Pieter Levels

No, so I... So I'm like famous for this because I'm too lazy to set up like a staging server on my laptop every time. So nowadays I just deploy to production.

No, so I... So I'm like famous for this because I'm too lazy to set up like a staging server on my laptop every time. So nowadays I just deploy to production.

And it's, man, I'm going to get canceled for this, you know, but it works very well for me because I have a lot of, I have like PHP lint and JS lint. So it tells me when there's error. So I don't deploy. Yeah. But my literally, I, I, I have like 37,000 Git commits in the last 12 months or something. So I make like small fix and then command enter, uh, and sends to GitHub.

And it's, man, I'm going to get canceled for this, you know, but it works very well for me because I have a lot of, I have like PHP lint and JS lint. So it tells me when there's error. So I don't deploy. Yeah. But my literally, I, I, I have like 37,000 Git commits in the last 12 months or something. So I make like small fix and then command enter, uh, and sends to GitHub.

GitHub sends a web to my server, web server pulls it, deploys the production and is there.

GitHub sends a web to my server, web server pulls it, deploys the production and is there.

One second can be one, two seconds.

One second can be one, two seconds.

Man, you're 100% right. Like people are like, how can you do this? Well, you get good at not taking the server down, you know? Because you need to code more carefully. But it's, look, it's idiotic in any big company, but for me it works because it makes me so fast. Like somebody will report a bug on Twitter And I kind of did do like a stopwatch, like how fast can I fix this bug?

Man, you're 100% right. Like people are like, how can you do this? Well, you get good at not taking the server down, you know? Because you need to code more carefully. But it's, look, it's idiotic in any big company, but for me it works because it makes me so fast. Like somebody will report a bug on Twitter And I kind of did do like a stopwatch, like how fast can I fix this bug?

And then two minutes later, for example, it's fixed. And it's fun because it's annoying for me to work with companies where you report a bug and it takes like six months. It's like horrible. And it makes people really happy when you can really quickly solve their problems. But it's crazy.

And then two minutes later, for example, it's fixed. And it's fun because it's annoying for me to work with companies where you report a bug and it takes like six months. It's like horrible. And it makes people really happy when you can really quickly solve their problems. But it's crazy.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's so fun to have like a daily challenge where you try to figure stuff out.

It's so fun to have like a daily challenge where you try to figure stuff out.

No, they do because there's more bugs. And people complain about like, oh, look, he bought this Twitter and now it's full of bugs. Dude, these shipping stuff, like things are happening now and it's a dynamic app now.

No, they do because there's more bugs. And people complain about like, oh, look, he bought this Twitter and now it's full of bugs. Dude, these shipping stuff, like things are happening now and it's a dynamic app now.

The preferred outcome for them is probably their career and not the overall result of the cool product, you know?

The preferred outcome for them is probably their career and not the overall result of the cool product, you know?

I have this when I report bugs on like big companies I work with. I talk to a lot of different people on DM and they're all really trying hard to do something. They're all really nice. And I'm the one being kind of asshole because I'm like, guys, I'm talking to 20 people about this for six months and nothing's happening. They say, man, I know, but I'm trying my best. And yeah, so it's systemic.

I have this when I report bugs on like big companies I work with. I talk to a lot of different people on DM and they're all really trying hard to do something. They're all really nice. And I'm the one being kind of asshole because I'm like, guys, I'm talking to 20 people about this for six months and nothing's happening. They say, man, I know, but I'm trying my best. And yeah, so it's systemic.

Yeah. The problem is I don't dictate that, right? Like if more people start using, if millions of people suddenly start using it and it becomes big, I'm not going to say, oh, stop signing up to my website and pay me money. But I never raised funding for it. And I think because I don't like the stressful life that comes with it, like I have a lot of founder friends who

Yeah. The problem is I don't dictate that, right? Like if more people start using, if millions of people suddenly start using it and it becomes big, I'm not going to say, oh, stop signing up to my website and pay me money. But I never raised funding for it. And I think because I don't like the stressful life that comes with it, like I have a lot of founder friends who

I think big companies, especially in America, a lot of it is legal, right? You need to pass everything through legal.

I think big companies, especially in America, a lot of it is legal, right? You need to pass everything through legal.

And you can't like, man, the things I do, I could never do it in a big corporation because everything has to be, probably get deployed has to go through legal.

And you can't like, man, the things I do, I could never do it in a big corporation because everything has to be, probably get deployed has to go through legal.

And the law can change. For example, let's say you launch this AI dubbing and there's some legal problems with lawsuits. Okay, so the law changes. There will be appeals. There will be some Supreme Court thing, whatever. And the law changes. So just by shipping it, you change society. You change the legal framework.

And the law can change. For example, let's say you launch this AI dubbing and there's some legal problems with lawsuits. Okay, so the law changes. There will be appeals. There will be some Supreme Court thing, whatever. And the law changes. So just by shipping it, you change society. You change the legal framework.

By not shipping, being scared of the legal framework all the time, like you're not changing things.

By not shipping, being scared of the legal framework all the time, like you're not changing things.

Yeah, VS Code. Before I used Sublime Text, I don't think it matters a lot. I think I'm very skeptical of like tools when people think it, they say it matters, right? I don't think it matters. I think... whatever tool you know very well, you can go very fast in.

Yeah, VS Code. Before I used Sublime Text, I don't think it matters a lot. I think I'm very skeptical of like tools when people think it, they say it matters, right? I don't think it matters. I think... whatever tool you know very well, you can go very fast in.

Like, you know, the shortcuts, for example, IDE, you know, like I love Sublime Text because I could use like multi-cursor, you know, you search something and I could like make mass replaces in a file with the cursor thing. And VS Code doesn't really have that as well.

Like, you know, the shortcuts, for example, IDE, you know, like I love Sublime Text because I could use like multi-cursor, you know, you search something and I could like make mass replaces in a file with the cursor thing. And VS Code doesn't really have that as well.

Yeah. It's not so good. I think, or at least I tried, but I would use that to like, uh, process data, like, um, data sets, for example, from world bank, I would just multi-cursor mass change everything. Um, But yeah, VS Code, man, I was bullied into using VS Code because Twitter would always see my screenshots of Sublime Text and say, why are you still using Sublime Text?

Yeah. It's not so good. I think, or at least I tried, but I would use that to like, uh, process data, like, um, data sets, for example, from world bank, I would just multi-cursor mass change everything. Um, But yeah, VS Code, man, I was bullied into using VS Code because Twitter would always see my screenshots of Sublime Text and say, why are you still using Sublime Text?

Like, boomer, you need to use VS Code. And I'm like, well, I'll try it. I got a new MacBook and then I never installed, like, I never copied the old MacBook. I just make it fresh, you know, like a clean, like format C, you know, Windows, like clean start. And I'm like, okay, I'll try VS Code and it's stuck, you know, but I don't really care. Like, it's not so important for me.

Like, boomer, you need to use VS Code. And I'm like, well, I'll try it. I got a new MacBook and then I never installed, like, I never copied the old MacBook. I just make it fresh, you know, like a clean, like format C, you know, Windows, like clean start. And I'm like, okay, I'll try VS Code and it's stuck, you know, but I don't really care. Like, it's not so important for me.

Dude, it was so good. You would install Windows and then after three or six months, it would start breaking and everything was like, it got slow. Then you would restart, go to DOS, format C, you would delete your hard drive and then install the Windows 95 again. It was so good times. And you would design everything like, now I'm going to install it properly.

Dude, it was so good. You would install Windows and then after three or six months, it would start breaking and everything was like, it got slow. Then you would restart, go to DOS, format C, you would delete your hard drive and then install the Windows 95 again. It was so good times. And you would design everything like, now I'm going to install it properly.

And they tell me secretly, like with hundreds of millions of dollars in funding and stuff. And they tell me like, next time, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it like you. Because it's more fun, it's more indie, it's more chill, it's more creative. They don't like this. They don't like to be manager, right? You become like a CEO, you become a manager.

And they tell me secretly, like with hundreds of millions of dollars in funding and stuff. And they tell me like, next time, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it like you. Because it's more fun, it's more indie, it's more chill, it's more creative. They don't like this. They don't like to be manager, right? You become like a CEO, you become a manager.

Now I'm going to design my desktop properly, you know, like.

Now I'm going to design my desktop properly, you know, like.

Yeah, you want to understand the new technological concepts and see if they can benefit you. It would be stupid not to even try.

Yeah, you want to understand the new technological concepts and see if they can benefit you. It would be stupid not to even try.

Yeah, but you just dive in. It's like NeuroFlex. Like, you keep your brain fresh, you know? Like, this kind of stuff. I got to do that more. Like, have you given React a chance? No, but I want to learn. I understand the basics, right? Yeah. I don't really know where to start.

Yeah, but you just dive in. It's like NeuroFlex. Like, you keep your brain fresh, you know? Like, this kind of stuff. I got to do that more. Like, have you given React a chance? No, but I want to learn. I understand the basics, right? Yeah. I don't really know where to start.

No, man. So I kind of did that. Like the stuff I do in jQuery is essentially, a lot of it is like, I start rebuilding whatever tech is already out there. Not based on that, but just an accident. Like I keep going long enough that I build the same. I start getting the same problems everybody else had and you start building the same frameworks kind of.

No, man. So I kind of did that. Like the stuff I do in jQuery is essentially, a lot of it is like, I start rebuilding whatever tech is already out there. Not based on that, but just an accident. Like I keep going long enough that I build the same. I start getting the same problems everybody else had and you start building the same frameworks kind of.

So essentially I use my own kind of framework of.

So essentially I use my own kind of framework of.

Kind of, yeah. With AJAX calls. But essentially it's the same thing. Look, I don't have the time. And this is, I think saying you don't have the time is like always a lie because you just don't prioritize it enough. My priority is still running the businesses and improving that and AI. I think learning AI is much more valuable now than learning a front-end framework. It's just more impact.

Kind of, yeah. With AJAX calls. But essentially it's the same thing. Look, I don't have the time. And this is, I think saying you don't have the time is like always a lie because you just don't prioritize it enough. My priority is still running the businesses and improving that and AI. I think learning AI is much more valuable now than learning a front-end framework. It's just more impact.

Yeah, you can learn a little bit every day, like a little bit of React or I think now like Next is very big. So learn a little bit of Next, you know, but I call them the military industrial complex. So if I, you need to know, you need to know it anyway, so.

Yeah, you can learn a little bit every day, like a little bit of React or I think now like Next is very big. So learn a little bit of Next, you know, but I call them the military industrial complex. So if I, you need to know, you need to know it anyway, so.

The frameworks are so complicated and it changes so fast. So it's like, where do I start, you know? And I guess it's the same thing when you're starting out making websites, like where do you start? Yeah, it's GPT-4, I guess. But yeah, it's just so dynamic. It changes so fast that I don't know if it would be a good idea for me to learn it, you know?

The frameworks are so complicated and it changes so fast. So it's like, where do I start, you know? And I guess it's the same thing when you're starting out making websites, like where do you start? Yeah, it's GPT-4, I guess. But yeah, it's just so dynamic. It changes so fast that I don't know if it would be a good idea for me to learn it, you know?

And I think a lot of people that start startups, when they become a CEO, they don't like that job actually, but they can't really exit it, you know? Yeah. but they like to do the groundwork, the coding. So I think that keeps you happy, like doing something creative.

And I think a lot of people that start startups, when they become a CEO, they don't like that job actually, but they can't really exit it, you know? Yeah. but they like to do the groundwork, the coding. So I think that keeps you happy, like doing something creative.

Maybe some combination of like Vue, Next with PHP, Laravel. Laravel is like a framework for PHP. I think that would be, it could benefit me, you know? Maybe Tailwind for CSS, like a styling engine. That stuff could probably save me time.

Maybe some combination of like Vue, Next with PHP, Laravel. Laravel is like a framework for PHP. I think that would be, it could benefit me, you know? Maybe Tailwind for CSS, like a styling engine. That stuff could probably save me time.

All I know is right now I would send it to GitHub and it sends it to my server. I don't know how to get JavaScript running. I have no clue.

All I know is right now I would send it to GitHub and it sends it to my server. I don't know how to get JavaScript running. I have no clue.

So I guess I need like a pass, like Verso, right? Or Heroku, those kind of platforms.

So I guess I need like a pass, like Verso, right? Or Heroku, those kind of platforms.

Like just- Ah, on the same page. Same exact- Oh, the same page? Kind of page. That's a cool product. Like- All these frameworks. Yeah. And you can see the differences.

Like just- Ah, on the same page. Same exact- Oh, the same page? Kind of page. That's a cool product. Like- All these frameworks. Yeah. And you can see the differences.

That's interesting.

That's interesting.

Some AI stuff, some LLM stuff.

Some AI stuff, some LLM stuff.

To replicate, for example, and then you have, yeah, that would be a very cool project.

To replicate, for example, and then you have, yeah, that would be a very cool project.

Because nobody benchmarks this. Nobody's benchmark developer happiness with frameworks. Nobody's benchmark the shipping time.

Because nobody benchmarks this. Nobody's benchmark developer happiness with frameworks. Nobody's benchmark the shipping time.

And this stuff confused me too. Like React now apparently has become backend. Yeah. Or something that used to be only frontend and you're forced to do now backend also. I don't know.

And this stuff confused me too. Like React now apparently has become backend. Yeah. Or something that used to be only frontend and you're forced to do now backend also. I don't know.

Like 60% of developers do it like this. Yeah. It's hard to figure that out. You know, that's the problem.

Like 60% of developers do it like this. Yeah. It's hard to figure that out. You know, that's the problem.

They usually know the dominant. They give answers that are the most probable, kind of.

They usually know the dominant. They give answers that are the most probable, kind of.

So that makes sense to ask an LLM. I think, honestly, maybe what would help is if you want to learn or I would want to learn a framework, hire somebody that already does it and just sit with them and make something together. I've never done that, but I've thought about it. There would be a very fast way to... take their knowledge, put it in my brain.

So that makes sense to ask an LLM. I think, honestly, maybe what would help is if you want to learn or I would want to learn a framework, hire somebody that already does it and just sit with them and make something together. I've never done that, but I've thought about it. There would be a very fast way to... take their knowledge, put it in my brain.

