Ronnie Tokazowski
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Yeah, so hearing that story, I've heard it a thousand times over.
Yeah, so hearing that story, I've heard it a thousand times over.
Oh, yeah, yeah. So my name is Ronnie Tokazowski. I've been fighting business email compromise for the last eight years now. So my role in this is I work behind the scenes with a lot of people who are working with romance scam victims. I do a lot of work with Secret Service, FBI. I also work back and forth with victims too.
Oh, yeah, yeah. So my name is Ronnie Tokazowski. I've been fighting business email compromise for the last eight years now. So my role in this is I work behind the scenes with a lot of people who are working with romance scam victims. I do a lot of work with Secret Service, FBI. I also work back and forth with victims too.
Because a lot of what happens is the scammers will go to different dating websites. They will go and... Find people in order to date. They will move the discussions off of the platform just because most of the platforms cost. But they'll move it to WhatsApp. And then from there, they'll start grooming the person. They'll say loving things.
Because a lot of what happens is the scammers will go to different dating websites. They will go and... Find people in order to date. They will move the discussions off of the platform just because most of the platforms cost. But they'll move it to WhatsApp. And then from there, they'll start grooming the person. They'll say loving things.
We've had pick cases where some of the victims might send nude pictures over to their lover. And once they go and are exchanging those sweet nothings, the scammers directly build that relationship, build those emotions.
We've had pick cases where some of the victims might send nude pictures over to their lover. And once they go and are exchanging those sweet nothings, the scammers directly build that relationship, build those emotions.
Yeah. So the term pig butchering comes from a Chinese phrase called Xia Zhupan, which is essentially a broiled... I think it's broiled meat. I forget the exact translation. But what the concept is, is the scammers will go and try and fatten the pig, if you will. So what they will do is extract as much money as they can out of a victim.
Yeah. So the term pig butchering comes from a Chinese phrase called Xia Zhupan, which is essentially a broiled... I think it's broiled meat. I forget the exact translation. But what the concept is, is the scammers will go and try and fatten the pig, if you will. So what they will do is extract as much money as they can out of a victim.
And where the pig butchering comes in is that once the scammers get to a point where they feel like they can't get any more money out of the victim, they will take the pig in for slaughter or slaughter the pig. And what they mean by that is actually pulling the rug out from under the victims and like walking away and essentially be like, I got all the money that we could.
And where the pig butchering comes in is that once the scammers get to a point where they feel like they can't get any more money out of the victim, they will take the pig in for slaughter or slaughter the pig. And what they mean by that is actually pulling the rug out from under the victims and like walking away and essentially be like, I got all the money that we could.
So that's kind of where the phrase pig butchering comes from.
So that's kind of where the phrase pig butchering comes from.
Him and his girlfriend, they were dating for several years. Like, they've been together for as long as I've known. It's probably about eight years now that they've been together. So they were engaged to be married. They had a house together. And unfortunately, things happened and that relationship kind of flopped. So they went their separate ways. He lost the house.
Him and his girlfriend, they were dating for several years. Like, they've been together for as long as I've known. It's probably about eight years now that they've been together. So they were engaged to be married. They had a house together. And unfortunately, things happened and that relationship kind of flopped. So they went their separate ways. He lost the house.
And unfortunately, it wasn't really a good circumstance. breakups are hard.
And unfortunately, it wasn't really a good circumstance. breakups are hard.
So he went to go online and go date somebody. So he went onto a dating platform, found this really pretty French girl who was very involved with him and very kind of attached to him. So the two of them really hit it off. And at some point she popped the question to say, hey, I'm also doing a lot of crypto investments. Is that something that you'd be interested in?
So he went to go online and go date somebody. So he went onto a dating platform, found this really pretty French girl who was very involved with him and very kind of attached to him. So the two of them really hit it off. And at some point she popped the question to say, hey, I'm also doing a lot of crypto investments. Is that something that you'd be interested in?