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Paul Frazee

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Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Thanks for having me.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Thanks for having me.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Totally. Yeah, that's totally inbounds. Let's do it.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Totally. Yeah, that's totally inbounds. Let's do it.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Yeah, I mean, so, like, everybody on the team has been at this for years. So, like, collectively, I think we have 20 to 25 years of, like, decentralization work, like, leading into the team. Skullbutt was my first one. That was back in 2012-ish. And that was a technology invented by Dominic Tarr. And...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

Yeah, I mean, so, like, everybody on the team has been at this for years. So, like, collectively, I think we have 20 to 25 years of, like, decentralization work, like, leading into the team. Skullbutt was my first one. That was back in 2012-ish. And that was a technology invented by Dominic Tarr. And...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

it could fit into actually all of us came everybody on the blue sky team came from like the p2p world right which was kind of like hey could you take some of the techniques from bittorrent and then do some modifications and actually try to build sort of real time or or large scale or social applications depending on what you were up to using those kinds of p2p techniques and secure skull that was directly geared towards social networking so it was a peer-to-peer social network

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

it could fit into actually all of us came everybody on the blue sky team came from like the p2p world right which was kind of like hey could you take some of the techniques from bittorrent and then do some modifications and actually try to build sort of real time or or large scale or social applications depending on what you were up to using those kinds of p2p techniques and secure skull that was directly geared towards social networking so it was a peer-to-peer social network

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And it had this very aggressive kind of local first mentality. It was called Secure Scuttlebutt because actually it was based on a Scuttlebutt gossip protocol where you're just like having each node kind of like rebroadcast logs to each other in a kind of best effort way.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And it had this very aggressive kind of local first mentality. It was called Secure Scuttlebutt because actually it was based on a Scuttlebutt gossip protocol where you're just like having each node kind of like rebroadcast logs to each other in a kind of best effort way.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And that meant that it had a very fluid topology of connecting together, like any time you were able to catch up from one node that you were able to connect to, you'd be able to, which makes it actually quite ideal for even extreme cases like a sneaker net if you were so inclined.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And that meant that it had a very fluid topology of connecting together, like any time you were able to catch up from one node that you were able to connect to, you'd be able to, which makes it actually quite ideal for even extreme cases like a sneaker net if you were so inclined.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And then what was sort of interesting about it was that we merged together the gossip protocol and the social layer where it would use your follow graph to decide which account logs to synchronize.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

And then what was sort of interesting about it was that we merged together the gossip protocol and the social layer where it would use your follow graph to decide which account logs to synchronize.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So if I was following five people, the default kind of intuition there is whenever I would connect to a node on the system, I would ask those nodes like, okay, here are the five feeds that I'm following. Can you like catch me up on anything that you have for them? And since you're connecting sort of like to a forest of different nodes, you would...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

So if I was following five people, the default kind of intuition there is whenever I would connect to a node on the system, I would ask those nodes like, okay, here are the five feeds that I'm following. Can you like catch me up on anything that you have for them? And since you're connecting sort of like to a forest of different nodes, you would...

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

presumably you know at some point catch up to everything in a kind of eventually consistent way and uh we actually would take it further where you would do friend of a friend expansion so you would actually ask for like the five people you're following plus like two hops out if i remember right Really sort of wild way to do it, but it was aggressively decentralized.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

presumably you know at some point catch up to everything in a kind of eventually consistent way and uh we actually would take it further where you would do friend of a friend expansion so you would actually ask for like the five people you're following plus like two hops out if i remember right Really sort of wild way to do it, but it was aggressively decentralized.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

In fact, I would call it an anarchy, and not in like a pejorative sense, but like quite literally no authorities were encoded in the system. Interesting.

Oxide and Friends
Scaling Bluesky with Paul Frazee

In fact, I would call it an anarchy, and not in like a pejorative sense, but like quite literally no authorities were encoded in the system. Interesting.

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