Yeah, but those people exist. You could find those people probably online.

Yeah, but those people exist. You could find those people probably online.

Like, if you want to learn AI, imagine you have Karpathy sitting next to you. Yeah. Like, he does his YouTube videos. It's amazing. He can teach it to, like, a five-year-old about how to make LLM. It's amazing. Like, imagine this guy sitting next to you and just teaching you, like, let's make LLM together. Like, holy shit, it would be amazing.

Like, if you want to learn AI, imagine you have Karpathy sitting next to you. Yeah. Like, he does his YouTube videos. It's amazing. He can teach it to, like, a five-year-old about how to make LLM. It's amazing. Like, imagine this guy sitting next to you and just teaching you, like, let's make LLM together. Like, holy shit, it would be amazing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But he's amazing because he's super technical and he's the only one who can explain stuff in a simple way, which shows his complete genius.

But he's amazing because he's super technical and he's the only one who can explain stuff in a simple way, which shows his complete genius.

Because if you can explain without jargon, you're like, Wow.

Because if you can explain without jargon, you're like, Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, what a guy.

Like, what a guy.

Exactly. Yeah. Actually, he probably is.

Exactly. Yeah. Actually, he probably is.

Yeah. So maybe learning a framework is a very bad idea for us, you know?

Yeah. So maybe learning a framework is a very bad idea for us, you know?

Yeah. Maybe you learn concepts, but you don't actually have to start using it for your life, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe you learn concepts, but you don't actually have to start using it for your life, right? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I switched to Mac in 2014 because it was because when I wanted to start traveling and my brother was like, dude, get a MacBook. It's like the standard now. I'm like, wow, I need to switch from Windows. And I had like three screens, you know, like Windows. I had this whole setup for music production. I had to sell everything. And then I had a MacBook.

Yeah, yeah. I switched to Mac in 2014 because it was because when I wanted to start traveling and my brother was like, dude, get a MacBook. It's like the standard now. I'm like, wow, I need to switch from Windows. And I had like three screens, you know, like Windows. I had this whole setup for music production. I had to sell everything. And then I had a MacBook.

And I remember opening up this MacBook box like, uh... And it was so beautiful. It was like this aluminum. And then I opened it. I removed the screen protector thing. It's so beautiful. And I didn't touch it for three days. I was just like looking at it, really. And I was still on the Windows computer. And then I went traveling with that.

And I remember opening up this MacBook box like, uh... And it was so beautiful. It was like this aluminum. And then I opened it. I removed the screen protector thing. It's so beautiful. And I didn't touch it for three days. I was just like looking at it, really. And I was still on the Windows computer. And then I went traveling with that.

And all my great things started when I switched to Mac, which sounds very dogmatic, right? What great things are you talking about? All the business started working out. I started traveling. I started building startups. I started making money. It all started when I switched to Mac.

And all my great things started when I switched to Mac, which sounds very dogmatic, right? What great things are you talking about? All the business started working out. I started traveling. I started building startups. I started making money. It all started when I switched to Mac.

I think the Finder is horrible, Mac. The what is horrible? The Finder. Oh, you don't know the Finder? So there's the Windows Explorer? Yeah.

I think the Finder is horrible, Mac. The what is horrible? The Finder. Oh, you don't know the Finder? So there's the Windows Explorer? Yeah.

Finder is strange, man. There's strange things. There's this bug where if you attach a photo on WhatsApp or Telegram, It just selects the whole folder and you almost accidentally can click enter and you send all your photos, all your files to this chat group. Happened to my girlfriend. She starts sending me photo, photo, photo, photo, photo. So Finder is very unusual, but it has Linux.

Finder is strange, man. There's strange things. There's this bug where if you attach a photo on WhatsApp or Telegram, It just selects the whole folder and you almost accidentally can click enter and you send all your photos, all your files to this chat group. Happened to my girlfriend. She starts sending me photo, photo, photo, photo, photo. So Finder is very unusual, but it has Linux.

Like the whole thing is like it's Unix based, right?

Like the whole thing is like it's Unix based, right?

Yeah, all the time. Like all the time. And the cool thing is you can run, I think it's like Unix, like Debian or whatever. You can run most Linux stuff on macOS, which makes it very good for development. Like I have my Nginx server. If I'm not lazy and set up my staging on my laptop, it's just the Nginx server, the same as I have on my cloud server, right? The same where the websites run.

Yeah, all the time. Like all the time. And the cool thing is you can run, I think it's like Unix, like Debian or whatever. You can run most Linux stuff on macOS, which makes it very good for development. Like I have my Nginx server. If I'm not lazy and set up my staging on my laptop, it's just the Nginx server, the same as I have on my cloud server, right? The same where the websites run.

But look at Elon. He's doing things a million times bigger than me, right? And would I want to do that? I don't know. You can't really choose these things, right? But I really respect that. I think Elon is very different from VC founders, right? VC is like software. There's a lot of bullshit in this world, I think. There's a lot of dodgy finance stuff happening there, I think.

But look at Elon. He's doing things a million times bigger than me, right? And would I want to do that? I don't know. You can't really choose these things, right? But I really respect that. I think Elon is very different from VC founders, right? VC is like software. There's a lot of bullshit in this world, I think. There's a lot of dodgy finance stuff happening there, I think.

And I can use almost everything, the same config files, configuration files. Okay. And it just works. And that makes Mac a very good platform for Linux stuff, I think. Yeah, yeah. Real Ubuntu is better, of course.

And I can use almost everything, the same config files, configuration files. Okay. And it just works. And that makes Mac a very good platform for Linux stuff, I think. Yeah, yeah. Real Ubuntu is better, of course.

I think it's just about the hardware. It's not so much about the software. The hardware is so well built, right? The keyboard.

I think it's just about the hardware. It's not so much about the software. The hardware is so well built, right? The keyboard.

That is pretty cool.

That is pretty cool.

No, any couch, like hotel couch also, like in the room, right? But I used to work like very ergonomically with like a standing desk and everything like perfect, like eye height, screen, blah, blah, blah. And I felt like, Man, this has to do with lifting too. I started getting RSI, like repetitive strain injury, like tingling stuff. And it would go all the way on my back.

No, any couch, like hotel couch also, like in the room, right? But I used to work like very ergonomically with like a standing desk and everything like perfect, like eye height, screen, blah, blah, blah. And I felt like, Man, this has to do with lifting too. I started getting RSI, like repetitive strain injury, like tingling stuff. And it would go all the way on my back.

And I was sitting in a coworker space, like 6 a.m., sun comes up, and I'm working and I'm coding. And I hear like a sound or something. So I do like, I look left and my neck gets stuck, like, and I'm like, wow, fuck. And, um... I'm like, what am I dying? You know? And I thought I'm probably dying. So I don't want to die in a cowork space. I'm going to go home and die in like peace and honor.

And I was sitting in a coworker space, like 6 a.m., sun comes up, and I'm working and I'm coding. And I hear like a sound or something. So I do like, I look left and my neck gets stuck, like, and I'm like, wow, fuck. And, um... I'm like, what am I dying? You know? And I thought I'm probably dying. So I don't want to die in a cowork space. I'm going to go home and die in like peace and honor.

So I closed my laptop and I put it in my backpack and I walked to the, to the street. I got on my motorbike, went home. And I lied down on like a pillow, like with my legs up and stuff. to get rid of this, like, because it was my whole back. And it was because I was working like this all the time. So I started getting like a laptop stand, everything ergonomically correct.

So I closed my laptop and I put it in my backpack and I walked to the, to the street. I got on my motorbike, went home. And I lied down on like a pillow, like with my legs up and stuff. to get rid of this, like, because it was my whole back. And it was because I was working like this all the time. So I started getting like a laptop stand, everything ergonomically correct.

But then I started lifting. And since then, like, it seems like everything gets straightened out. Your posture kind of, you're more straight. And I'd never have RSI anymore, reproductive injury. I never have tingling anymore, no pains and stuff. So then I started working on the sofa. And it's great. Like, it feels, you're close to the, I sit like this.

But then I started lifting. And since then, like, it seems like everything gets straightened out. Your posture kind of, you're more straight. And I'd never have RSI anymore, reproductive injury. I never have tingling anymore, no pains and stuff. So then I started working on the sofa. And it's great. Like, it feels, you're close to the, I sit like this.

And I never have concrete evidence about it, but your gut tells you something's going on with like... Companies getting sold to friends and VCs and then they do reciprocity and there's shady financial dealings. With Elon, that's not. He's just raising money from investors and he's actually building stuff. He needs the money to build stuff, you know, hardware stuff. And that I really respect.

And I never have concrete evidence about it, but your gut tells you something's going on with like... Companies getting sold to friends and VCs and then they do reciprocity and there's shady financial dealings. With Elon, that's not. He's just raising money from investors and he's actually building stuff. He needs the money to build stuff, you know, hardware stuff. And that I really respect.

Legs together and then a pillow and then a laptop. And then I work. Are you like leaning back? I'm kind of like. Together, like legs and then- Where's the mouse? No, so everything's trackpad on the Mac OS, on the MacBook. I used to have the Logitech MX mouse, the perfect economic mouse.

Legs together and then a pillow and then a laptop. And then I work. Are you like leaning back? I'm kind of like. Together, like legs and then- Where's the mouse? No, so everything's trackpad on the Mac OS, on the MacBook. I used to have the Logitech MX mouse, the perfect economic mouse.

One screen. And I used to have three screens. So I come from the, I know where people come from. I had all this stuff. But then I realized that having it all condensed in one laptop, it's a 16-inch MacBook, so it's quite big. But having it all in there is amazing because you're so close to the tools. You're so close to what's happening, you know? It's like working on a car or something.

One screen. And I used to have three screens. So I come from the, I know where people come from. I had all this stuff. But then I realized that having it all condensed in one laptop, it's a 16-inch MacBook, so it's quite big. But having it all in there is amazing because you're so close to the tools. You're so close to what's happening, you know? It's like working on a car or something.

It's like so... Like, man, if you have tree skin, you have to look here and look there. You get also neck injury, actually.

It's like so... Like, man, if you have tree skin, you have to look here and look there. You get also neck injury, actually.

Command-Tap to Chrome. I used to have this swipe screen, you know, you could do like different screen spaces. Yeah. I was like, ah, it's too difficult. Let's just put it on one screen on the MacBook and then. And you'd be productive that way. Yeah. Very productive.

Command-Tap to Chrome. I used to have this swipe screen, you know, you could do like different screen spaces. Yeah. I was like, ah, it's too difficult. Let's just put it on one screen on the MacBook and then. And you'd be productive that way. Yeah. Very productive.

More productive than before. Interesting.

More productive than before. Interesting.

No, man, I love it. I love seeing it with friends. They have amazing battle stations, right, it's called. It's amazing. I want it, but I don't want it, right? You like the constraints.

No, man, I love it. I love seeing it with friends. They have amazing battle stations, right, it's called. It's amazing. I want it, but I don't want it, right? You like the constraints.

Man, I'm suspicious of more, you know?

Man, I'm suspicious of more, you know?

You really need all this stuff. It might slow me down, actually.

You really need all this stuff. It might slow me down, actually.

Because you can defend more, right? You can defend, yeah, I'm a developer. I make money. I need to get more screens, right? I need to be more efficient. And then you read stuff about like mythical man month where like hiring more people slows down a software project that's famous. I think you can use that metaphor maybe for, you know, tools as well.

Because you can defend more, right? You can defend, yeah, I'm a developer. I make money. I need to get more screens, right? I need to be more efficient. And then you read stuff about like mythical man month where like hiring more people slows down a software project that's famous. I think you can use that metaphor maybe for, you know, tools as well.

And I see friends just with gear acquisition syndrome that buying so much stuff. but they're not that productive. They have the best, most beautiful battle stations, desktops, everything. They're not that productive. And it's also like kind of fun. Like it's all from my laptop in a backpack, right? It's kind of nomad, minimalist.

And I see friends just with gear acquisition syndrome that buying so much stuff. but they're not that productive. They have the best, most beautiful battle stations, desktops, everything. They're not that productive. And it's also like kind of fun. Like it's all from my laptop in a backpack, right? It's kind of nomad, minimalist.

Yes, so I go to sleep, like, 2 a.m. usually, something like that, and before 4 a.m. But my girlfriend would go to sleep midnight, so we did a compromise, like, 2 a.m., you know? So I wake up around 10, 11, no, more like 10. Shower, make coffee. I make coffee, like drip coffee, like the V60, you know, the filter. And I boil water and then I put the coffee in.

Yes, so I go to sleep, like, 2 a.m. usually, something like that, and before 4 a.m. But my girlfriend would go to sleep midnight, so we did a compromise, like, 2 a.m., you know? So I wake up around 10, 11, no, more like 10. Shower, make coffee. I make coffee, like drip coffee, like the V60, you know, the filter. And I boil water and then I put the coffee in.

And then chill a little bit with my girlfriend and then open laptop, start coding, check what's going on, like bugs or whatever.

And then chill a little bit with my girlfriend and then open laptop, start coding, check what's going on, like bugs or whatever.

So I used to need like really long stretches where I would do like all nighters and stuff to get shit done. But I've gotten trained to like have more interruptions where I can like... Because you have to. This is life. There's a lot of distractions. Your girlfriend asks stuff, people come over, whatever. So I'm very fast now. I can lock in and lock out quite fast.

So I used to need like really long stretches where I would do like all nighters and stuff to get shit done. But I've gotten trained to like have more interruptions where I can like... Because you have to. This is life. There's a lot of distractions. Your girlfriend asks stuff, people come over, whatever. So I'm very fast now. I can lock in and lock out quite fast.

And I heard people, developers or entrepreneurs with kids have the same thing. Before they're like, ah, I cannot work, but they get used to it. And they get really productive in like short time because they only have like 20 minutes and then shit goes crazy again. So another constraint, right? Yeah, it's funny. So I think that works for me. Yeah.

And I heard people, developers or entrepreneurs with kids have the same thing. Before they're like, ah, I cannot work, but they get used to it. And they get really productive in like short time because they only have like 20 minutes and then shit goes crazy again. So another constraint, right? Yeah, it's funny. So I think that works for me. Yeah.

And then, you know, cook food and stuff, like have lunch, steak and chicken. You eat a bunch of times a day. So you say coffee.

And then, you know, cook food and stuff, like have lunch, steak and chicken. You eat a bunch of times a day. So you say coffee.

What are you doing? Yeah, so a few hours later, cook foods. We get like locally stores like meat and stuff and vegetables and cook that. And then second coffee and then go some more. Maybe go outside for lunch. Like you can mix fun stuff, you know?

What are you doing? Yeah, so a few hours later, cook foods. We get like locally stores like meat and stuff and vegetables and cook that. And then second coffee and then go some more. Maybe go outside for lunch. Like you can mix fun stuff, you know?

You mean like the special days where like girlfriend leaves to like Paris or something and you're alone for a week at home, which is amazing. You can just code. It's like, and you stay up all night and eat chocolate. Yeah. Eat chocolate.

You mean like the special days where like girlfriend leaves to like Paris or something and you're alone for a week at home, which is amazing. You can just code. It's like, and you stay up all night and eat chocolate. Yeah. Eat chocolate.

So I was in Holland and I graduated university and I didn't want to like get a normal job. And I was making some money with YouTube because I had this music career and I uploaded my music to YouTube and YouTube started paying me like with AdSense, like $2,000 a month, $2,000 a month. And all my friends got like normal jobs and we stopped hanging out because people would

So I was in Holland and I graduated university and I didn't want to like get a normal job. And I was making some money with YouTube because I had this music career and I uploaded my music to YouTube and YouTube started paying me like with AdSense, like $2,000 a month, $2,000 a month. And all my friends got like normal jobs and we stopped hanging out because people would

Now shit goes crazy. Okay.

Now shit goes crazy. Okay.

Now we wake up like 1 p.m. at 2 p.m.

Now we wake up like 1 p.m. at 2 p.m.

Yeah, because I was coding. I was finding some new AI shit. And I was studying it. And it was amazing. And I cannot sleep because it's too important. We need to stay awake. We need to see all of this. We need to make something now. But that's the times I do make new stuff more. So I think... I have a friend. He actually books a hotel for a week to leave his... And he has a kid too.

Yeah, because I was coding. I was finding some new AI shit. And I was studying it. And it was amazing. And I cannot sleep because it's too important. We need to stay awake. We need to see all of this. We need to make something now. But that's the times I do make new stuff more. So I think... I have a friend. He actually books a hotel for a week to leave his... And he has a kid too.

And his girlfriend and his kid stay in the house. And he goes to another hotel. Sounds a little suspicious, right? Going to a hotel. But all he does is like writing or coding. He's a writer and he needs like this alone time, this silence. And I think for this flow state, it's true, you know? I'm better maintaining stuff when there's a lot of disruptions than like creating new stuff. I need this.

And his girlfriend and his kid stay in the house. And he goes to another hotel. Sounds a little suspicious, right? Going to a hotel. But all he does is like writing or coding. He's a writer and he needs like this alone time, this silence. And I think for this flow state, it's true, you know? I'm better maintaining stuff when there's a lot of disruptions than like creating new stuff. I need this.

And it's common. It's flow state. It's this uninterrupted period of time. Yeah. So, yeah, I wake up like 1, 2 p.m., you know, still coffee, shower. We still shower, you know. And then just code like nonstop. Maybe my friend comes over. Just some distraction. Yeah. Andre, he codes too. So, he comes over. We code together. We listen, you know.

And it's common. It's flow state. It's this uninterrupted period of time. Yeah. So, yeah, I wake up like 1, 2 p.m., you know, still coffee, shower. We still shower, you know. And then just code like nonstop. Maybe my friend comes over. Just some distraction. Yeah. Andre, he codes too. So, he comes over. We code together. We listen, you know.

It starts going back to like the Bali days, you know, like co-working days.

It starts going back to like the Bali days, you know, like co-working days.

Because it's nice to have like a vibe where you both sit together on the couch and coding on something and you actually, it's mostly silent or there's music, you know, and sometimes you ask something and, but generally like you're really locked in.

Because it's nice to have like a vibe where you both sit together on the couch and coding on something and you actually, it's mostly silent or there's music, you know, and sometimes you ask something and, but generally like you're really locked in.

I think like Techno, like YouTube Techno. There's a channel called H-O-R with a umlaut, like H-O, like double dot. It's Berlin Techno, whatever. It looks like they film it in like a toilet with like white tiles and stuff. And it's very cool. And they always have like very good, like kind of industrial, like kind of aggressive, you know, like.

I think like Techno, like YouTube Techno. There's a channel called H-O-R with a umlaut, like H-O, like double dot. It's Berlin Techno, whatever. It looks like they film it in like a toilet with like white tiles and stuff. And it's very cool. And they always have like very good, like kind of industrial, like kind of aggressive, you know, like.

Like I think distracting, man, jazz. Like I listen to coffee jazz with my girlfriend when I wake up and it's kind of like this piano starts getting annoying. It's like, it's too many tones. It's like too many things going on. This industrial techno is like, you know, this African like rain dances, like it's this transcendental trance.

Like I think distracting, man, jazz. Like I listen to coffee jazz with my girlfriend when I wake up and it's kind of like this piano starts getting annoying. It's like, it's too many tones. It's like too many things going on. This industrial techno is like, you know, this African like rain dances, like it's this transcendental trance.

Like in university, you hang out, you know, you chill at each other's houses, you go party. But when people get jobs, they only party like in the weekend and they don't hang anymore in the week because you need to be at the office. And I was like, this is not for me. I want to do something else. And I was starting getting this, like, I think it's like Saturn return, you know, when you turn 27.

Like in university, you hang out, you know, you chill at each other's houses, you go party. But when people get jobs, they only party like in the weekend and they don't hang anymore in the week because you need to be at the office. And I was like, this is not for me. I want to do something else. And I was starting getting this, like, I think it's like Saturn return, you know, when you turn 27.

And it's just normal brown. It's not like binaural.

And it's just normal brown. It's not like binaural.

Yeah, it's more diffused, more dampened.

Yeah, it's more diffused, more dampened.

Yeah, I can see that.

Yeah, I can see that.

Yeah, sharp brightness.

Yeah, sharp brightness.

Yeah, I can see that. And you use a headphone, right?

Yeah, I can see that. And you use a headphone, right?

In coworker space, I would just start talking too much.

In coworker space, I would just start talking too much.

Yeah, we would do, in the co-work space, we would do like a money pot, like a mug. So if you would work for 45 minutes, and then if you would say one, like per word, you would get a fine, which is like $1. So you'd put $1 to say, hey, what's up? So $3, you put in the mug. And then 15 minutes free time, like we can like party, whatever, and then 45 minutes again working. And that worked.

Yeah, we would do, in the co-work space, we would do like a money pot, like a mug. So if you would work for 45 minutes, and then if you would say one, like per word, you would get a fine, which is like $1. So you'd put $1 to say, hey, what's up? So $3, you put in the mug. And then 15 minutes free time, like we can like party, whatever, and then 45 minutes again working. And that worked.

But you need to shut people up where they, you know...

But you need to shut people up where they, you know...

It's like some concept where Saturn returns to the same place in the orbit that it was when you're born. I'm learning so many things. It's some astrology thing, you know?

It's like some concept where Saturn returns to the same place in the orbit that it was when you're born. I'm learning so many things. It's some astrology thing, you know?

Dude, I watched this video of this podcast. It was like this Buddhism podcast with people meditating. And they were interviewing each other or whatever, like a podcast. And suddenly, after a question, it's like, yeah, yeah. And they were just silent for like three minutes. And then they said, that was amazing. Yeah, that was amazing. I was like, wow, pretty cool, you know?

Dude, I watched this video of this podcast. It was like this Buddhism podcast with people meditating. And they were interviewing each other or whatever, like a podcast. And suddenly, after a question, it's like, yeah, yeah. And they were just silent for like three minutes. And then they said, that was amazing. Yeah, that was amazing. I was like, wow, pretty cool, you know?

Yeah, I don't know. That's so cool. I wish I was, I wish I could think more about, but I wanna like, I wanna show you my heart, you know? I wanna show you, go straight from my heart to my mouth to like saying the real thing. And the more I think, the more I start like filtering myself, right? And I wanna just throw it out there immediately.

Yeah, I don't know. That's so cool. I wish I was, I wish I could think more about, but I wanna like, I wanna show you my heart, you know? I wanna show you, go straight from my heart to my mouth to like saying the real thing. And the more I think, the more I start like filtering myself, right? And I wanna just throw it out there immediately.

Man, too much, right? Because normally like two cups of coffee. But on this perfect day, like we go to like four maybe. So we're starting to hit like the anxiety levels. So four cups is a lot for you. Well, I think my coffees are quite strong when I make them. It's like 20 grams of coffee powder in the V60. So... Like my friends call them like nuclear coffee, because it's quite heavy.

Man, too much, right? Because normally like two cups of coffee. But on this perfect day, like we go to like four maybe. So we're starting to hit like the anxiety levels. So four cups is a lot for you. Well, I think my coffees are quite strong when I make them. It's like 20 grams of coffee powder in the V60. So... Like my friends call them like nuclear coffee, because it's quite heavy.

It's quite strong. But it's nice to hit that anxiety level where you're like almost panic attack, but you're not there yet. So, but that's like, man, it's like super locked in just like- It's amazing. But I mean, there's a space for that in my life, but I think it's great for making new stuff. It's amazing.

It's quite strong. But it's nice to hit that anxiety level where you're like almost panic attack, but you're not there yet. So, but that's like, man, it's like super locked in just like- It's amazing. But I mean, there's a space for that in my life, but I think it's great for making new stuff. It's amazing.

Exactly, the summer of 27, man. And it was for me, like I started going crazy because I didn't really see like my future in Holland, buying a house, going living in the suburbs and stuff. So I flew out. I went to Asia, started digital nomading and did that for a year. And then that made me feel even worse, you know, because I was like alone in hotel rooms, like looking at the ceiling.

Exactly, the summer of 27, man. And it was for me, like I started going crazy because I didn't really see like my future in Holland, buying a house, going living in the suburbs and stuff. So I flew out. I went to Asia, started digital nomading and did that for a year. And then that made me feel even worse, you know, because I was like alone in hotel rooms, like looking at the ceiling.

Yes. I think girlfriends should let their guys go away for like two weeks. Every few, no, every year at least, you know, maybe every quarter, I don't know. And just sit and make some shits without, you know, they're amazing, but like no disturbances, just be alone. And then, you know, people can make something very, very amazing.

Yes. I think girlfriends should let their guys go away for like two weeks. Every few, no, every year at least, you know, maybe every quarter, I don't know. And just sit and make some shits without, you know, they're amazing, but like no disturbances, just be alone. And then, you know, people can make something very, very amazing.

Yeah, you can do a little bit of that.

Yeah, you can do a little bit of that.

And then a little bit of shipping, you know, do both.

And then a little bit of shipping, you know, do both.

But they need to allow us to go, you know? You need like a man cave, right?

But they need to allow us to go, you know? You need like a man cave, right?

Okay, cool.

Okay, cool.

I don't do naps in a day. I think it's power naps are good, but I don't really, I'm never tired anymore in the day. Man, also because of gym, I'm not tired. I'm tired when I want to, you know, when it's night, I need to sleep.

I don't do naps in a day. I think it's power naps are good, but I don't really, I'm never tired anymore in the day. Man, also because of gym, I'm not tired. I'm tired when I want to, you know, when it's night, I need to sleep.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Me too, yeah.

Me too, yeah.

I never understood the small meal thing. It didn't work for me.

I never understood the small meal thing. It didn't work for me.

It's a job board for remote jobs. Because back then, like 10 years ago, there was... job boards, but it was not really specifically remote job job boards. So I made one, I made like first on Nomad is I made like Nomad jobs, like a page and a lot of companies started hiring and they pay for job posts. So I spin it off to Remote OK.

It's a job board for remote jobs. Because back then, like 10 years ago, there was... job boards, but it was not really specifically remote job job boards. So I made one, I made like first on Nomad is I made like Nomad jobs, like a page and a lot of companies started hiring and they pay for job posts. So I spin it off to Remote OK.

And now it's like the number one or number two biggest remote job boards. And it's also fully automated and people just post a job and people apply. It has like profiles as well. Like it's kind of like LinkedIn for remote work.

And now it's like the number one or number two biggest remote job boards. And it's also fully automated and people just post a job and people apply. It has like profiles as well. Like it's kind of like LinkedIn for remote work.

Yeah, it's essentially like a simple job board. I discovered job boards are way more complicated than you think, but yeah, it's a job board for remote jobs. But the nice thing is you can charge a lot of money for job posts. Man, it's good money.

Yeah, it's essentially like a simple job board. I discovered job boards are way more complicated than you think, but yeah, it's a job board for remote jobs. But the nice thing is you can charge a lot of money for job posts. Man, it's good money.

B2B, you can charge like, you start with 299, but at the peak during when the Fed started printing money, like 2021, I was making like 140K a month with remote okay, with just job posts. And I started like adding crazy upsells, like rainbow-colored job posts. You can add your background name. It's just upsells, man. And you charge $1,000 for an upsell. It was crazy.

B2B, you can charge like, you start with 299, but at the peak during when the Fed started printing money, like 2021, I was making like 140K a month with remote okay, with just job posts. And I started like adding crazy upsells, like rainbow-colored job posts. You can add your background name. It's just upsells, man. And you charge $1,000 for an upsell. It was crazy.

And all these companies just upsell, upsell. Yeah, we want everything. Job posts would cost $3,000, $4,000. And I was like, this is good business. And then the feds stopped printing money and it all went down and it went down to like 10K a month from 140. Now it's back, I think it's like 40. It was good times, you know?

And all these companies just upsell, upsell. Yeah, we want everything. Job posts would cost $3,000, $4,000. And I was like, this is good business. And then the feds stopped printing money and it all went down and it went down to like 10K a month from 140. Now it's back, I think it's like 40. It was good times, you know?

