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You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Keir Gaines.

This space is about Black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing, how many men

carry a suit of armor it signals to the world that you not to be played with and just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to listen to learn the hard way on the iHeartRadio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts

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Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keir Gaines.

I'm talking Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark.

Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing...

We get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.

And we're still chasing it.

And we don't know when we've done enough.

Because people scoreboard watch.

Life becomes about wins and losses.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.

Because you find it important to be a good person while you're here on earth?

Or are you a good person because you're afraid?

Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust.