Kathy Bates
Appearances
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I think they just offered it to me. I was very lucky. I had not seen the show that much, but I watched a great deal of it when I was preparing for the show, and Everyone was so brilliant and so effortless. You guys, I don't know how you did it. I felt like when I was doing it, I was really running to catch up and it was a learning curve.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I don't know if it was like that for you guys when you started working on the show, but working with their different cameras and the level and the comedy that you guys did, I felt that I was really... Trying to get the feel of that and trying to do, I always felt after I did an episode that I wasn't sure if I'd really done it the best I could.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Wow. Well, I think I was nervous because you guys do the comedy so well, and I don't think of myself as a comedian. And That you worked with the cameras so well. Was that a learning curve for you? I mean, did you... When you started out on it, did you... You had done... When did you start doing it? I mean... The camera?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah. One of the episodes that I think I wish I had prepared for first was when Joe comes in and starts talking about the printers. You know, I would like to have gone back and done that and really gone to town with it. But the other ones I really loved working with, or I mean, Correll, Steve Correll, I couldn't get over what a fantastic actor and improvisationalist he is. So for me,
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
It was great to be around people like him and John and a whole bunch of the guys and gals. It's just to try and learn from them how they do what they do because it's invisible. Does that make sense?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
That's right. He was nominated for an Academy Award. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I was watching it with a friend and we were in about 15 minutes and he said, you know who that is? I said, no, who is that? He said, that's Steve Carell. I said, you've got to be kidding me. I can't believe that's Steve Carell. I mean, he was just, he disappeared into the character.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
But back on working with him at the office, I just wish I could have learned more from him. You know, I certainly enjoyed working on the show. I thought it was a lot of fun. I did have a problem transitioning from lines that were written and then the improvisation that we were allowed to do. I don't know if I ever really succeeded. I kept getting tripped up on that.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
But it was a wonderful experience. I know toward the end, since Steve was leaving, they were interested in me possibly staying on. And I had gone on to do Harry's Law. But, you know, I don't want to cast aspersions on anybody, but I think it would have been fun to stay on The Office, you know. We would have loved that. For sure. For sure. And really developed that character more, you know.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, I had this fur coat that I had found that was kind of strips of fur that was kind of Really kind of low class. But I insisted on wearing that. That was just so inappropriate. And I think, yes, we worked on the hair and the look for her. And it's been a while. So forgive me. I can't remember the wonderful people who worked with me on that to really create something that was out of style.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
you know, I think she figured it's, it's what they say when you figure out what style looks good on you, you stay with it regardless of your age or anything or fashion. And also just her swagger, you know, I, I felt she had a lot of swagger and that she was probably a bull in a China shop. That's, that's how she ran her company was, it was just sort of steamrolling over everybody.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Um, uh, and with her money, um, And I loved the Great Danes. I really did. They were great. There was one scene where I said, let's have the Great Dane. We have to have one of them staring over my shoulder.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah. The trainers walk around with a lot of baby diapers, the old-fashioned ones, because those dogs slobber a lot.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, the baby, they keep their slobber there from coming out. And they were a mother and a son. actually. And I think they weighed about 120 pounds each, just huge, but really sweet. You know, not really, you know, not really bright. But they were, you know, we had fun with them. And I loved the scene where I was looking over my shoulder.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, we kept trying to get him to bark. I don't know if we ever succeeded. I can't remember now.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
You know what? He was so funny. I'll always have this memory. He came up. For some reason, we were shooting in Ruth's room, and he had just been hired at the funeral home. And so he was rushing out the door. We gave him something to do. He had to go do it really quickly. And he ran out into the hallway and he took a right.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And then there was this pause and he ran left because he realized that he didn't know where he was going because it was a completely new environment for him. And I thought, oh, my God, this guy is brilliant. It was such an amazing choice. It was a shock. He was so wonderful to work with, so inventive, so funny. Well, all of the things that you saw working with him on the show, I'm sure.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
When I worked with him on your show, he had evolved quite a bit, you know, as an actor. And he's a very funny guy. Really, really liked working with him.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Well, I'm happy to talk about it. Yeah, we're, we're, the numbers are just, Crazy. They were just off the charts. And the best part about it is that everybody involved with it, whether it's the president of the studio, Amy Reisenbach, who's been our big fan, and David Stapp, the president of the studio, and George Sheeks, who's kind of over all of us in Paramount, they're all so normal people.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