Like, what am I doing with my life? Like, this is... Like, I was working on startups and stuff and YouTube, but it's like, what is the future here, you know? Like, is this... Is this something while my friends in Holland were doing really well and with a normal life, you know? So I was getting very depressed and like, I'm like an outcast, you know? My money was shrinking.

Like, what am I doing with my life? Like, this is... Like, I was working on startups and stuff and YouTube, but it's like, what is the future here, you know? Like, is this... Is this something while my friends in Holland were doing really well and with a normal life, you know? So I was getting very depressed and like, I'm like an outcast, you know? My money was shrinking.

10 years ago was like this trend in the blog. Back then blogs were so popular. It was like a blogosphere and it was like a hundred things challenge. What is that? A hundred things? I mean, it's ridiculous, but like you, you write down every object you have in your house and you count it, you make like a spreadsheet and you're like, okay, I have 500 things. You need to get it down to a hundred. Why?

10 years ago was like this trend in the blog. Back then blogs were so popular. It was like a blogosphere and it was like a hundred things challenge. What is that? A hundred things? I mean, it's ridiculous, but like you, you write down every object you have in your house and you count it, you make like a spreadsheet and you're like, okay, I have 500 things. You need to get it down to a hundred. Why?

You know, this is just a trend. So I did it. I started like selling stuff, started throwing away stuff. And I did like MDMA and XTC, like 2012 kind of, and, uh,

You know, this is just a trend. So I did it. I started like selling stuff, started throwing away stuff. And I did like MDMA and XTC, like 2012 kind of, and, uh,

after that trip i felt so different and i felt like i had to start throwing shit away like i swear yeah and i started throwing shit away and i felt that was like it was almost like the drug sending me to a path of like you need to throw your shit away you need to start you know go on a journey you need to get out of here and um and that's what the mdma did i think yeah how hard is it to get down to 100 items

after that trip i felt so different and i felt like i had to start throwing shit away like i swear yeah and i started throwing shit away and i felt that was like it was almost like the drug sending me to a path of like you need to throw your shit away you need to start you know go on a journey you need to get out of here and um and that's what the mdma did i think yeah how hard is it to get down to 100 items

Boy, you need to like sell your PC and stuff. You need to go on eBay. And then, man, going eBay selling all your stuff is very interesting because you discover society. Man, you meet the craziest people. You meet every range, from rich to poor. Everybody comes to your house to buy stuff. It's so funny, so interesting. I recommend everybody do this.

Boy, you need to like sell your PC and stuff. You need to go on eBay. And then, man, going eBay selling all your stuff is very interesting because you discover society. Man, you meet the craziest people. You meet every range, from rich to poor. Everybody comes to your house to buy stuff. It's so funny, so interesting. I recommend everybody do this.

Yeah. It was so... I didn't know... I was living in Amsterdam and I didn't know... I have my own subculture or whatever. And I discovered the Dutch people as they are from eBay. So I sold everything.

Yeah. It was so... I didn't know... I was living in Amsterdam and I didn't know... I have my own subculture or whatever. And I discovered the Dutch people as they are from eBay. So I sold everything.

So back then I was making music and we would make music videos with a Canon 5D camera. Back then everybody was making films and music videos. And we bought it with my friends and stuff. And... It was kind of like, I had to sell this thing too, because it was like, it was very expensive, like 6K or something. But it meant that selling this meant that we wouldn't make music videos together anymore.

So back then I was making music and we would make music videos with a Canon 5D camera. Back then everybody was making films and music videos. And we bought it with my friends and stuff. And... It was kind of like, I had to sell this thing too, because it was like, it was very expensive, like 6K or something. But it meant that selling this meant that we wouldn't make music videos together anymore.

I would leave Holland, this kind of like stuff we were working on would end. And I was kind of saying this music video stuff, we're not getting big, we're not getting famous in this or successful, we need to stop doing this. This music production also, it's not really working.

I would leave Holland, this kind of like stuff we were working on would end. And I was kind of saying this music video stuff, we're not getting big, we're not getting famous in this or successful, we need to stop doing this. This music production also, it's not really working.

And it was kind of like, felt very bad, you know, for my friends because we would work together on this and to sell this like camera that we'd make stuff with. It was a hard goodbye. It was just a camera, but it was like, it felt like, sorry guys, it doesn't work and I need to go, you know?

And it was kind of like, felt very bad, you know, for my friends because we would work together on this and to sell this like camera that we'd make stuff with. It was a hard goodbye. It was just a camera, but it was like, it felt like, sorry guys, it doesn't work and I need to go, you know?

Yeah. But it was like, it was like cutting your life. Like this shit ends now. Now we're going to do new stuff.

Yeah. But it was like, it was like cutting your life. Like this shit ends now. Now we're going to do new stuff.

I wasn't making money anymore a lot. I was making $500 a month or something. And I was, you know, looking at the ceiling thinking like, now I'm like 27, I'm a loser. And that's the moment when I started building like startups. And it was because my dad said, like, if you're depressed, you need to, you know, get sand, get a shovel, start shoveling, doing something. You can't just sit still.

I wasn't making money anymore a lot. I was making $500 a month or something. And I was, you know, looking at the ceiling thinking like, now I'm like 27, I'm a loser. And that's the moment when I started building like startups. And it was because my dad said, like, if you're depressed, you need to, you know, get sand, get a shovel, start shoveling, doing something. You can't just sit still.

Yeah, I think that's what I learned from it. Like, you learn that you can live with very little objects, very little stuff. But there's a counter to it. Like, you lean more on the stuff, on the services, right? Like, for example, you don't need a car, you use Uber, right? Or you don't need... Kitchen stuff, because you go to restaurants, you know, when you're traveling.

Yeah, I think that's what I learned from it. Like, you learn that you can live with very little objects, very little stuff. But there's a counter to it. Like, you lean more on the stuff, on the services, right? Like, for example, you don't need a car, you use Uber, right? Or you don't need... Kitchen stuff, because you go to restaurants, you know, when you're traveling.

So you lean more on other people's services, but you spend money on that as well. So that's good.

So you lean more on other people's services, but you spend money on that as well. So that's good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Man, I recommend if you're 18, you get out of high school, do this. Go travel. and build some internet stuff, whatever. Bring your laptop and it's an amazing experience. Five years ago, I was still going to university, but now I'm thinking like, no, maybe skip university. Just go first, like travel around a little bit, figure some stuff out. You can go back to university when you're 25.

Man, I recommend if you're 18, you get out of high school, do this. Go travel. and build some internet stuff, whatever. Bring your laptop and it's an amazing experience. Five years ago, I was still going to university, but now I'm thinking like, no, maybe skip university. Just go first, like travel around a little bit, figure some stuff out. You can go back to university when you're 25.

You can like, okay, now I learned, I've been successful in business. You have money at least. Now you can choose what you really want to study, you know? Because people at 18, they go study what is probably good for the job market, right? So it probably makes more sense, like, if you want that, go travel, build some businesses, and go back to university if you want.

You can like, okay, now I learned, I've been successful in business. You have money at least. Now you can choose what you really want to study, you know? Because people at 18, they go study what is probably good for the job market, right? So it probably makes more sense, like, if you want that, go travel, build some businesses, and go back to university if you want.

Oh, like the subcultures.

Oh, like the subcultures.

No, but man, if you're smart about it, you can stay safe. And I met so many weirdos from traveling. You meet, that's how travel works. If you really let loose, you meet the craziest people. And it's the most interesting people. And it's just, I cannot recommend it enough.

No, but man, if you're smart about it, you can stay safe. And I met so many weirdos from traveling. You meet, that's how travel works. If you really let loose, you meet the craziest people. And it's the most interesting people. And it's just, I cannot recommend it enough.

But I was very strange outcast as well. And I'm more adaptable to normie now. You learned it. Yeah. After 30s, you know, you're like, yeah.

But I was very strange outcast as well. And I'm more adaptable to normie now. You learned it. Yeah. After 30s, you know, you're like, yeah.

Yeah. Man, I feel so good. You start as an outcast, but the more you work on yourself, the less like shit you have. You kind of start becoming more normie because you become more chill with yourself and more happy. And it kind of makes you uninteresting, right? Yes.

Yeah. Man, I feel so good. You start as an outcast, but the more you work on yourself, the less like shit you have. You kind of start becoming more normie because you become more chill with yourself and more happy. And it kind of makes you uninteresting, right? Yes.

Which is kind of like an interesting way to deal with depression. It's not like, oh, let's talk about it. It's more like, let's go do something. And I started doing a project called 12 Startups in 12 Months, where every month I would make something, like a project, and I would launch it with Stripe so people could pay for it.

Which is kind of like an interesting way to deal with depression. It's not like, oh, let's talk about it. It's more like, let's go do something. And I started doing a project called 12 Startups in 12 Months, where every month I would make something, like a project, and I would launch it with Stripe so people could pay for it.

Like the most, the crazy people are always the most interesting. If you've solved your internal struggles and your therapy and stuff, and you kind of become kind of, you know, it's not so interesting anymore, maybe.

Like the most, the crazy people are always the most interesting. If you've solved your internal struggles and your therapy and stuff, and you kind of become kind of, you know, it's not so interesting anymore, maybe.

So the backpack, MacBook, toothbrush, some clothes, underwear, socks. You don't need a lot of clothes in Asia because it's hot. So you just wear swim pants, swim shorts. You walk around, flip-flops. So very basic. T-shirt. And I would go to the laundromat and wash my stuff. And I think it was like 50 things or something. Yeah.

So the backpack, MacBook, toothbrush, some clothes, underwear, socks. You don't need a lot of clothes in Asia because it's hot. So you just wear swim pants, swim shorts. You walk around, flip-flops. So very basic. T-shirt. And I would go to the laundromat and wash my stuff. And I think it was like 50 things or something. Yeah.

It gives me happiness for like two weeks. I'm very quickly adapting to like a baseline, hedonistic adaptation, very fast. But man, if you look at the studies, most people like, Like get a new car, six months, you know, get a new house, six months. You just feel the same. She's like, wow, should I buy all this stuff? Studying hedonistic adaptation made me think a lot about minimalism.

It gives me happiness for like two weeks. I'm very quickly adapting to like a baseline, hedonistic adaptation, very fast. But man, if you look at the studies, most people like, Like get a new car, six months, you know, get a new house, six months. You just feel the same. She's like, wow, should I buy all this stuff? Studying hedonistic adaptation made me think a lot about minimalism.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, like people around you, like people you love, nice food, nice experiences, meaningful work, those things, exercise, you know, those things make you happy, I think, make me happy for sure.

Yeah, like people around you, like people you love, nice food, nice experiences, meaningful work, those things, exercise, you know, those things make you happy, I think, make me happy for sure.

Yeah, so when I wrote that, I was getting so many DMs, as you probably have a million times more. And people were getting angry that I wasn't responding. And I was like, okay, I'll just close down these DMs completely. Then people got angry that I closed my DMs down, that I'm not like...

Yeah, so when I wrote that, I was getting so many DMs, as you probably have a million times more. And people were getting angry that I wasn't responding. And I was like, okay, I'll just close down these DMs completely. Then people got angry that I closed my DMs down, that I'm not like...

man of the people you know it's like you've changed man yeah you've changed you guys you know like this and i'm like i'll explain why i just don't have the time in a day to you know answer every question and also people send you like crazy shit man like stalkers and like people write like their whole life story for you and then ask you advice like man i have no idea i'm not a therapist i don't know i know this stuff

man of the people you know it's like you've changed man yeah you've changed you guys you know like this and i'm like i'll explain why i just don't have the time in a day to you know answer every question and also people send you like crazy shit man like stalkers and like people write like their whole life story for you and then ask you advice like man i have no idea i'm not a therapist i don't know i know this stuff

Yeah, add a Stripe check. I'm not sponsored by Stripe, but add a Stripe checkout button.

Yeah, add a Stripe check. I'm not sponsored by Stripe, but add a Stripe checkout button.

Yeah. I have this problem that I want to try to help people and also like, oh, let's make startups and whatever. And I've learned over the years that generally for me, and it sounds maybe bad, right? But like I helped my friend Andre, for example, he came up to me in a coworker space. That's how I met him. He said, I want to learn to code. I want to do startups. How do I do it?

Yeah. I have this problem that I want to try to help people and also like, oh, let's make startups and whatever. And I've learned over the years that generally for me, and it sounds maybe bad, right? But like I helped my friend Andre, for example, he came up to me in a coworker space. That's how I met him. He said, I want to learn to code. I want to do startups. How do I do it?

I said, okay, let's go. Install NGINX. Let's start coding. And he has this self energy that he actually... he doesn't need to be pushed. He just goes and he just goes and he asks questions and he doesn't ask too many questions. He just goes and learns it. And now he has a company and makes a lot of money, has his own startups.

I said, okay, let's go. Install NGINX. Let's start coding. And he has this self energy that he actually... he doesn't need to be pushed. He just goes and he just goes and he asks questions and he doesn't ask too many questions. He just goes and learns it. And now he has a company and makes a lot of money, has his own startups.

So, and the people that I had to kind of like, that asked me for help, but then I gave help and then they started debating it, you know? Do you have that? Like people ask you advice and they go against you, say, no, you're wrong. Because I'm like, okay, bro, I don't want to debate. You asked me for advice, right? And the people who need this push generally It doesn't happen.

So, and the people that I had to kind of like, that asked me for help, but then I gave help and then they started debating it, you know? Do you have that? Like people ask you advice and they go against you, say, no, you're wrong. Because I'm like, okay, bro, I don't want to debate. You asked me for advice, right? And the people who need this push generally It doesn't happen.

You need to have this energy for yourself.

You need to have this energy for yourself.

100%, I think so, yeah.

100%, I think so, yeah.

Yeah, so I think it's procrastination. I think sending messages to people is a lot of procrastination. Like, Lex, how do you become a successful podcaster? Yeah. Bro, just, you know, start. Like, just go. Yeah. And, uh. Just go. I would never ask you how to be a successful podcaster. Like I would just start it and then I would copy your methods, you know?

Yeah, so I think it's procrastination. I think sending messages to people is a lot of procrastination. Like, Lex, how do you become a successful podcaster? Yeah. Bro, just, you know, start. Like, just go. Yeah. And, uh. Just go. I would never ask you how to be a successful podcaster. Like I would just start it and then I would copy your methods, you know?

