Jordan Schlansky
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I can't wait to see you guys use that.
I can't wait to see you guys use that.
Yeah, it is. Mine's a little different. I use a torch, so I don't have a big furnace of glass. I have a torch that I use, and then I get these glass tubes in four-foot lengths, and then I'll create stuff out of that. So I don't have a big furnace that I pull globs of glass out of. Well, you know what?
Yeah, it is. Mine's a little different. I use a torch, so I don't have a big furnace of glass. I have a torch that I use, and then I get these glass tubes in four-foot lengths, and then I'll create stuff out of that. So I don't have a big furnace that I pull globs of glass out of. Well, you know what?
I love your take on that.
I love your take on that.
It's called Apex Design Glass. So I made that name when I was in high school for a web design business I was doing. And then I just kept it through my glassblowing business as well.
It's called Apex Design Glass. So I made that name when I was in high school for a web design business I was doing. And then I just kept it through my glassblowing business as well.
Yeah, if you look up Apix Design, then yeah, I got a website, I got an Instagram. I have a good little following of people who like my glass, so it's easy to find it.
Yeah, if you look up Apix Design, then yeah, I got a website, I got an Instagram. I have a good little following of people who like my glass, so it's easy to find it.
I'm in Vacaville, California, so near Sacramento, Napa Valley area. Oh, okay.
I'm in Vacaville, California, so near Sacramento, Napa Valley area. Oh, okay.
I don't want to keep saying bongs. I actually sent you guys a gift. What?
I don't want to keep saying bongs. I actually sent you guys a gift. What?
I'm a glassblower, a glass artist. So I work with, these are glass lays. So I work with glass tubing and glass rods and I create stuff out of glass.
I'm a glassblower, a glass artist. So I work with, these are glass lays. So I work with glass tubing and glass rods and I create stuff out of glass.
Yeah, this is a scientific glassware. So like you'd find in really nice, you know, Pyrex glass. Yeah. So this can be used for, you know, it can go in the dishwasher. It's not sensitive to heat. So you can put hot stuff in there. No problem. This is extraordinary.
Yeah, this is a scientific glassware. So like you'd find in really nice, you know, Pyrex glass. Yeah. So this can be used for, you know, it can go in the dishwasher. It's not sensitive to heat. So you can put hot stuff in there. No problem. This is extraordinary.
Which is a blue. No problem. I'm glad I could get you guys some stuff. Once I heard I was going to be on here, I really wanted to get something made for you guys.
Which is a blue. No problem. I'm glad I could get you guys some stuff. Once I heard I was going to be on here, I really wanted to get something made for you guys.
Well, I mean, I got told on Thursday that you guys wanted me to be on here. And then by Saturday, I was finishing it up. And then Sunday, I did the sandblasting and I sent it out on Monday. Oh, my God. If I'm really, you know, really want to get something done, I can do it pretty quick.
Well, I mean, I got told on Thursday that you guys wanted me to be on here. And then by Saturday, I was finishing it up. And then Sunday, I did the sandblasting and I sent it out on Monday. Oh, my God. If I'm really, you know, really want to get something done, I can do it pretty quick.
My main product that I make is water pipes. So I make bongs, basically. I see them back there. Look at those.
My main product that I make is water pipes. So I make bongs, basically. I see them back there. Look at those.
um and uh we're very proud of this and we're proud of you proud to have you as a fan really hey thank you very much and uh yeah i had one quick question i was curious you know uh as a celebrity um i'll handle you know you um like when i get home i i like to do stuff around the house so like i'll help my wife doing stuff or i'll you know work on the backyard yep
um and uh we're very proud of this and we're proud of you proud to have you as a fan really hey thank you very much and uh yeah i had one quick question i was curious you know uh as a celebrity um i'll handle you know you um like when i get home i i like to do stuff around the house so like i'll help my wife doing stuff or i'll you know work on the backyard yep
And I was curious, as a celebrity, is there something that you go home and your wife's like, I want these photos hung up on the wall? Like, what do you do when you get home and you're asked to do something? Do you just call someone or do you take charge of doing stuff like that?