You know, and they're accessible. They communicate and they send emails and, you know, they came to our last table read. And I've never had that happen before. And then, of course, there's Jenny Ehrman, who created Jane the Virgin. And she's brilliant. Her mind works like a Rubik's cube. And the layers that she's created in this series is just fascinating.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And I'm also an executive producer on the show. So they send me the episodes to take a look at, see if I have any suggestions. And I mean, it's just, I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait for what's coming up. So when I first met Jenny, I first read the script and as I was reading along, it seemed like it was just episodic, that it was a case of the week. Yes.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And then of course, there's the twist at the end. And I was thrilled because I think, okay, now this has got substance. It's about something. It's about something meaningful. It's something I can really sink my teeth into. And I read it on a Friday. I met with her on a Monday and I said, don't change a word. I want to do this.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And then we started talking about the character and where it was going and who she was, where she came from, all of the things, how she had planned to sell out with her grandson. And it was fascinating. I never imagined playing a character like this.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
It is amazing. I think so, too. I mean, I had to... keep asking Jenny questions about, is this possible? I remember asking a friend of mine who's in corporate law, not corporate law, but he's in the corporate world. He's a dear friend of mine. I said, could you do this? Could you do this? And he thought about it for a I could. And then I don't have kids. So I talked to my niece.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
She has a daughter who's now grown. And I said, but could you do this? Could you be this devious and deceitful and lie to people all the time for your daughter? And she said, yes. She said, when you're a mother, your love for your child is savage. And I love, of course, the fact that she's older.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I would never have believed that I could have done a series like this at my age, been asked to do one, and that we've gotten letters from people, from women who say, thank you, I don't feel invisible anymore. I think that you'll see as the series goes on that Matlock is really falling in love with being a lawyer again. You know, she was in mourning for years and years, and then her grandson died,
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
saw this Reddit post and said that, you know, this is a way to get back at them. You know, she can plan everything she wants, but she doesn't expect to be a trial lawyer. And you find out later on in the third episode that she, you know, went into contract law because of a sexual abuse experience instead of going into litigation, which is what she really wanted.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And I'm jumping all over here, but that was a seminal moment for her, that she was really able to make a difference, that she was able to remember her own sexual assault, and it changed her opinion about what young women go through nowadays. And it also shows not just the sexual assault, which is what we all talk about and how bad that is and how prevalent that is.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
But it talks about what happens then? What happens after? Do you make a different career choice for women that are trying to get into show business and they get into a really bad situation? What happens to them after that? And In this case, we see Maddie taking a divergent path, one that she wasn't happy with. And she didn't realize that until she met this young woman.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
So the fact that she's learning all of this from everyone is a very powerful thing to say in an episodic television show on network.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, I agree. That's a really good point. Every time I do something, I want to learn from it. And one of the most valuable things, as I was saying, being an exec producer and being able to see the cuts, I'm learning things about my acting, like bad habits, you know, that I want to change without restricting myself. But we're always learning. We're always evolving as artists, as people.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
We're trying to learn from our experiences. And seeing that happen in a show like this is so, I think that's one of the reasons people are so attracted to it. And it's people from all walks of life, which is what I really like.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I feel so grateful that everyone on the show, I think that even the crew, there was a sense when we came back to do episode two, because it was the first time we'd shot in America, we shot the pilot in Toronto. So when we came back to do it here, there was just this buzz and this excitement about getting ready to do the show and the crew, you could feel it on the set.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
It was just, it was, it was new to me to feel that. And so, I mean, we would all go around looking at each other or even the day players or the guest cast that would come in would just be looking at us going, Oh my God, We can't believe it's like this. We've never worked on a show like this. So it's not just the material that we're putting out for everybody.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
It's also the experience of doing it every day and the joy of connecting and being vulnerable to one another so that the work really blossoms. And you learn something about yourself. All I can say is I'm grateful. I'm just so grateful to have this experience.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Well, I felt like for a minute, I felt you were talking about the office. Oh, you know, because it's the same way. I mean, you guys, you were full blown people. And there was, as you said before, you're living. That's what I've always saying to Jenny. I don't want to play Maddie. I want to be Maddie. So that's what you guys were doing.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And the feeling on the set of The Office is, I thought you were talking about you guys. It's the same thing.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Right. Jenna, can you tell me where you are in terms of your work? I know I heard that you have breast cancer. Could you tell me a little bit about where you are in that journey?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Well, I had breast cancer. Let's see. Right. I think right as I started, after I started working with you guys, it was 2012. Yeah. And, um, I, I had a very bad experience with it. I, um, I'd had ovarian in 2003, and for some reason, even though I went through nine rounds of chemo for that, the chemo was really hard.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
We had to do, I can't remember the names of the drugs, but I remember they gave me steroids, and then I would be coming off the steroids and just getting... I don't know if you've gone through that, but that's been really difficult. That was very difficult.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, that was what really, that was difficult for me. But with the breast cancer, that sort of came out of nowhere. I was speaking at Sloan Kettering about being a cancer survivor with ovarian cancer and then came home and discovered I had breast cancer, which was kind of ironic. And because it runs in my family,
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I said, you know, just take both off because I had mainly it was in my left breast, but there were some troubling things in my right breast. And so I decided to have them both removed. I didn't opt for reconstruction. I don't know why. I think at the time I just, I didn't want to do it. And they put drains in and they're, they're very, thick, heavy, not heavy, but thick plastic drains.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah. And for some reason on the left side, it must have hit a nerve. I don't know what it was, but it was so painful. And I realized when they removed it, that's what the extra pain was. There was the pain involved. And then I developed lymphedema after that, which my arms were very swollen. I could only wear men's shirts for a long time.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And through my doctor here, I met Bill Rapisi, who is the CEO of the Lymphatic Education and Research Network. He asked me to come aboard as a national spokesperson. And I said, Bill, I've never done this before. I don't know if I can do a good job, what's involved. But he told me a couple of really disturbing facts that nearly 10 million people in this country suffer from some kind of lymphedema.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And about 50,000 of those are congenitals. So it strikes kids. When we were lobbying in Congress, I met a man who lost three kids to pulmonary lymphedema. Doctors in medical school, in four years of medical school, spend 15 minutes on learning about the lymphatic system.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Well, I'm thrilled to hear you say all of that, because that means that the doctors have learned about it and are making patients aware. When I had breast cancer and I had my breast cancer done at a top notch place here. But the doctors didn't talk to me about that.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I kept talking to them about it because I had been dating a guy at the time who had it in his left arm and it's progressive and it's incurable. And he had gone through an experimental treatment to survive cancer and did not want to go to another doctor until, you know, ever in his life. And as a result, his arm became like wood. Oh, my gosh. And that was my fear.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And also that, you know, I was afraid that that was what lymphedema was. And I was full of rage because I had told the doctors, I'm worried about this. I'm worried about this. I'm worried about this. And they took so many lymph nodes. But I'm thrilled that they told you all of that. Because back then, my doctor had to go and look it up on the Internet. Wow.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
He found this woman, wonderful Dr. Emily Iger, who was able to work with me and get my arms down over a period of time. And now that I've lost a lot of weight, that really helped. But trying to educate people over the last 10 years has been a real journey. We would get emails from people. I remember one guy, I'll never forget him, John Dayo.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
who wrote us an email and at the end of the email, all capital letters, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me. Because the people are in so much pain, they don't know who to go to. I'm really proud of all the work that we've done with Learn. Our CEO has gone all around the world. We have now the first national commission on lymphatic disease at the NIH.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
They had their first meeting a couple of months ago. And we worked really hard to have that happen. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, the congresswoman there, was instrumental in getting us the attention that we needed to get this commission going. We got a grant from the CDC for publicity to really create our outreach for people. We're now working on the DOD because it's not just underneath our arms.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
If these veterans come back and they're traumatic injuries, have damaged their lymph system. They're at risk. We have a man who wanted to be in the Coast Guard and he came back from military and he was just a mess and he had to give up that dream.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
That's been the most moving and sad parts of this is realizing that people had to give up their dreams because of, and there's a kind of lymphedema that happens when you're like late teens, early 20s. when you're just beginning your life and out of nowhere, they don't know what it is. It's some predisposition that occurs at that time. And I appreciate so much.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
You're letting me talk about it on your show because education is key. And I always tell the people that they're at our lobbies sessions in Washington, DC, your pain is your power. Your story is your power. And the fact that you can share your story with me and, You can tell people how far we've come. Yeah. It's amazing that you have perky breasts. You know?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
How about that? That's so great. I'm jelly. I'm totally jelly. No, I lost everything. I lost every hair everywhere. Some of it I'm glad I lost. But it took me a while to get it back.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think my eyelashes really came back or maybe it just being older. Yeah. I had a friend of mine, actually, Judy Corey, who did my hair for misery. She came in and that was back in 2003. She she came over and shaved my head for me. And then after I had a bald head, I mean, I did use all these had things made like caps and all this bullshit wigs and everything.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And finally, I just thought I saw Melissa Etheridge. you know, just wailing on our guitar on some kind of a show with a bald head. And I thought, oh, okay, you know, time to just stop all this hiding and, and just be who you are. But I'm thrilled that there are all of these new, what was the H one that you said? Herpa?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Wow. Oh, bless you. You didn't have to go through that. And you're not having any problems with your arm.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, it's going to be tender, I think. I mean, this is new. You've only had it for a year, gone through it.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, that's true. Lynn Redgrave, God rest her. She was going through fifth stage breast cancer and on the downward slope. I wasn't done with chemo there, actually. I just was about to start it. And I was having gastro problems. And she said, you've got to do this. You're going to be somebody else, you know, as you're saying for the day. And she was right. You know, it gave me...
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
although I was pretty cranky for a while because I just wasn't, I wasn't healed yet. You know, I was, it was a little too soon, but it was also, I couldn't turn down the payday. I really needed the payday because I really dropped out. I was scared. I was one of those people. And this was with the ovarian.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I was one of those people who stayed up at night, you know, and looked at the internet to see if I could divine anything. But I, Knock wood, it's been 20 years, and I don't think I'm going to be having more problems with that.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I think that's a great point. And I think that's exactly what I experienced when I had ovarian cancer. You know, I had a friend at the time who was so supportive. And I remember at one point, we were getting ready to go somewhere and I was sitting on the step, lacing my shoes and my cap fell off and he sort of laughed. And I just said, this is so hard for me.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And then I found out that as I progressed through the chemotherapy, this was for ovarian, that people have exactly that reaction. Only they left sooner during my, because it went on for nine months. My doctor wanted me to do it for six months, but he said, you're doing well. So let's do it, you know, another three months.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And people just sort of dropped away because they didn't, they said, wow, you know, isn't this over? Isn't it going to be done? Is it, you know, they didn't have the patients really. And so I went to my chemotherapy sessions by myself. I got to the point.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Well, I got to the point of where I would just go by myself. It was easier to go and hope that I got the really good looking Russian nurse who would come in. I don't know what his name was. I can't remember, Vasily or something like that, or Ivan. I was like, oh my God, he's here today. Great, great. But it would take about four hours to be in there.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And they gave me a private room and all of that. So being a VIP help, and thank God with the breast cancer, I didn't have to go through chemotherapy or radiation, which is one reason why I opted to just make it a double. But I was really enraged after, but we talked about that before.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And it wasn't until I sat with Dr. Eicher, you know, and I told her all of the things I was feeling and the rage that I was feeling. And she's this charming little woman, Czechoslovakian. And she's just said something like, okay, well, Let's have a glass of champagne, and then we will begin the rest of your life. I love that.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Somehow she just slowly pulled me out of my rage, and then working with Learn, I was able to use it to give it purpose, to give back, to do something real in the real world, which is like what you guys are doing. Angela, have you ever had to deal with anything like this?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Well, you see, there's this funny thing that happens when women age. We become damn near invisible. Oh, not that I'm complaining. I had my moment in the sun. Plus, it's useful because nobody sees us coming. That's how I got through your security several times. And it's also how I knew that Peabody's counsel grabs coffee and updates his client between 8.15 and 8.25. What's the number? Am I hired?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Oh, thank you. Too many of us and younger and younger and younger are getting breast cancer, developing breast cancer. And I'm so heartened by what I've learned from you today, Jenna, because to realize that the strides that they've made just in the last 20 years, is phenomenal. And I wish I'd had that kind of prevent. I'm trying to remember the name of the chemo that I was on for ovarian.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
U-tree and the druids felt that the U-tree was represented rebirth?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Oh, yes. My niece dug that up. Wow. You know, I was an old hippie at one point in my life. So, yeah.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I was at a place called the Spring Cottage. It was in England. It was on the Thames. It belonged to Lady Astor. It's now part of the National Preserve there. And we were doing a movie, and I got to stay down at the Spring Cottage, and it was right on the river. And it had its own boat. It had a butler, if you can believe that.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And it's where Lady Sutherland lived, and Queen Victoria would come and have tea there. And you can look at pictures of it. It's just so beautiful. Lived in-house. Taplow. Yeah, built for Queen Victoria by the Sutherlands. And it's located on the River Thames in the grounds of Clifton House. It's a three bedroom riverside property with a private garden and covered porch.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
$23 million, which means I just made you $4 million. Do I still need a two-week trial?