Yeah. And they're really nice. The CEO, Patrick, is really nice.

Yeah. And they're really nice. The CEO, Patrick, is really nice.

I would say, ah, this guy has a black background. We probably need this as well. Yeah. Try it.

I would say, ah, this guy has a black background. We probably need this as well. Yeah. Try it.

Try it.

Try it.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, you imitate and then you put your own spin to it, you know? And that's like creative process. That's like literally the whole, everybody always builds on the previous work.

Yeah, you imitate and then you put your own spin to it, you know? And that's like creative process. That's like literally the whole, everybody always builds on the previous work.

Man, it's not this specific, but I had to make like a... You know, an average is only... Firefighting.

Man, it's not this specific, but I had to make like a... You know, an average is only... Firefighting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, a lot of it is wasted, yeah.

Yeah, a lot of it is wasted, yeah.

We need to fly to an island, you know, make a man cave island where we can just, everybody can just code for a week, you know, and just get shit done, make new projects. Yeah. Yeah. But man, they called me psychopath for this because it says like one hours of sex, hugs, love, you know? Man, I had to write something, you know? And they were like, oh, this guy's psychopath.

We need to fly to an island, you know, make a man cave island where we can just, everybody can just code for a week, you know, and just get shit done, make new projects. Yeah. Yeah. But man, they called me psychopath for this because it says like one hours of sex, hugs, love, you know? Man, I had to write something, you know? And they were like, oh, this guy's psychopath.

He plans his sex in a specific hour. Like, bro, I don't. You have a counter for hugs? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Click, click, click.

He plans his sex in a specific hour. Like, bro, I don't. You have a counter for hugs? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Click, click, click.

Dude, I know this. Because when I was nine years old, I was making websites also. Yeah. And I tried to open a merchant account. There was like before Stripe, you would have like, I think it was called WorldPay. So I had to like fill out all these forms. And then I had to fax them to America from Holland with my dad's fax. And my dad had to, it wasn't my dad's name. And he had to sign for this.

Dude, I know this. Because when I was nine years old, I was making websites also. Yeah. And I tried to open a merchant account. There was like before Stripe, you would have like, I think it was called WorldPay. So I had to like fill out all these forms. And then I had to fax them to America from Holland with my dad's fax. And my dad had to, it wasn't my dad's name. And he had to sign for this.

How many times you see your parents? Jesus, like, man.

How many times you see your parents? Jesus, like, man.

It's scary, man.

It's scary, man.

Do you believe that friends just slowly disappear from your life? Your friend group evolves, right? There's a problem with Facebook. You get all these old friends from school, like when you were 10 years old, back when Facebook started. You don't really, you would add friend them and then you're like, why are we in touch again? Just keep the memories there. It's a different life now.

Do you believe that friends just slowly disappear from your life? Your friend group evolves, right? There's a problem with Facebook. You get all these old friends from school, like when you were 10 years old, back when Facebook started. You don't really, you would add friend them and then you're like, why are we in touch again? Just keep the memories there. It's a different life now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that- Yeah, that's deep.

So that- Yeah, that's deep.

It's not recently. I think it's just a gradual thing, right? Like it keeps going. And I also don't know why it keeps going.

It's not recently. I think it's just a gradual thing, right? Like it keeps going. And I also don't know why it keeps going.

Man, I think the opposite, right? Because the people I follow are interesting because they say whatever they think and they ship or whatever. It's so boring that people start tweeting only about one topic.

Man, I think the opposite, right? Because the people I follow are interesting because they say whatever they think and they ship or whatever. It's so boring that people start tweeting only about one topic.

I don't know anything about their personal life. I want to know about their personal life. Like you do podcasts, you ask about life stuff or personality. That's the most interesting part of like business or sports. Like what's behind the athlete, right? Behind the entrepreneur. That's interesting stuff.

I don't know anything about their personal life. I want to know about their personal life. Like you do podcasts, you ask about life stuff or personality. That's the most interesting part of like business or sports. Like what's behind the athlete, right? Behind the entrepreneur. That's interesting stuff.

Yeah, like you shared that, you know, like I shared a tweet that went too far, but like we were cleaning the toilet because the toilet was clogged, you know? But like, it's just real stuff because Jensen Huang, the NVIDIA guy, he says he started cleaning toilets, you know? That was cool. You tweeted something about the Denny's thing. I forget. Yeah, it was recent.

Yeah, like you shared that, you know, like I shared a tweet that went too far, but like we were cleaning the toilet because the toilet was clogged, you know? But like, it's just real stuff because Jensen Huang, the NVIDIA guy, he says he started cleaning toilets, you know? That was cool. You tweeted something about the Denny's thing. I forget. Yeah, it was recent.

NVIDIA was started in a Denny's diner table. And you made it somehow profound. Yeah, this one, this one.

NVIDIA was started in a Denny's diner table. And you made it somehow profound. Yeah, this one, this one.

The home office.

The home office.

The island. Yeah. You need a space to congregate. Man, and I found history on this. So 400 years ago in the coffee houses of Europe- Like the scientific revolution, the enlightenment happened because they would go to coffee houses, they would sit there, they would drink coffee and they would work.

The island. Yeah. You need a space to congregate. Man, and I found history on this. So 400 years ago in the coffee houses of Europe- Like the scientific revolution, the enlightenment happened because they would go to coffee houses, they would sit there, they would drink coffee and they would work.

And he started reading these terms and conditions. It was just like, he's liable for like a hundred million in damages. And he's like, I don't want to sign this. I'm like, dad, come on. I need a merchant account. I need to make money on the internet, you know? And he signed it and we faxed it to America. And I had a merchant account. But then nobody paid for anything.

And he started reading these terms and conditions. It was just like, he's liable for like a hundred million in damages. And he's like, I don't want to sign this. I'm like, dad, come on. I need a merchant account. I need to make money on the internet, you know? And he signed it and we faxed it to America. And I had a merchant account. But then nobody paid for anything.

They would work, they would write and they would do debates and they would organize marine routes, right? They would do all the stuff in coffee houses in Europe, in France, in Austria, in UK, in Holland. So we would always be going to, we were always going to cafes to work and to have serendipitous conversations with other people and start businesses and stuff.

They would work, they would write and they would do debates and they would organize marine routes, right? They would do all the stuff in coffee houses in Europe, in France, in Austria, in UK, in Holland. So we would always be going to, we were always going to cafes to work and to have serendipitous conversations with other people and start businesses and stuff.

And when I, like you asked me to come on here and we flew to America. And the first thing I realized was that I've been to America before, but we were in this cafe and like, there's a lot of laptops, everybody's working on something. And I made, I took this photo and, And then when you're in Europe, like large parts of Europe now, you cannot use a laptop anymore.

And when I, like you asked me to come on here and we flew to America. And the first thing I realized was that I've been to America before, but we were in this cafe and like, there's a lot of laptops, everybody's working on something. And I made, I took this photo and, And then when you're in Europe, like large parts of Europe now, you cannot use a laptop anymore.

It's like no laptop, which I understand.

It's like no laptop, which I understand.

For a lot of people. A lot of people have very small homes and co-working spaces are kind of boring. They're not very private. They're not serendipitous. They're kind of boring. Cafes are amazing because random people can come in and ask you, what are you working on? And not just laptops, people are also having conversations like they did 400 years ago, debates or whatever. Things are happening.

For a lot of people. A lot of people have very small homes and co-working spaces are kind of boring. They're not very private. They're not serendipitous. They're kind of boring. Cafes are amazing because random people can come in and ask you, what are you working on? And not just laptops, people are also having conversations like they did 400 years ago, debates or whatever. Things are happening.

And man, I understand the aesthetics of it. It's like, oh, startup bro shipping his bullshit startup, you know? Mm-hmm. But there's something more there. Like there's people actually making stuff, making new companies that the society benefits from. Like we're benefiting from Nvidia. I think the US GDP for sure is benefiting from Nvidia. European GDP could benefit if we build more companies.

And man, I understand the aesthetics of it. It's like, oh, startup bro shipping his bullshit startup, you know? Mm-hmm. But there's something more there. Like there's people actually making stuff, making new companies that the society benefits from. Like we're benefiting from Nvidia. I think the US GDP for sure is benefiting from Nvidia. European GDP could benefit if we build more companies.

And I feel in Europe, there's this vibe and this, you have to connect things, but not allowing laptops in cafes is kind of like part of the vibe, which is like, yeah, we're not really here to work. We're here to like enjoy life. I agree with this. Anthony Bourdain, like this tweet was quoted with Anthony Bourdain photo with him with cigarettes and a coffee in France.

And I feel in Europe, there's this vibe and this, you have to connect things, but not allowing laptops in cafes is kind of like part of the vibe, which is like, yeah, we're not really here to work. We're here to like enjoy life. I agree with this. Anthony Bourdain, like this tweet was quoted with Anthony Bourdain photo with him with cigarettes and a coffee in France.

And he said, this is what cafes are for. I agree.

And he said, this is what cafes are for. I agree.

Yeah, and it's awesome. Not everybody wins. 99% of people will be bullshit, but 1% will win. But they're working their ass off. Yeah, and they're doing something. And you need to pass this startup bro, like, oh, it's startup on a level. No, it's not. It's people making cool shit. And this will benefit you because this will create jobs for your country and your region. And I think in Europe...

Yeah, and it's awesome. Not everybody wins. 99% of people will be bullshit, but 1% will win. But they're working their ass off. Yeah, and they're doing something. And you need to pass this startup bro, like, oh, it's startup on a level. No, it's not. It's people making cool shit. And this will benefit you because this will create jobs for your country and your region. And I think in Europe...

That's a big problem. We have a very anti-entrepreneurial mindset.

That's a big problem. We have a very anti-entrepreneurial mindset.

But it's much easier now. You can sign up, you add some codes and...

But it's much easier now. You can sign up, you add some codes and...

That's very few.

That's very few.

It was for Twitter to mute, to share the mute list. Yeah. Mute words.

It was for Twitter to mute, to share the mute list. Yeah. Mute words.

Airline list still runs, but it doesn't make money. Airline list like compares the safety of airlines because I was nervous to fly. So I was like, let's collect all the data on crashes for all the airplanes. Yeah.

Airline list still runs, but it doesn't make money. Airline list like compares the safety of airlines because I was nervous to fly. So I was like, let's collect all the data on crashes for all the airplanes. Yeah.

Yeah, man.

Yeah, man.

You can go to the highlights tab. It has all the good shit.

You can go to the highlights tab. It has all the good shit.

This was Dubai.

This was Dubai.

And if people copy this photo now and they change the screenshot, it becomes like a meme. Of course, you know.

And if people copy this photo now and they change the screenshot, it becomes like a meme. Of course, you know.

This is how Dubai looks. It's insane.

This is how Dubai looks. It's insane.

Yeah, the stories behind, for sure. So this is about the European economy where like...

Yeah, the stories behind, for sure. So this is about the European economy where like...

Yeah, so the median founding of companies in US is something like 1960. And the median, the top companies, right? And the median in Europe is like 1900 or something. So it's, here, 1913 and 1963. So there's a 50-year difference.

Yeah, so the median founding of companies in US is something like 1960. And the median, the top companies, right? And the median in Europe is like 1900 or something. So it's, here, 1913 and 1963. So there's a 50-year difference.

But Europe used to be entrepreneurial. Like there was companies founded in 1800, 1850, 1900. It flipped like around 1950 where America took the lead. And I guess my point is like, I hope that Europe gets back to... Because I'm European. I hope that Europe gets back to being an entrepreneurial culture where they build big companies again. Because right now the...

But Europe used to be entrepreneurial. Like there was companies founded in 1800, 1850, 1900. It flipped like around 1950 where America took the lead. And I guess my point is like, I hope that Europe gets back to... Because I'm European. I hope that Europe gets back to being an entrepreneurial culture where they build big companies again. Because right now the...

All the old dinosaur companies control the economies. They're lobbying with the government. Europe is also, they're infiltrated with the government where they create so much regulation. I think it's called regulatory capture, right? Where it's very hard for a newcomer to join and to enter an industry because there's too much regulation.

All the old dinosaur companies control the economies. They're lobbying with the government. Europe is also, they're infiltrated with the government where they create so much regulation. I think it's called regulatory capture, right? Where it's very hard for a newcomer to join and to enter an industry because there's too much regulation.

So actually regulation is very good for big companies because they can follow it. I can't follow it, right? If I want to start an AI startup in Europe now, I cannot because there's an AI regulation that makes it very complicated for me. I probably need to get notaries involved. I need to get certificates, licenses. Whereas in America, I can just open my laptop.

So actually regulation is very good for big companies because they can follow it. I can't follow it, right? If I want to start an AI startup in Europe now, I cannot because there's an AI regulation that makes it very complicated for me. I probably need to get notaries involved. I need to get certificates, licenses. Whereas in America, I can just open my laptop.

I can start an AI startup right now, mostly.

I can start an AI startup right now, mostly.

I could, I could code a little bit cause I did the YouTube channel and I made a website for, I would make websites for like the YouTube channel. It was called Panda Mix Show. And it was like these electronic music mixes, like dubstep or drum and bass or techno or house.

I could, I could code a little bit cause I did the YouTube channel and I made a website for, I would make websites for like the YouTube channel. It was called Panda Mix Show. And it was like these electronic music mixes, like dubstep or drum and bass or techno or house.

Man, you had Beth Jesus on. I love Beth Jesus and he's amazing. And I think IAC is very needed to similarly create a more positive outlook on the future. Because people have been very pessimistic about society, about the future of society, climate change, all this stuff. EOC is like, it's a positive outlook on the future. It's like technology can make us, you know, we spend more energy.

Man, you had Beth Jesus on. I love Beth Jesus and he's amazing. And I think IAC is very needed to similarly create a more positive outlook on the future. Because people have been very pessimistic about society, about the future of society, climate change, all this stuff. EOC is like, it's a positive outlook on the future. It's like technology can make us, you know, we spend more energy.

We should find ways to, of course, get like clean energy, but we need to spend more energy to make cooler stuff and, you know, go into space and build more technology that can improve society. And we shouldn't shy away from technology. Technology can be the answer for many things.