And I was curious, as a celebrity, is there something that you go home and your wife's like, I want these photos hung up on the wall? Like, what do you do when you get home and you're asked to do something? Do you just call someone or do you take charge of doing stuff like that?
Okay, awesome. Yeah, that's what I wanted to hear. I was curious what you, you know, if you called like a butler to come help you or something.
Okay, awesome. Yeah, that's what I wanted to hear. I was curious what you, you know, if you called like a butler to come help you or something.
I started in high school, so I feel like everyone in high school kind of wanted or needed a bong. And I liked making things, so that drew me to it. I originally started, I wanted to do welding, but it was a little complicated, I feel like, so I went into glassblowing, which was even more complicated. Yeah.
I started in high school, so I feel like everyone in high school kind of wanted or needed a bong. And I liked making things, so that drew me to it. I originally started, I wanted to do welding, but it was a little complicated, I feel like, so I went into glassblowing, which was even more complicated. Yeah.
They're encouraging this use of artificial colors as those people that wrote those letters to General Mills did.
They're encouraging this use of artificial colors as those people that wrote those letters to General Mills did.
Yeah, I actually feel wasteful when I throw away half my marshmallows. It's good to know that you would have saved them for me. Can you save them for me? You know what? You can buy your own marshmallows. It's ridiculous to suggest that I would save them and transport them to you. You want some Froot Loops? Yeah. Let me try the Froot Loops. Take a look.
Yeah, I actually feel wasteful when I throw away half my marshmallows. It's good to know that you would have saved them for me. Can you save them for me? You know what? You can buy your own marshmallows. It's ridiculous to suggest that I would save them and transport them to you. You want some Froot Loops? Yeah. Let me try the Froot Loops. Take a look.
I'm not completely convinced that we have a show. I feel like when most people get a show, there's some kind of feeling of accomplishment. Will I be financially compensated for this? We'll talk about that.
I'm not completely convinced that we have a show. I feel like when most people get a show, there's some kind of feeling of accomplishment. Will I be financially compensated for this? We'll talk about that.
Take a look at the British Froot Loops and understand that they taste the same.
Take a look at the British Froot Loops and understand that they taste the same.
That was- I found them in your office. Yeah, in 2008. Okay, so what happened? Shot in 2007, by the way, aired in early 2008. Okay, I'm a good driver.
That was- I found them in your office. Yeah, in 2008. Okay, so what happened? Shot in 2007, by the way, aired in early 2008. Okay, I'm a good driver.
It really is the same. The only difference being that some men kill people and some men eat cereal. You say tomato, I say tomato.
It really is the same. The only difference being that some men kill people and some men eat cereal. You say tomato, I say tomato.
You can eat your soy protein, impervious to any criticism, while I'll consume high-quality whey protein, and once every three years, I'll have some lucky charms.
You can eat your soy protein, impervious to any criticism, while I'll consume high-quality whey protein, and once every three years, I'll have some lucky charms.
Well, the mere fact that people approach and oftentimes want a photo or a selfie already tells me that they're appreciative of the work that I guess you and I do together, the artistic work, our contribution.
Well, the mere fact that people approach and oftentimes want a photo or a selfie already tells me that they're appreciative of the work that I guess you and I do together, the artistic work, our contribution.
Yes, they are.
Yes, they are.
I can't recall any questions about you in particular. Oh, really?
I can't recall any questions about you in particular. Oh, really?
I get questions about myself, but that's my own experience. You might get questions about you and not me.
I get questions about myself, but that's my own experience. You might get questions about you and not me.
Generally, it comes from Conan. No one else asked me what I do. It's a fascination of yours.
Generally, it comes from Conan. No one else asked me what I do. It's a fascination of yours.
Yeah. Nevertheless, I believe that artistic contribution should be compensated.
Yeah. Nevertheless, I believe that artistic contribution should be compensated.
I'm talking about in when I'm finally engaged by Sirius and given a contract, I expect to be referred to as the artist in parentheses. That's generally how these things work. Are you an artist?
I'm talking about in when I'm finally engaged by Sirius and given a contract, I expect to be referred to as the artist in parentheses. That's generally how these things work. Are you an artist?