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
It's great. When I bought it, my niece said at the time, it's the boomer thing to do. But yeah. We found these wonderful places to stay. And a lot of them, I guess it is a boomer thing to do. You can find these beautiful places with your pads that you have all of your electricity. You have like a, you know, a barbecue place, but then they'll have a main building where you can do laundry.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And there's, I mean, some of them are just out of this world. I highly recommend them, especially if you have a loved one. It's really a couple's thing to do.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Actually, my favorite place, I went to my hometown Memphis. And through friends, I found a very simple spot on the western side of the Mississippi. And we were right there with the Mississippi River. Literally, there was nothing in between us. And his family had left it to him, this piece of property, and he turned it into an RV park. I don't know what it is now.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I used to play the guitar. And I don't anymore. But I have a couple of ones that I really, really enjoy. And the first job I ever got was a movie called Taking Off. And I played a song that I wrote when I was 16. And it was in the movie. It was Milos Forman's first film, American film. But that's been many, many years ago. I loved playing. I taught myself how to play. And so I miss it.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Ah, it depends. Um, what I like to do on the weekends. Sometimes I like to go to a real movie theater and see a movie. Um, Sometimes I'm learning lines. It's depending if I'm working or not. What else do I like to do? I like to color. I like to color coloring books and stuff.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And I have, in fact, Jenny Ehrman, who wrote our series, just sent me a box of wonderful pencils and coloring books because she loves to do that. And I have an app on my iPad that I love to do. I love to color I love to listen to books on tape.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
That's one of the things I'm really starting to enjoy on my hiatus is that I'm now back to listening to books and reading a lot of different kinds of books. I just finished a book called The Conclave last night, which is brilliant. I know there's a film out about it. I want to go and see that. So yes, I'll do. I like to read. I like the color. I guess it's kind of like a, I don't know, maybe I'm,
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I'd stuck at 13 years old. I don't know. But those are the kinds of things I like to do and be with my dog, my puppy, and just very low key.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Well, it all boils down to, someone once told me you have to have a head like a bullet and a heart like a baby. And I could expand on that by saying, especially nowadays with social media being so powerful and powerful in negative ways, is that you really have to be, you have to get strong. You have to get tough. And at the same time, not get cynical or bitter about
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
But you've got to protect yourself. I don't advocate being on social media unless, in your case, it's a great thing for your show. You need to do that. But I don't want to read negative things about myself.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I just think that the best kind of advice I could give is if you're serious about being an actor, if you want to be an actor like Cillian Murphy or Anthony Hopkins or Cate Blanchett, you have to study. You have to work. You can't just be, it's wonderful to be young and to be given an opportunity. And if you've got that spark, if you've got it and you can really sail out there, that's great.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And then I'd say, protect your heart. Don't let your heart get hurt by strangers who say things about you or your work. Yeah. Because work is what got us here. Work is what's going to keep us here. I mean, it's like you guys were talking about the collaborative aspect of your work. And that was the focus of what you did. And that's what made it so wonderful.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
It is. It's a gift to be porous. It works great in your work, but it's not so great in the world outside. It can be difficult. But I remember a producer, because I got very hurt one time in London by an awful interviewer, and I literally left the tour And I remember the producer coming to me and saying, you're going to have to get a lot tougher. You're going to have to toughen up.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
And he was right. Anyway, I appreciate being able to chat with you in a very open and safe way. And I think we talked about some wonderful things. And I'm so happy for you. Oh, well, thank you. Happy for you, Jenna, that you've come through this.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I'll wait for that. I really will. I'm excited for you to do that. Angela, thank you so much. It was great speaking with you today. I really appreciate it.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
Yeah, she's in a licking mode. I don't know why. Hi, how are you guys? So good.
Office Ladies
An Interview with Kathy Bates
I know. Let's see. I think I did this show in 11, like 12 years ago. Yeah. 12, 13 years ago. It's been a long time.