We should find ways to, of course, get like clean energy, but we need to spend more energy to make cooler stuff and, you know, go into space and build more technology that can improve society. And we shouldn't shy away from technology. Technology can be the answer for many things.

Yeah, it goes together. Look at China. China is now at the stage of like America, what, like 1900 or something? They're building rapidly, like insane. And obviously China has massive problems, but that comes with the whole thing. That comes with America in its beginning, all the massive problems, right? But...

Yeah, it goes together. Look at China. China is now at the stage of like America, what, like 1900 or something? They're building rapidly, like insane. And obviously China has massive problems, but that comes with the whole thing. That comes with America in its beginning, all the massive problems, right? But...

I think it's very, very dangerous for a country or region like Europe to, you, you, you get to this point where you're kind of complacent, you're kind of comfortable. And then, you know, you can either go this or you can go this way, right? You're, you're from here, you go like this and then you can go this or this. I think you should go this way and, uh, yeah, go off. And, and, uh,

I think it's very, very dangerous for a country or region like Europe to, you, you, you get to this point where you're kind of complacent, you're kind of comfortable. And then, you know, you can either go this or you can go this way, right? You're, you're from here, you go like this and then you can go this or this. I think you should go this way and, uh, yeah, go off. And, and, uh,

I think the problem is the mind culture. So EOC, I made EUOC, which is like the European kind of version. I made like hoodies and stuff. So a lot of people wear like this Make Europe Great Again hat. I made it red first, but it became too like Trump. So now it's more like European blue, you know, Make Europe Great Again.

I think the problem is the mind culture. So EOC, I made EUOC, which is like the European kind of version. I made like hoodies and stuff. So a lot of people wear like this Make Europe Great Again hat. I made it red first, but it became too like Trump. So now it's more like European blue, you know, Make Europe Great Again.

Man, I would listen to, like, nobody. Just do what you think is good and follow your heart, right? Like, everybody peer-presses you into doing stuff you don't want to do. And, like, they tell you, like, parents or family or society and tell you. But, like, try your own thing, you know? Because it probably, it might work out. You can steer the ship, you know?

Man, I would listen to, like, nobody. Just do what you think is good and follow your heart, right? Like, everybody peer-presses you into doing stuff you don't want to do. And, like, they tell you, like, parents or family or society and tell you. But, like, try your own thing, you know? Because it probably, it might work out. You can steer the ship, you know?

Yeah, my album, my CD album was using Flash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sold my CD, yeah.

Yeah, my album, my CD album was using Flash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sold my CD, yeah.

It probably doesn't work out immediately. You probably go into very bad times, like I did as well, relatively, right? Yeah. But in the end, if you're smart about it, you can make things work and you can create your own little life of things as you did, you know, as I did. And I think that should be more promoted, like do your own thing.

It probably doesn't work out immediately. You probably go into very bad times, like I did as well, relatively, right? Yeah. But in the end, if you're smart about it, you can make things work and you can create your own little life of things as you did, you know, as I did. And I think that should be more promoted, like do your own thing.

There's space in economy and in society for do your own thing, you know? It's like, you know, like little villages, everybody would sell, I would sell bread, you would sell meat. Everybody can do their own little thing. You don't need to, you know, be a normie, as you say, you can be what you really want to be, you know?

There's space in economy and in society for do your own thing, you know? It's like, you know, like little villages, everybody would sell, I would sell bread, you would sell meat. Everybody can do their own little thing. You don't need to, you know, be a normie, as you say, you can be what you really want to be, you know?

Yeah, you got to go all out. Because if you do, if you half-ass it, you cannot succeed. You need to go lean into the outcast stuff, lean into the being different and just doing whatever it is that you want to do, right?

Yeah, you got to go all out. Because if you do, if you half-ass it, you cannot succeed. You need to go lean into the outcast stuff, lean into the being different and just doing whatever it is that you want to do, right?

Yeah, whole-ass it, yeah.

Yeah, whole-ass it, yeah.

Thank you, man.

Thank you, man.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It was in Flash. Back then, that was the JavaScript, you know? The JavaScript, yeah.

It was in Flash. Back then, that was the JavaScript, you know? The JavaScript, yeah.

And Steve Jobs killed it.

And Steve Jobs killed it.

Steve Jobs said, Flash sucks, stop using it. And everyone's like, okay.

Steve Jobs said, Flash sucks, stop using it. And everyone's like, okay.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Well, it was a closed platform, I think.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Well, it was a closed platform, I think.

But this is ironic because Apple, you know, they're not very open. Right. But back then, Steve was like, this is closed. We should not use it. And it has security problems, I think, which sounded like a cop-out. Like, I just wanted to say that to make it look kind of bad. But Flash was cool. Yeah.

But this is ironic because Apple, you know, they're not very open. Right. But back then, Steve was like, this is closed. We should not use it. And it has security problems, I think, which sounded like a cop-out. Like, I just wanted to say that to make it look kind of bad. But Flash was cool. Yeah.

You had, like, the, you know, Lex homepage. Everyone was centered. And you had, like, Peter's homepage. And on the construction GIF, which was, like, a guy with a helmet. Right. And the lights, it was amazing.

You had, like, the, you know, Lex homepage. Everyone was centered. And you had, like, Peter's homepage. And on the construction GIF, which was, like, a guy with a helmet. Right. And the lights, it was amazing.

I think that was where the merchant accounts people would use for. People would make money a lot. Only money made on the internet then was porn, or a lot of it.

I think that was where the merchant accounts people would use for. People would make money a lot. Only money made on the internet then was porn, or a lot of it.

Yeah, but I had to learn the actual coding. So this was good. It was a good idea to like every month launch a startup so I could learn the codes, learn basic stuff. But it was still very scrappy because I didn't have time to, which was on purpose. I didn't have time to spend a lot of, I had a month to do something. So I couldn't spend more than a month and I was pretty strict about that.

Yeah, but I had to learn the actual coding. So this was good. It was a good idea to like every month launch a startup so I could learn the codes, learn basic stuff. But it was still very scrappy because I didn't have time to, which was on purpose. I didn't have time to spend a lot of, I had a month to do something. So I couldn't spend more than a month and I was pretty strict about that.

And I published it as a blog post so people, I think I put it on Hacker News and people would check like, kind of like, oh, did you actually, you know? I felt like accountability because I put it public that I actually had to do it.

And I published it as a blog post so people, I think I put it on Hacker News and people would check like, kind of like, oh, did you actually, you know? I felt like accountability because I put it public that I actually had to do it.

I think it was Play My Inbox. Because back then, my friends, we would send, we would send like cool, it was before Spotify, I think. We would send like, 2013, we would send music to each other, like YouTube links. Like, this is a cool song. This is a cool song. And it was these giant email threads on Gmail. And they were like unnavigatable.

I think it was Play My Inbox. Because back then, my friends, we would send, we would send like cool, it was before Spotify, I think. We would send like, 2013, we would send music to each other, like YouTube links. Like, this is a cool song. This is a cool song. And it was these giant email threads on Gmail. And they were like unnavigatable.

So I made an app that would log into your Gmail, get the emails and find the ones with YouTube links, and then make like, kind of like a gallery of your songs. Like essentially Spotify. And my friends loved it.

So I made an app that would log into your Gmail, get the emails and find the ones with YouTube links, and then make like, kind of like a gallery of your songs. Like essentially Spotify. And my friends loved it.

No, it uses like POP, like POP or IMAP, you know, it would actually check your email. So that like privacy concerns, because it would get all your emails to find YouTube links, but then I wouldn't save anything. But that was fun. It was like, and that first product already would get like pressed. Like it went on, I think like... some tech media and stuff. And I was like, that's cool.

No, it uses like POP, like POP or IMAP, you know, it would actually check your email. So that like privacy concerns, because it would get all your emails to find YouTube links, but then I wouldn't save anything. But that was fun. It was like, and that first product already would get like pressed. Like it went on, I think like... some tech media and stuff. And I was like, that's cool.

It didn't make money. There was no payment button, but it was actually people using it. I think tens of thousands of people used it.

It didn't make money. There was no payment button, but it was actually people using it. I think tens of thousands of people used it.

Yeah, you could tell Gmail, like, don't give me all the emails. Just give me the ones with YouTube links, you know, or something like that.

Yeah, you could tell Gmail, like, don't give me all the emails. Just give me the ones with YouTube links, you know, or something like that.

I think it's hard to get people to pay for these like extensions and plugins, you know, because it's not like a real app. So it's not like people don't value it. People value it. Oh, and a plugin should be free. You know, when I want to use a plugin in Google Sheets or something, I'm not going to pay for it.

I think it's hard to get people to pay for these like extensions and plugins, you know, because it's not like a real app. So it's not like people don't value it. People value it. Oh, and a plugin should be free. You know, when I want to use a plugin in Google Sheets or something, I'm not going to pay for it.

It should be free, which is, but if you go to a website and you actually, okay, I need this product. I'm going to pay for this because it's a real product. So even though it's the same code in the back, it's a plugin, you know.

It should be free, which is, but if you go to a website and you actually, okay, I need this product. I'm going to pay for this because it's a real product. So even though it's the same code in the back, it's a plugin, you know.

Yeah, but who pays for Chrome extensions, right? Like barely anybody. So that's not a good place to make money probably.

Yeah, but who pays for Chrome extensions, right? Like barely anybody. So that's not a good place to make money probably.

Like Chrome extensions should be an extension for your startup. You know, you have a product. Oh, we also have a Chrome extension.

Like Chrome extensions should be an extension for your startup. You know, you have a product. Oh, we also have a Chrome extension.

It's like GPTs, you know?

It's like GPTs, you know?

Like these chat GPTs, they're going to charge money for it now. You get a rev share, I think, for an opening eye. I made a lot of them also.

Like these chat GPTs, they're going to charge money for it now. You get a rev share, I think, for an opening eye. I made a lot of them also.

I think the hard part is like figuring out what you shouldn't add, right? What you shouldn't build because you don't have time. So you need to build a landing page. Well, you need to make, you know, you need to build the product actually because it needs to be something they pay for. Do you need to build a login system? Like maybe no, you know, like maybe you can build some scrappy login system.

I think the hard part is like figuring out what you shouldn't add, right? What you shouldn't build because you don't have time. So you need to build a landing page. Well, you need to make, you know, you need to build the product actually because it needs to be something they pay for. Do you need to build a login system? Like maybe no, you know, like maybe you can build some scrappy login system.

Like for Photoi, you sign up, you pay with a Stripe checkout and you get a login link. And when I started, there was only a login link with a hash and that's just a static link. So it's very easy to log in. It's not so safe, you know, what if you leak the link? And now I have real Google login, but that took like a year. So keeping it very scrappy is very important to...

Like for Photoi, you sign up, you pay with a Stripe checkout and you get a login link. And when I started, there was only a login link with a hash and that's just a static link. So it's very easy to log in. It's not so safe, you know, what if you leak the link? And now I have real Google login, but that took like a year. So keeping it very scrappy is very important to...

Because you don't have time, you know? You need to focus on what you can build fast. So money, Stripe, build a product, build a landing page. You need to think about how are people going to find this. So are you going to put it on Reddit or something? How are you going to put it on Reddit without being looked at as a spammer, right? Like if you say, hey, this is my new startup, you should use it.

Because you don't have time, you know? You need to focus on what you can build fast. So money, Stripe, build a product, build a landing page. You need to think about how are people going to find this. So are you going to put it on Reddit or something? How are you going to put it on Reddit without being looked at as a spammer, right? Like if you say, hey, this is my new startup, you should use it.

No, nobody gets deleted, you know? Maybe if you find a problem that a lot of people on Reddit already have on subreddits, you know? And you solve that problem and say... Some people, I made this thing that might solve your problem and maybe it's free for now. That could work. But you need to be very, narrow it down what you're building.

No, nobody gets deleted, you know? Maybe if you find a problem that a lot of people on Reddit already have on subreddits, you know? And you solve that problem and say... Some people, I made this thing that might solve your problem and maybe it's free for now. That could work. But you need to be very, narrow it down what you're building.

Okay. So I think it's normal if you're young, that you feel like a loser.

Okay. So I think it's normal if you're young, that you feel like a loser.

Yeah. I think this is the peak. And so I would not kill yourselves. It's very important. Just, get through it, you know? But because you have nothing, you have probably no money, you have no business, you have no job. Like Jeremy Peterson said this, I saw it somewhere. Like the reason people are depressed because they have nothing.

Yeah. I think this is the peak. And so I would not kill yourselves. It's very important. Just, get through it, you know? But because you have nothing, you have probably no money, you have no business, you have no job. Like Jeremy Peterson said this, I saw it somewhere. Like the reason people are depressed because they have nothing.

They don't have a girlfriend, they don't have a boyfriend, they don't have... You need stuff, you need like a family, you need things around you, you need to build a life for yourself. If you don't build a life for yourself, you'll be depressed.

They don't have a girlfriend, they don't have a boyfriend, they don't have... You need stuff, you need like a family, you need things around you, you need to build a life for yourself. If you don't build a life for yourself, you'll be depressed.

So if you're alone in Asia, in a hostel, looking at the ceiling and you don't have any money coming in, you don't have a girlfriend, you don't... Of course you're depressed. It's logic. But back then, if you're in the moment, you think there's not logic, there's something wrong with me, you know?

So if you're alone in Asia, in a hostel, looking at the ceiling and you don't have any money coming in, you don't have a girlfriend, you don't... Of course you're depressed. It's logic. But back then, if you're in the moment, you think there's not logic, there's something wrong with me, you know?

And also, I think I started going... I started getting like anxiety and I think I started going a little bit crazy where... I think travel can make you insane. And I know this because I know that there's like digital nomads that they kill themselves. And I haven't checked like the comparison with like baseline people.

And also, I think I started going... I started getting like anxiety and I think I started going a little bit crazy where... I think travel can make you insane. And I know this because I know that there's like digital nomads that they kill themselves. And I haven't checked like the comparison with like baseline people.

But I have a hunch, especially in the beginning when it was a very new thing, like 10 years ago, that it can be very psychologically taxing. Yeah. You're alone a lot. Back then when you travel alone, there was no other digital nomads back then a lot. So you're in a strange culture. You look different than everybody. Like you're in, I was in Asia.