I think my artistic services should be adequately compensated.
I think my artistic services should be adequately compensated.
You don't like dogs? I'm not responsible for the U.S. financial system and the business model that exists where if you work, you get paid for that work. I didn't invent that, but nevertheless, that's where we are. Your eyes are crazy again. I'm just going through life in this society like everyone else.
You don't like dogs? I'm not responsible for the U.S. financial system and the business model that exists where if you work, you get paid for that work. I didn't invent that, but nevertheless, that's where we are. Your eyes are crazy again. I'm just going through life in this society like everyone else.
These are my human expressions. I did not craft this. I didn't ask for this body. I was given this musculature.
These are my human expressions. I did not craft this. I didn't ask for this body. I was given this musculature.
I was given this facial structure, and that's the way my facial structure reacts to any number of stimuli. But you could work on it.
I was given this facial structure, and that's the way my facial structure reacts to any number of stimuli. But you could work on it.
No, I have not worked on trying to have a regular smile.
No, I have not worked on trying to have a regular smile.
So what's your specific complaint right now? What's your grievance? That my smile is aesthetically displeasing?
So what's your specific complaint right now? What's your grievance? That my smile is aesthetically displeasing?
That will make you more comfortable for me to have a different smile. I guess I could consider it.
That will make you more comfortable for me to have a different smile. I guess I could consider it.
Oh, yes. Well, you know, this is a complex question.
Oh, yes. Well, you know, this is a complex question.
Well, primarily I like to lift heavy objects. I believe in resistance training, also known as strength training. I stress my muscles beyond their capacity to prompt them to grow larger and stronger.
Well, primarily I like to lift heavy objects. I believe in resistance training, also known as strength training. I stress my muscles beyond their capacity to prompt them to grow larger and stronger.
I don't know if everybody knows you take that for granted because you have high power trainers. The point is, if you don't stress your muscle, you have to work out to failure. OK, you have to work out until you can't lift another rep. Buddy, you're there.
I don't know if everybody knows you take that for granted because you have high power trainers. The point is, if you don't stress your muscle, you have to work out to failure. OK, you have to work out until you can't lift another rep. Buddy, you're there.
Well... Be honest.
Well... Be honest.
First of all, we need to be relative. We need to be relative to your age. OK, I'm not going to assess you as if you were a 20 year old. Do you look as good as a 20 year old? No, of course not. You wouldn't expect to. So there's that. So you've got, you know, age and, you know, there are certain things. Look, you're a nice guy. I mean, what I'm saying is what I'm saying.
First of all, we need to be relative. We need to be relative to your age. OK, I'm not going to assess you as if you were a 20 year old. Do you look as good as a 20 year old? No, of course not. You wouldn't expect to. So there's that. So you've got, you know, age and, you know, there are certain things. Look, you're a nice guy. I mean, what I'm saying is what I'm saying.
Look, look, they're not. Wait a minute. I'm a nice guy. Physically speaking, you have strengths. OK, what's your posture? And for a taller guy, you know what? Most people, when they hit puberty, people that are tall, they kind of developed a hunch stance because they're trying to, like, diminutize themselves because they feel a little.
Look, look, they're not. Wait a minute. I'm a nice guy. Physically speaking, you have strengths. OK, what's your posture? And for a taller guy, you know what? Most people, when they hit puberty, people that are tall, they kind of developed a hunch stance because they're trying to, like, diminutize themselves because they feel a little.
No, for a tall man, you're quite you are quite erect. You you stand with good posture.
No, for a tall man, you're quite you are quite erect. You you stand with good posture.
Well, I know that you work out because I know you and we it's come up in discussion. Yeah, sure. No, but when you look at me, when I look at you, be honest. Come on. You can tell I'm in pretty good shape. Who knows what you would look like if you didn't work out? So by that reckoning, I'm guessing that working out has certain benefits to your... You're talking about visually?
