have to think very far. It's just like going to an airport today is a completely different story than... years ago. I distinctly remember meeting our friends, loved ones, whatever, at the gate. At the gate, yeah. At the gate.

And you would walk into the airport, go down to the gate, thank you very much. Now, as good as air transportation is, it gets you there quicker. In my estimation, that's the only advantage. Otherwise, the whole episode of just like going to an airport and navigating all this stuff and going through security, etc., etc., is a stressor. It really is a stressor.

And you would walk into the airport, go down to the gate, thank you very much. Now, as good as air transportation is, it gets you there quicker. In my estimation, that's the only advantage. Otherwise, the whole episode of just like going to an airport and navigating all this stuff and going through security, etc., etc., is a stressor. It really is a stressor.

And, you know, for many people, they can't handle it. I've heard people say, I'm done traveling by air. just as an illustration. So stressors is one thing. The other thing, and Maddie, you brought this up, is panic attack. I had a panic attack. I've only had one in my life, and it's when I had a detached retina in my eye, and it just put me over the edge.

And, you know, for many people, they can't handle it. I've heard people say, I'm done traveling by air. just as an illustration. So stressors is one thing. The other thing, and Maddie, you brought this up, is panic attack. I had a panic attack. I've only had one in my life, and it's when I had a detached retina in my eye, and it just put me over the edge.

Hello, everybody. Welcome to Health Chatter. Today's episode is on stress. And I think we all kind of embrace stress at different levels. So we'll hear a lot about that today. Great guests with us. As always, our crew is with us. We have Maddie Levine-Wolf, who's doing our recording today. Thank you. Thank you, Maddie.

Hello, everybody. Welcome to Health Chatter. Today's episode is on stress. And I think we all kind of embrace stress at different levels. So we'll hear a lot about that today. Great guests with us. As always, our crew is with us. We have Maddie Levine-Wolf, who's doing our recording today. Thank you. Thank you, Maddie.

And let me tell you, physiologically, when you have a panic attack, you know, from a high level of stress, it really does something to you. And when you get over it, you remember that stressor. You just remember it. It becomes like almost part of your psyche going forward. And hopefully that's a way that your body that copes with things similar to that going forward Yeah, Clarence.

And let me tell you, physiologically, when you have a panic attack, you know, from a high level of stress, it really does something to you. And when you get over it, you remember that stressor. You just remember it. It becomes like almost part of your psyche going forward. And hopefully that's a way that your body that copes with things similar to that going forward Yeah, Clarence.

I have a feeling that there might be some other major themes and discussion points that we might invite you to, but today's is on stress. So thanks for being with us once again.

I have a feeling that there might be some other major themes and discussion points that we might invite you to, but today's is on stress. So thanks for being with us once again.

You're a little stressed.

You're a little stressed.

You know, our excellent researchers put together some what I think are some really interesting things, like 55% of Americans are stressed during the day compared to the global average of the number of stressed people is 35%. So what the heck is going on in the United States compared to other places in the world? I mean, what's going on here?

You know, our excellent researchers put together some what I think are some really interesting things, like 55% of Americans are stressed during the day compared to the global average of the number of stressed people is 35%. So what the heck is going on in the United States compared to other places in the world? I mean, what's going on here?

You know, it's interesting because I want everybody in our listening audience to say, don't get stressed out when you hear all of this. I mean, just because we're changing doesn't necessarily mean that that's bad. It's how we as human beings cope going forward that's a little different. But you bring up some interesting ideas, Brandon, you know, like housing.

You know, it's interesting because I want everybody in our listening audience to say, don't get stressed out when you hear all of this. I mean, just because we're changing doesn't necessarily mean that that's bad. It's how we as human beings cope going forward that's a little different. But you bring up some interesting ideas, Brandon, you know, like housing.

is is is a big issue um the future of our nation you know and how how how individuals perceive it you brought up political climate violence you know in in how it's become unfortunately kind of almost like a norm in our society to to have violence yeah which i yeah Yeah, to me, that's really, really sad. And then, of course, you mentioned race.

is is is a big issue um the future of our nation you know and how how how individuals perceive it you brought up political climate violence you know in in how it's become unfortunately kind of almost like a norm in our society to to have violence yeah which i yeah Yeah, to me, that's really, really sad. And then, of course, you mentioned race.

There's also an interesting one, you know, for women, body image becomes, you know, I'm not keeping up, you know, on how I look, you know, and that can be, you know, a stressor, you know, especially when you see, you know, everything on social media where everybody looks beautiful and, you know, the whole thing.

There's also an interesting one, you know, for women, body image becomes, you know, I'm not keeping up, you know, on how I look, you know, and that can be, you know, a stressor, you know, especially when you see, you know, everything on social media where everybody looks beautiful and, you know, the whole thing.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And people go through lifestyle changes.

And people go through lifestyle changes.

You know, just, you know, and that could be, you know, from, you know, in and out of work or you have a severe medical issue that creates a lifestyle change or deaths in the family. You know, all those things. It just seems like, wow.

You know, just, you know, and that could be, you know, from, you know, in and out of work or you have a severe medical issue that creates a lifestyle change or deaths in the family. You know, all those things. It just seems like, wow.

Yeah. So, all right. So, you know, I was talking to Clarence a little bit before the show and one Maybe you can help all of us distinguish between stress and anxiety.

