Liz Bates

Yeah, no props.

Yeah, no props.

She has risen.

She has risen.

I know what you mean though. At what point in your life do your Christmas decorations go to the charity shop? Is it when you die?

I know what you mean though. At what point in your life do your Christmas decorations go to the charity shop? Is it when you die?

It feels relatively appropriate.

It feels relatively appropriate.

Yeah, it has. So I was here, I was on maternity leave when we were talking about the actual general election. So I was watching that as a viewer. There were just so many beautiful images, like, you know, Rishi Sunak in the rain. I think that was a defining image of this kind of conservative era. And it was just quite funny, just him getting soggy.

Yeah, it has. So I was here, I was on maternity leave when we were talking about the actual general election. So I was watching that as a viewer. There were just so many beautiful images, like, you know, Rishi Sunak in the rain. I think that was a defining image of this kind of conservative era. And it was just quite funny, just him getting soggy.

And then going back to work, covering the Labour government. I don't know. I mean, it's quite, it's in some ways interesting. It's quite, in some ways, quite a boring government, I think. Definitely more boring. A lot more policy-based stuff. And I think there's a sense of kind of mild disappointment.

And then going back to work, covering the Labour government. I don't know. I mean, it's quite, it's in some ways interesting. It's quite, in some ways, quite a boring government, I think. Definitely more boring. A lot more policy-based stuff. And I think there's a sense of kind of mild disappointment.

Not kind of rage, but yeah, a bit of mild disappointment. But not things coming at you from all sides.

Not kind of rage, but yeah, a bit of mild disappointment. But not things coming at you from all sides.

The last government I felt was a kind of political bukkake in that sense.

The last government I felt was a kind of political bukkake in that sense.

Yeah, I think it does. And I think the reason that it kind of encapsulates, particularly the final throws of the Conservative government, is because it just didn't work. You know, people in this studio are very left wing. The country is much more centrist and right wing. But the problem with the end for the Conservatives was nobody believed that they could do anything.

Yeah, I think it does. And I think the reason that it kind of encapsulates, particularly the final throws of the Conservative government, is because it just didn't work. You know, people in this studio are very left wing. The country is much more centrist and right wing. But the problem with the end for the Conservatives was nobody believed that they could do anything.

They just did not believe them. When Rishi Sunak stood up and said, I'm going to stop the boats, people were like, no, you're not. No, you're not, because you can't even get your flagship policy to work. And I think that is, in the end, why they called the election so early, because they just stopped being able to do anything. It became a government of incompetence from the top to the bottom.

They just did not believe them. When Rishi Sunak stood up and said, I'm going to stop the boats, people were like, no, you're not. No, you're not, because you can't even get your flagship policy to work. And I think that is, in the end, why they called the election so early, because they just stopped being able to do anything. It became a government of incompetence from the top to the bottom.