Well, I know that you work out because I know you and we it's come up in discussion. Yeah, sure. No, but when you look at me, when I look at you, be honest. Come on. You can tell I'm in pretty good shape. Who knows what you would look like if you didn't work out? So by that reckoning, I'm guessing that working out has certain benefits to your... You're talking about visually?
You want to know how you visually look? Yeah.
You want to know how you visually look? Yeah.
Well, look, a man is a complex sum of his parts and then some. I don't just dissect your physical appearance and separate it out from everything else. When you walk into a room, I say there's a man and he's got some strengths.
Well, look, a man is a complex sum of his parts and then some. I don't just dissect your physical appearance and separate it out from everything else. When you walk into a room, I say there's a man and he's got some strengths.
Well, I don't know what kind of feedback you're looking for. Do you want thin? Well, sure. I mean, you're not obese. So, you know, I mean... I've seen you different weights over the years. That's okay.
Well, I don't know what kind of feedback you're looking for. Do you want thin? Well, sure. I mean, you're not obese. So, you know, I mean... I've seen you different weights over the years. That's okay.
I mean, look, this is not late 2004, early 2005.
I mean, look, this is not late 2004, early 2005.
That's when I looked great? No, you had a good few years, even through 2007. Few years, few years.
That's when I looked great? No, you had a good few years, even through 2007. Few years, few years.
At your peak. Is this the lowest you've ever been?
At your peak. Is this the lowest you've ever been?
OK. Yeah. You're not. I mean, 60. Is that like a senior citizen? But by the strictest definition, I don't know when. When do you not have to take your shoes off at the airport? Sixty two. No, I'm just saying, like, I don't understand what's considered elderly, but you do not look elderly. Thank you. If people think 60 is elderly... And I'm pretty spry.
OK. Yeah. You're not. I mean, 60. Is that like a senior citizen? But by the strictest definition, I don't know when. When do you not have to take your shoes off at the airport? Sixty two. No, I'm just saying, like, I don't understand what's considered elderly, but you do not look elderly. Thank you. If people think 60 is elderly... And I'm pretty spry.
No, you do have muscles.
No, you do have muscles.
I could totally rip you apart. Yeah, even at your worst in 2000, you know, one, two...
I could totally rip you apart. Yeah, even at your worst in 2000, you know, one, two...
So when you say you had a bad year, like nutritionally speaking, what are we talking? Late night binges? Like what were you doing to gain that?
So when you say you had a bad year, like nutritionally speaking, what are we talking? Late night binges? Like what were you doing to gain that?
I'm just saying, how does it happen?
I'm just saying, how does it happen?
What I'm saying was it just that every meal was slightly bigger? Were you just eating late at night before being at rest? Yeah.
What I'm saying was it just that every meal was slightly bigger? Were you just eating late at night before being at rest? Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Was it pork? size that got you?
Was it pork? size that got you?
I'm answering the question that was asked of me. You look better than you did back in the early 2000s. OK, thanks a lot.
I'm answering the question that was asked of me. You look better than you did back in the early 2000s. OK, thanks a lot.
By the way, I've deteriorated as well. I mean, I mean, I'm not talking about mentally.
By the way, I've deteriorated as well. I mean, I mean, I'm not talking about mentally.
Yes, I've deteriorated as well. I would expect you to deteriorate.
Yes, I've deteriorated as well. I would expect you to deteriorate.
We see the world through a subjective lens. You understand we consider a number of possibilities. You don't exist in a vacuum. Your physical appearance doesn't exist in a vacuum. When I look at you, I think of your life circumstance. I think of your aura. I think of so many things that are far more important than your physical shell. Physically, sure, you're deteriorating. As as as we all are.
We see the world through a subjective lens. You understand we consider a number of possibilities. You don't exist in a vacuum. Your physical appearance doesn't exist in a vacuum. When I look at you, I think of your life circumstance. I think of your aura. I think of so many things that are far more important than your physical shell. Physically, sure, you're deteriorating. As as as we all are.
And it will only get worse and not even in a linear scale. It will be exponential.
And it will only get worse and not even in a linear scale. It will be exponential.
The difference between 60 and 70 will be far more dramatic than the difference between 50.
The difference between 60 and 70 will be far more dramatic than the difference between 50.