But I have a hunch, especially in the beginning when it was a very new thing, like 10 years ago, that it can be very psychologically taxing. Yeah. You're alone a lot. Back then when you travel alone, there was no other digital nomads back then a lot. So you're in a strange culture. You look different than everybody. Like you're in, I was in Asia.

Like everybody's really nice in Thailand, but you're not part of the culture. You're traveling around. You're hopping from city to city. You don't have a home anymore. you feel disrooted.

Like everybody's really nice in Thailand, but you're not part of the culture. You're traveling around. You're hopping from city to city. You don't have a home anymore. you feel disrooted.

Yes, exactly. But people treat you like Thailand. People are so nice, but you still feel like outcast. And, and then I think that the digital nomads I met then were all kind of like, it was like shady business, you know, but they were like vigilantes because it was a new thing. And like one guy was selling illegal drugs.

Yes, exactly. But people treat you like Thailand. People are so nice, but you still feel like outcast. And, and then I think that the digital nomads I met then were all kind of like, it was like shady business, you know, but they were like vigilantes because it was a new thing. And like one guy was selling illegal drugs.

It was an American guy was selling illegal drugs via UPS to Americans, you know, on this website, they were like a lot of drop shippers doing shady stuff. Um, There's a lot of shady things going on there. And they didn't look like very balanced people. They didn't look like people I wanted to hang with, you know? So I also felt outcast from other foreigners in Thailand, other digital nomads.

It was an American guy was selling illegal drugs via UPS to Americans, you know, on this website, they were like a lot of drop shippers doing shady stuff. Um, There's a lot of shady things going on there. And they didn't look like very balanced people. They didn't look like people I wanted to hang with, you know? So I also felt outcast from other foreigners in Thailand, other digital nomads.

And I was like, man, I made a big mistake. And then I went back to Holland and then I got even more depressed.

And I was like, man, I made a big mistake. And then I went back to Holland and then I got even more depressed.

I struck upon it on accident because I was like, I'm going to graduate university and then I'm going to, I need to get out of here. I'll fly to Asia because I've been before in Asia. I studied in Korea in 2009, like study exchange. So I was like, Asia is easy. Thailand's easy. And I'll just go there, figure things out. And it's cheap. It's very cheap.

I struck upon it on accident because I was like, I'm going to graduate university and then I'm going to, I need to get out of here. I'll fly to Asia because I've been before in Asia. I studied in Korea in 2009, like study exchange. So I was like, Asia is easy. Thailand's easy. And I'll just go there, figure things out. And it's cheap. It's very cheap.

Chiang Mai, I would live like for $150 per month rent for like a private room. Pretty good. So I struggled on this on accident. I was like, okay, there's other people on laptops working on their startup or working remotely. Back then nobody worked remotely, but they worked on their businesses, right? And they would live in like Colombia or Thailand or Vietnam or Bali.

Chiang Mai, I would live like for $150 per month rent for like a private room. Pretty good. So I struggled on this on accident. I was like, okay, there's other people on laptops working on their startup or working remotely. Back then nobody worked remotely, but they worked on their businesses, right? And they would live in like Colombia or Thailand or Vietnam or Bali.

They would live kind of like in more cheap places. And it looked like a very adventurous life. Like you travel around, you build your business. There's no pressure from like your home society, right? Like you're American. So you get pressure from American society telling you kind of what to do. Like you need to buy a house or you need to do this stuff. I had this in Holland too.

They would live kind of like in more cheap places. And it looked like a very adventurous life. Like you travel around, you build your business. There's no pressure from like your home society, right? Like you're American. So you get pressure from American society telling you kind of what to do. Like you need to buy a house or you need to do this stuff. I had this in Holland too.

And you can get away from this pressure. You can kind of feel like you're free. You're kind of... There's nobody telling you what to do. But that's also why you start feeling like you go crazy because you are free. You're disattached from anything and anybody. You're disattached from your culture. You're disattached from the culture you're probably in because you're staying very short.

And you can get away from this pressure. You can kind of feel like you're free. You're kind of... There's nobody telling you what to do. But that's also why you start feeling like you go crazy because you are free. You're disattached from anything and anybody. You're disattached from your culture. You're disattached from the culture you're probably in because you're staying very short.

I think Franz Kafka said, I'm free, therefore I'm lost. Man, that's so true. Yeah, that's exactly the point. And yeah, freedom is like, it's the definition of no constraints, right? Like anything is possible. You can go anywhere. And everybody's like, oh, that must be super nice. You know, like freedom, you must be very happy. And it's the opposite. Like, I don't think that makes you happy.

I think Franz Kafka said, I'm free, therefore I'm lost. Man, that's so true. Yeah, that's exactly the point. And yeah, freedom is like, it's the definition of no constraints, right? Like anything is possible. You can go anywhere. And everybody's like, oh, that must be super nice. You know, like freedom, you must be very happy. And it's the opposite. Like, I don't think that makes you happy.

I think constraints probably make you happy. And that's a big lesson I learned then.

I think constraints probably make you happy. And that's a big lesson I learned then.

For me, you know, because I was more like a developer. I wanted to make startups kind of. And it was like drugs being shipped to America, like diet pills and stuff, like non-FDA approved stuff, you know? And they would like laugh. There was no like, they would sit with beers and they would laugh about like all the dodgy shit kind of they're doing, you know?

For me, you know, because I was more like a developer. I wanted to make startups kind of. And it was like drugs being shipped to America, like diet pills and stuff, like non-FDA approved stuff, you know? And they would like laugh. There was no like, they would sit with beers and they would laugh about like all the dodgy shit kind of they're doing, you know?

That kind of vibe, you know, like kind of sleazy e-comm vibe. I'm not saying all e-comm is sleazy, you know, but you know this vibe.

That kind of vibe, you know, like kind of sleazy e-comm vibe. I'm not saying all e-comm is sleazy, you know, but you know this vibe.

You know the guys with sports cars in Dubai, these people, you know? Yes. E-comm, like, oh, bro, you got to drop shit.

You know the guys with sports cars in Dubai, these people, you know? Yes. E-comm, like, oh, bro, you got to drop shit.

And you'll make a hundred million a month. Those people, it was this shit. And I was like, this is not my people.

And you'll make a hundred million a month. Those people, it was this shit. And I was like, this is not my people.

No, I don't want to judge. I know that for me, it wasn't my world. It wasn't my subculture. I wanted to make cool shit. But they also think their cool shit is cool. But I wanted to make real startups. And that was my thing. I would read Hacker News, like Y Combinator. And they were making cool stuff. So I wanted to make cool stuff.

No, I don't want to judge. I know that for me, it wasn't my world. It wasn't my subculture. I wanted to make cool shit. But they also think their cool shit is cool. But I wanted to make real startups. And that was my thing. I would read Hacker News, like Y Combinator. And they were making cool stuff. So I wanted to make cool stuff.

It's very romantic, man.

It's very romantic, man.

No, I think it was amazing. Like, we would work. Like, I would make friends and we would work until, you know, 6 a.m. in Bali, for example, with, like, with Andre, my best friend, who is still my best friend, and with another friend. And we would work until, like, the morning when the sun came up. Because at night, the coworker space was silent, you know, there was nobody else. And...

No, I think it was amazing. Like, we would work. Like, I would make friends and we would work until, you know, 6 a.m. in Bali, for example, with, like, with Andre, my best friend, who is still my best friend, and with another friend. And we would work until, like, the morning when the sun came up. Because at night, the coworker space was silent, you know, there was nobody else. And...

Because there was like six people coming or we didn't know. Sometimes people would come in. Did you say 3-0-30? Yeah.

Because there was like six people coming or we didn't know. Sometimes people would come in. Did you say 3-0-30? Yeah.

And we would drink like four per person or something, you know? Man, it's Bali. I don't know if they were powerful lattes, you know, but they were lattes. And we would put it in a plastic bag and then we'd drive there and all the coffee was like falling, you know, everywhere. And then we'd go in the coffee stand and have these coffees here and we'd work all night. We'd play like techno music and...

And we would drink like four per person or something, you know? Man, it's Bali. I don't know if they were powerful lattes, you know, but they were lattes. And we would put it in a plastic bag and then we'd drive there and all the coffee was like falling, you know, everywhere. And then we'd go in the coffee stand and have these coffees here and we'd work all night. We'd play like techno music and...

everybody would just work in there. Like this was literally like business people. They would work in their startup and we'd all try and make something. And then the sun would come up and the morning people, you know, the yoga girls and yoga guys would come in, you know, after the yoga class at six and they say, hey, good morning.

everybody would just work in there. Like this was literally like business people. They would work in their startup and we'd all try and make something. And then the sun would come up and the morning people, you know, the yoga girls and yoga guys would come in, you know, after the yoga class at six and they say, hey, good morning.

And we're like, we look like this, you know, and we're like, what's up, how are you doing? And we didn't know how bad we looked, you know, but it was very bad. And then we'd go home, sleep in like a hostel or a hotel and do the same thing. And again, and again, and again. Yeah. And it was this lock-in mode, you know, like working. And that was very fun.

And we're like, we look like this, you know, and we're like, what's up, how are you doing? And we didn't know how bad we looked, you know, but it was very bad. And then we'd go home, sleep in like a hostel or a hotel and do the same thing. And again, and again, and again. Yeah. And it was this lock-in mode, you know, like working. And that was very fun.

More like... Like industrial.

More like... Like industrial.

It also depends what kind of work you do, right? Like if you're writing, you probably don't want drum and bass music. I think for codes, like industrial techno, this kind of stuff, kind of fast, it works well because you really get like locked in and combined with caffeine, you know, you go deep, you know?

It also depends what kind of work you do, right? Like if you're writing, you probably don't want drum and bass music. I think for codes, like industrial techno, this kind of stuff, kind of fast, it works well because you really get like locked in and combined with caffeine, you know, you go deep, you know?

And I think you balance on this edge of anxiety because this caffeine is also hitting your anxiety. And you want to be on the edge of anxiety with this techno running. Sometimes it gets too much. Like stop the techno, stop the music. It's like... But those are good memories, you know? And also like travel memories. Like you go from city to city. Yeah.

And I think you balance on this edge of anxiety because this caffeine is also hitting your anxiety. And you want to be on the edge of anxiety with this techno running. Sometimes it gets too much. Like stop the techno, stop the music. It's like... But those are good memories, you know? And also like travel memories. Like you go from city to city. Yeah.

And it feels like, it's kind of like jet set life. Like it feels very beautiful. Like you're seeing a lot of cool cities.

And it feels like, it's kind of like jet set life. Like it feels very beautiful. Like you're seeing a lot of cool cities.

I think still like Bangkok is the best place. And back in Chiang Mai, I think Thailand is very special. Like I've been to the other place, like I've been to Vietnam and I've been to South America and stuff. I still think Thailand wins in how nice people are, how easy of a life people have there.

I think still like Bangkok is the best place. And back in Chiang Mai, I think Thailand is very special. Like I've been to the other place, like I've been to Vietnam and I've been to South America and stuff. I still think Thailand wins in how nice people are, how easy of a life people have there.

Yeah, well, Bangkok is getting expensive now, but Chiang Mai is still cheap. I think when you're starting out, it's a great place. Man, the air quality sucks. It's a big problem. So, and it's quite hot, but that's a very cool place.

Yeah, well, Bangkok is getting expensive now, but Chiang Mai is still cheap. I think when you're starting out, it's a great place. Man, the air quality sucks. It's a big problem. So, and it's quite hot, but that's a very cool place.

I love Brazil also. My girlfriend is Brazilian, but I do love, not just because of that, but I like Brazil more. the problem still is the safety issue. It's like in America, it's localized. It's hard for Europeans to understand safety is localized to specific areas. So if you go to the right areas, it's amazing. Brazil is amazing. If you go to the wrong areas, maybe you die. Right? Yeah.

I love Brazil also. My girlfriend is Brazilian, but I do love, not just because of that, but I like Brazil more. the problem still is the safety issue. It's like in America, it's localized. It's hard for Europeans to understand safety is localized to specific areas. So if you go to the right areas, it's amazing. Brazil is amazing. If you go to the wrong areas, maybe you die. Right? Yeah.

But it's not true in Europe. In Europe, it's much more average.

But it's not true in Europe. In Europe, it's much more average.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Man, yeah.

Man, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you don't feel scared?

But you don't feel scared?

I have friends, like there's a lot of friends that are exactly like this. Like they go to like the kind of broken areas, you know? Like they like this reality. They like authenticity more. They don't like luxury. They don't like... Oh yeah, I hate luxury. Yeah, it's very European of you. Like...

I have friends, like there's a lot of friends that are exactly like this. Like they go to like the kind of broken areas, you know? Like they like this reality. They like authenticity more. They don't like luxury. They don't like... Oh yeah, I hate luxury. Yeah, it's very European of you. Like...

Man, anywhere. I think I wrote it in some blog posts and like, It was a common thing when you would wake up and this was like, because I have this website. I started a website about this digital nomads like called nomadlist.com and there was a community. So it was like 30,000 other digital nomads because I was feeling lonely. So I built this website and I stopped feeling lonely.

Man, anywhere. I think I wrote it in some blog posts and like, It was a common thing when you would wake up and this was like, because I have this website. I started a website about this digital nomads like called nomadlist.com and there was a community. So it was like 30,000 other digital nomads because I was feeling lonely. So I built this website and I stopped feeling lonely.

Like I started organizing meetups and making friends. And it was very common that people would say they would wake up and they would forget where they are. Yeah. like for the first half minute. And I had to look outside, like, where am I? Which country? Which sounds really like privileged, but it's more like funny. Like you literally don't know where you are because you're so disrooted.

Like I started organizing meetups and making friends. And it was very common that people would say they would wake up and they would forget where they are. Yeah. like for the first half minute. And I had to look outside, like, where am I? Which country? Which sounds really like privileged, but it's more like funny. Like you literally don't know where you are because you're so disrooted.

But there's something, man, it's like Anthony Bourdain, you know? There's something pure about this kind of vagabond travel thing, you know? Like it's behind me, I think. I don't like, now I travel with my girlfriend, right? It's very different, but it is a romantic, like memories of this kind of like, vagabond, individualistic, solo life.