Yeah. So, all right. So, you know, I was talking to Clarence a little bit before the show and one Maybe you can help all of us distinguish between stress and anxiety.

So have coping skills changed? Absolutely, absolutely. Just because of all of these stressors?

So have coping skills changed? Absolutely, absolutely. Just because of all of these stressors?

Yeah, like for me, you know, going on a roller coaster is incredibly stressful. Yeah. For other people, it's like. It's exhilarating. The best exhilarating. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like for me, you know, going on a roller coaster is incredibly stressful. Yeah. For other people, it's like. It's exhilarating. The best exhilarating. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a great question.

That's a great question.

You know, one thing that I've noticed, and maybe Barry and Clarence, you can chime in on this as well, is today I perceive a lot of extreme highs and extreme lows. Yeah. As opposed to like, you know, when I was younger, yeah, we had highs and lows, but not way up and way down. It was more kind of even keeled up and down. Is that a fair assessment, Brandon? Oh, absolutely.

You know, one thing that I've noticed, and maybe Barry and Clarence, you can chime in on this as well, is today I perceive a lot of extreme highs and extreme lows. Yeah. As opposed to like, you know, when I was younger, yeah, we had highs and lows, but not way up and way down. It was more kind of even keeled up and down. Is that a fair assessment, Brandon? Oh, absolutely.

Everything, take it as you go and try to deal with the ups and downs as best as you can. Last thoughts, Clarence.

Everything, take it as you go and try to deal with the ups and downs as best as you can. Last thoughts, Clarence.

Thank you. So maybe it should be ABC cubed.

Thank you. So maybe it should be ABC cubed.

Barry, last thoughts.

Barry, last thoughts.

You know, my ending thought is hang around positive things, whether it's people, whether it's thoughts, whether it's activities, that really gets you through a lot of things. Brandon, this has been wonderful. You've got incredibly great insights. And we really do thank you for your insights on this, but on previous shows, there might be other ones coming up.

You know, my ending thought is hang around positive things, whether it's people, whether it's thoughts, whether it's activities, that really gets you through a lot of things. Brandon, this has been wonderful. You've got incredibly great insights. And we really do thank you for your insights on this, but on previous shows, there might be other ones coming up.

When your book comes out, we'd love to have you on the show. We can discuss it for sure. So thanks for being with us. To our listening audience, we've got great shows coming up. Stay tuned for them. We're looking at the future of public health

When your book comes out, we'd love to have you on the show. We can discuss it for sure. So thanks for being with us. To our listening audience, we've got great shows coming up. Stay tuned for them. We're looking at the future of public health

education based on many of the things that have happened in in the public health world access to care and and and health insurance health care disparities is is another huge topic and and we'll start delving into that so thank you for for everybody thank you for listening and keep health chatting going

education based on many of the things that have happened in in the public health world access to care and and and health insurance health care disparities is is another huge topic and and we'll start delving into that so thank you for for everybody thank you for listening and keep health chatting going

Also, Maddie does background research for us, along with Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, And Sheridan Nygaard. Sheridan also does some marketing work for us as well. Our production manager is Matthew Campbell, who gets all the shows out to you in perfect format. So as you listen to them, however you do them, he's the one that gets them to you. So thank you to everybody. Clarence Jones, my co-host.

Also, Maddie does background research for us, along with Aaron Collins, Deandra Howard, And Sheridan Nygaard. Sheridan also does some marketing work for us as well. Our production manager is Matthew Campbell, who gets all the shows out to you in perfect format. So as you listen to them, however you do them, he's the one that gets them to you. So thank you to everybody. Clarence Jones, my co-host.

Great, great colleague. Great show and we're having a good time doing it. So Clarence, many, many thanks. Also, Human Partnership is our sponsor for these shows. Community Health Organization does wonderful community health work out in the community and it's spelled H-U-E-M-A-N humanpartnership.org You can check them out. Also, you can check our website out at healthchatterpodcast.com.

Great, great colleague. Great show and we're having a good time doing it. So Clarence, many, many thanks. Also, Human Partnership is our sponsor for these shows. Community Health Organization does wonderful community health work out in the community and it's spelled H-U-E-M-A-N humanpartnership.org You can check them out. Also, you can check our website out at healthchatterpodcast.com.

So let's talk a little bit. You alluded to it briefly, like the physiological side, affects that. And I can tell a personal story as well. But let's talk about the physiological responses. Like, you know, there are certain things that kind of, I'm only guessing that kind of puts you up and over, you know, the top of the mountain as far as stress, and it really can affect

So let's talk a little bit. You alluded to it briefly, like the physiological side, affects that. And I can tell a personal story as well. But let's talk about the physiological responses. Like, you know, there are certain things that kind of, I'm only guessing that kind of puts you up and over, you know, the top of the mountain as far as stress, and it really can affect

your body one way or the other. Like, you know, I know for one thing, it can increase your, your blood pressure, et cetera. But what, what can you tell our audience about the physiological effects of this stuff?

your body one way or the other. Like, you know, I know for one thing, it can increase your, your blood pressure, et cetera. But what, what can you tell our audience about the physiological effects of this stuff?

So does it change the cortisol levels change as you get older or is it just kind of a response to stress?

So does it change the cortisol levels change as you get older or is it just kind of a response to stress?