But there's something, man, it's like Anthony Bourdain, you know? There's something pure about this kind of vagabond travel thing, you know? Like it's behind me, I think. I don't like, now I travel with my girlfriend, right? It's very different, but it is a romantic, like memories of this kind of like, vagabond, individualistic, solo life.

But the thing is, it didn't make me happy, but it was very cool, but it didn't make me happy, right? It made me anxious.

But the thing is, it didn't make me happy, but it was very cool, but it didn't make me happy, right? It made me anxious.

Yeah, you have like the novelty effect, like you're in a new place, like here things are possible. You know, you don't get bored yet, and And that's why people get addicted to travel, you know?

Yeah, you have like the novelty effect, like you're in a new place, like here things are possible. You know, you don't get bored yet, and And that's why people get addicted to travel, you know?

So I think you need to be able to spot problems. So for example, you can go in your daily life, like when you wake up and you're like, what is stuff that I'm really annoyed with? That's like in my daily life that doesn't function well. And that's a problem that you can see, okay, maybe that's something I can write code about, you know, code for, and it will make my life easier.

So I think you need to be able to spot problems. So for example, you can go in your daily life, like when you wake up and you're like, what is stuff that I'm really annoyed with? That's like in my daily life that doesn't function well. And that's a problem that you can see, okay, maybe that's something I can write code about, you know, code for, and it will make my life easier.

So I would say make like a list of all these problems you have and like idea to solve it. And I see which one is like viable. You can actually do something and then start building it.

So I would say make like a list of all these problems you have and like idea to solve it. And I see which one is like viable. You can actually do something and then start building it.

Yeah, but that's where travel comes in. because when I started traveling, I started seeing stuff in other countries that you didn't have in Europe, for example, or America, even like, if you go to Asia, uh, Like, dude, especially 10 years ago, nobody knew about this. Like WeChat, all these apps that they already had before we had them. These everything apps, right?

Yeah, but that's where travel comes in. because when I started traveling, I started seeing stuff in other countries that you didn't have in Europe, for example, or America, even like, if you go to Asia, uh, Like, dude, especially 10 years ago, nobody knew about this. Like WeChat, all these apps that they already had before we had them. These everything apps, right?

Like now Elon's trying to make X this everything app, like WeChat, same thing. Like in Indonesia or Thailand, you have one app that you can order food with. You can order groceries. You can order massage. You can order car mechanic. Anything you can think of is in the app. And that stuff, for example, you know, that's called like arbitrage.

Like now Elon's trying to make X this everything app, like WeChat, same thing. Like in Indonesia or Thailand, you have one app that you can order food with. You can order groceries. You can order massage. You can order car mechanic. Anything you can think of is in the app. And that stuff, for example, you know, that's called like arbitrage.

You can go back to your country and build that same app for your country, for example. So you start seeing problems. You start seeing solutions that other countries already, other people already did in the rest of the world. And also traveling in general just gives you more problems because travel is uncomfortable, you know. Airports are horrible. Airplanes are not comfortable either.

You can go back to your country and build that same app for your country, for example. So you start seeing problems. You start seeing solutions that other countries already, other people already did in the rest of the world. And also traveling in general just gives you more problems because travel is uncomfortable, you know. Airports are horrible. Airplanes are not comfortable either.

There's a lot of problems you start seeing. Just getting out of your house, you know.

There's a lot of problems you start seeing. Just getting out of your house, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I used to have like a... Because when I wasn't making money, I was trying to like make this list of ideas to see like, so I need to build... I was thinking statistically already, like I need to build all these things and one of these will work out probably, you know? So I need to have a lot of things to try. And I did that.

Yeah, I used to have like a... Because when I wasn't making money, I was trying to like make this list of ideas to see like, so I need to build... I was thinking statistically already, like I need to build all these things and one of these will work out probably, you know? So I need to have a lot of things to try. And I did that.

Right now, I think like, because I already have money, I can do more things based on technology. So for example, AI... when I found out about when stable diffusion came or chat GBT and stuff, all these things were like, I didn't start working with them because I had a problem.

Right now, I think like, because I already have money, I can do more things based on technology. So for example, AI... when I found out about when stable diffusion came or chat GBT and stuff, all these things were like, I didn't start working with them because I had a problem.

I had no problems, but I was very curious about technology and I was like playing with it and figuring out like, first just playing with it and then you find something like, okay, this generates, stable fusion generates houses very beautiful and interiors, you know?

I had no problems, but I was very curious about technology and I was like playing with it and figuring out like, first just playing with it and then you find something like, okay, this generates, stable fusion generates houses very beautiful and interiors, you know?

Yeah, but that's very risky because that's the famous like solution trying to find a problem. Yeah. And usually it doesn't work. And that's very common with startup founders. I think they have tech, but actually people don't need the tech, right?

Yeah, but that's very risky because that's the famous like solution trying to find a problem. Yeah. And usually it doesn't work. And that's very common with startup founders. I think they have tech, but actually people don't need the tech, right?

Yeah. So it's like fire your photographer. The idea is like you don't need a photographer anymore. You can train yourself as an AI model and you can take as many photos as you want anywhere in any clothes with facial expressions like happy or sad or poses, all this stuff.

Yeah. So it's like fire your photographer. The idea is like you don't need a photographer anymore. You can train yourself as an AI model and you can take as many photos as you want anywhere in any clothes with facial expressions like happy or sad or poses, all this stuff.

So on the left, you have the prompt, the box. So you can write like, so model is your model. It's Lex Friedman. So you can write like model as a blah, blah, blah, whatever you want. Then press the button and it will take photos. It will take like one minute.

So on the left, you have the prompt, the box. So you can write like, so model is your model. It's Lex Friedman. So you can write like model as a blah, blah, blah, whatever you want. Then press the button and it will take photos. It will take like one minute.

Replicate. Replicate.com.

Replicate. Replicate.com.

Yeah. So I went to Google images, typed in Lex Friedman. I added like 10 or 20 images. You can open them in the gallery and you can use your cursor as to. Yeah. So some don't look like you. So the hit and miss rate is like, I don't know, let's say like 50-50 or something.

Yeah. So I went to Google images, typed in Lex Friedman. I added like 10 or 20 images. You can open them in the gallery and you can use your cursor as to. Yeah. So some don't look like you. So the hit and miss rate is like, I don't know, let's say like 50-50 or something.

It was very bad in the beginning. It was so bad, but still people signed up to it, you know.

It was very bad in the beginning. It was so bad, but still people signed up to it, you know.

Man, but that's the problem with these models. No, we need to talk about this, because the models in Stable Diffusion, so the photorealistic models that are fine-tuned, they were all trained on porn in the beginning. And there was a guy called Hassan. So I was trying to figure out how to do photorealistic AI photos, and Stable Diffusion by itself is not doing that well. The faces look all mangled.

Man, but that's the problem with these models. No, we need to talk about this, because the models in Stable Diffusion, so the photorealistic models that are fine-tuned, they were all trained on porn in the beginning. And there was a guy called Hassan. So I was trying to figure out how to do photorealistic AI photos, and Stable Diffusion by itself is not doing that well. The faces look all mangled.

And it doesn't have enough resolution or something to do that well. But I started seeing these base models, these fine-tuned models, and people would train them on porn, and I would try them, and they would be very photorealistic. They would have bodies that actually made sense, like body anatomy.

And it doesn't have enough resolution or something to do that well. But I started seeing these base models, these fine-tuned models, and people would train them on porn, and I would try them, and they would be very photorealistic. They would have bodies that actually made sense, like body anatomy.

But if you look at the photorealistic models that people use now still, there's still core of porn there, like of naked people. So I need to prompt out the naked, and everyone needs to do this with AI startups, with imaging. You need to prompt out the naked stuff. You need to put a, you know, naked... You have to keep reminding the model you need to put clothes on the thing.

But if you look at the photorealistic models that people use now still, there's still core of porn there, like of naked people. So I need to prompt out the naked, and everyone needs to do this with AI startups, with imaging. You need to prompt out the naked stuff. You need to put a, you know, naked... You have to keep reminding the model you need to put clothes on the thing.

Yeah, don't put naked because it's very risky. I have Google Vision that checks every photo before it's shown to the user to like check for NSFW.

Yeah, don't put naked because it's very risky. I have Google Vision that checks every photo before it's shown to the user to like check for NSFW.

Because you get the journalists get very angry if they, you know... There was a journalist, I think, that got angry that used this and was like, oh, it showed like a nipple because Google Vision didn't detect it. So there's like these kind of problems you need to deal with, you know? That's what I'm talking about. This is with cats. But look at the cat face. It's also kind of mangled.

Because you get the journalists get very angry if they, you know... There was a journalist, I think, that got angry that used this and was like, oh, it showed like a nipple because Google Vision didn't detect it. So there's like these kind of problems you need to deal with, you know? That's what I'm talking about. This is with cats. But look at the cat face. It's also kind of mangled.

You can zoom in on the cat if you want. Yeah.

You can zoom in on the cat if you want. Yeah.

It's a very sad cut.

It's a very sad cut.

But this, man, but this is the problem with AI startups because they all act like it's perfect. Like this is groundbreaking and, but it's not perfect. It's like really bad, you know, half the time.

But this, man, but this is the problem with AI startups because they all act like it's perfect. Like this is groundbreaking and, but it's not perfect. It's like really bad, you know, half the time.

Yeah. So you remove this stuff and you write like whatever you want, like in Thailand or something or in Tokyo.

Yeah. So you remove this stuff and you write like whatever you want, like in Thailand or something or in Tokyo.

Yeah. And then... You can say like at night with neon lights, like you can add more detail.

Yeah. And then... You can say like at night with neon lights, like you can add more detail.

As a cowboy.

As a cowboy.

Man, I hope not. This is the end of my career.

Man, I hope not. This is the end of my career.

Yeah, let's see.

Yeah, let's see.

It's all jQuery. Do I still use jQuery?

It's all jQuery. Do I still use jQuery?

It's PHP and jQuery. And SQLite.

It's PHP and jQuery. And SQLite.

It's because of WordPress, right? Because the blogs are- Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true. I'm seeing a revival now. People are getting sick of frameworks. Like all the JavaScript frameworks are so like, what do you call it, like wieldy. Like they're so, it takes so much work to just maintain this code. And then it updates to a new version. You need to change everything.

It's because of WordPress, right? Because the blogs are- Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true. I'm seeing a revival now. People are getting sick of frameworks. Like all the JavaScript frameworks are so like, what do you call it, like wieldy. Like they're so, it takes so much work to just maintain this code. And then it updates to a new version. You need to change everything.

PHP just stays the same and works.

PHP just stays the same and works.

I think it's accidental because that's the thing I knew. Like I knew PHP, I knew HTML, CSS, you know, because you make websites. And... When my startup started taking off, I didn't have time to, I remember putting on my to-do list, like learn Node.js because it's important to switch, you know, because this obviously is a much better language than PHP. And I never learned it.

I think it's accidental because that's the thing I knew. Like I knew PHP, I knew HTML, CSS, you know, because you make websites. And... When my startup started taking off, I didn't have time to, I remember putting on my to-do list, like learn Node.js because it's important to switch, you know, because this obviously is a much better language than PHP. And I never learned it.

I never did it because I didn't have time. These things were growing like this and I was launching more projects and I never had time. It's like one day, you know, I'll start coding properly and I never got to it.

I never did it because I didn't have time. These things were growing like this and I was launching more projects and I never had time. It's like one day, you know, I'll start coding properly and I never got to it.

Yeah. It's like software developers. If you want to get a job and there's like, you know, people making stuff like startups. And if you want to be entrepreneur, probably you maybe shouldn't.

Yeah. It's like software developers. If you want to get a job and there's like, you know, people making stuff like startups. And if you want to be entrepreneur, probably you maybe shouldn't.

Man, this is my most controversial take, I think. And maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like there's frameworks now that raise money. They raise a lot of money. Like they raise $50 million, $100 million, $30 million. And the idea is that you need to make the developers, the new developers, like when you're 18 or 20 years old, right? Get them to use this framework and add a platform to it

Man, this is my most controversial take, I think. And maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like there's frameworks now that raise money. They raise a lot of money. Like they raise $50 million, $100 million, $30 million. And the idea is that you need to make the developers, the new developers, like when you're 18 or 20 years old, right? Get them to use this framework and add a platform to it

like where the framework can, it's open source, but you probably should use the platform, which is paid to use it. And the cost of the platforms to host it are a thousand times higher than just hosting it on a simple AWS server or a VPS on DigitalOcean, right? So there's obviously a monetary incentive here.

like where the framework can, it's open source, but you probably should use the platform, which is paid to use it. And the cost of the platforms to host it are a thousand times higher than just hosting it on a simple AWS server or a VPS on DigitalOcean, right? So there's obviously a monetary incentive here.

We want to get a lot of developers to use this technology, and then we need to charge them money because they're going to use it in startups, and then the startups can pay for the bills. But it kind of destroys the... the information out there about learning to code because they, you know, they pay YouTubers, they pay influencers, developer influencers.

We want to get a lot of developers to use this technology, and then we need to charge them money because they're going to use it in startups, and then the startups can pay for the bills. But it kind of destroys the... the information out there about learning to code because they, you know, they pay YouTubers, they pay influencers, developer influencers.

It's a big thing to like, and same thing what happens with like nutrition and fitness or something. Same thing happens in developing. They pay these influencers to promote the stuff, use it, make stuff with it, make demo products with it. And then a lot of people were like, wow, use this. And I started noticing this because when I would ship my stuff, people would ask me, what are you using?

It's a big thing to like, and same thing what happens with like nutrition and fitness or something. Same thing happens in developing. They pay these influencers to promote the stuff, use it, make stuff with it, make demo products with it. And then a lot of people were like, wow, use this. And I started noticing this because when I would ship my stuff, people would ask me, what are you using?

I would say, I would just PHP, jQuery, why does it matter? And people would start kind of attacking me, like, why are you not using this new technology, this new framework, this new thing? And I say, I don't know, because this PHP thing works and I don't really, I'm optimizing for anything, it just works.