What I'm saying, there'll be times when you look back on this video, for example, and you say, God, I was an Adonis back then. Look at me now. I'm saying this is from this point forward, as good as it's going to get for you. Now, sure, you can make certain improvements to your lifestyle, nutritionally speaking.
What I'm saying, there'll be times when you look back on this video, for example, and you say, God, I was an Adonis back then. Look at me now. I'm saying this is from this point forward, as good as it's going to get for you. Now, sure, you can make certain improvements to your lifestyle, nutritionally speaking.
You know what I'm saying? This is the beauty of the human experience. There's a rise and a fall. this is the period where, uh, look, I didn't make these rules of nature, but they, they exist. Your body is useless to human evolution. At this point, you, you, we know that you have value to us, but, uh, mother nature doesn't know this. Your, your genetic programming doesn't know this.
You know what I'm saying? This is the beauty of the human experience. There's a rise and a fall. this is the period where, uh, look, I didn't make these rules of nature, but they, they exist. Your body is useless to human evolution. At this point, you, you, we know that you have value to us, but, uh, mother nature doesn't know this. Your, your genetic programming doesn't know this.
You are as, as you know, potentially everyone in this room, a couple of very good looking men in here. Uh, you are deteriorating. You are, um, you are in the decline, the decrescendo, um, the plummet. Yeah.
You are as, as you know, potentially everyone in this room, a couple of very good looking men in here. Uh, you are deteriorating. You are, um, you are in the decline, the decrescendo, um, the plummet. Yeah.
Yeah, my pleasure. You see, I'm being prompted to be critical and then I will be criticized for being critical. What's worth mentioning is when people do decline, sometimes they decline in different ways. OK, we have different deficiencies. For whatever reason, your own particular deficiency was. somewhat unique among the people that I know. Sometimes I see people get bellies.
Yeah, my pleasure. You see, I'm being prompted to be critical and then I will be criticized for being critical. What's worth mentioning is when people do decline, sometimes they decline in different ways. OK, we have different deficiencies. For whatever reason, your own particular deficiency was. somewhat unique among the people that I know. Sometimes I see people get bellies.
I see people, you know, have lose muscle mass. You had a very specific deficiency. Your face and your body itself stretched horizontally. You widened your face, widened. I don't understand the mechanics of it.
I see people, you know, have lose muscle mass. You had a very specific deficiency. Your face and your body itself stretched horizontally. You widened your face, widened. I don't understand the mechanics of it.
I'm not aware of any alternatives to chocolate that have that brown appearance.
I'm not aware of any alternatives to chocolate that have that brown appearance.
Okay, so now, in case there was like an injection of human growth hormone to widen the bone structure of your jaw, I don't understand the mechanics of it. Look at my face now.
Okay, so now, in case there was like an injection of human growth hormone to widen the bone structure of your jaw, I don't understand the mechanics of it. Look at my face now.
That's the mini Moog. You see that growl? It's a growl.
That's the mini Moog. You see that growl? It's a growl.
Bob Moog. Yeah. Dutch name, of course, Mulch. Just like a stroopwafel. You are familiar with the Dutch treat stroopwafel, the O-O, stroop meaning syrup. No, I didn't know that. Wafel meaning waffles. Yeah, wafel is, of course, waffles.
Bob Moog. Yeah. Dutch name, of course, Mulch. Just like a stroopwafel. You are familiar with the Dutch treat stroopwafel, the O-O, stroop meaning syrup. No, I didn't know that. Wafel meaning waffles. Yeah, wafel is, of course, waffles.
It does. What type of protein is in that bar? A low quality protein like pea or soy or is it like a high quality whey only protein bar? I don't want to get into it. That's not what we're here to talk about. And what's the balance of protein to carbohydrates? Do you just shove something in your mouth because maybe your trainer recommended it or did they have it at your gym? I don't understand.
It does. What type of protein is in that bar? A low quality protein like pea or soy or is it like a high quality whey only protein bar? I don't want to get into it. That's not what we're here to talk about. And what's the balance of protein to carbohydrates? Do you just shove something in your mouth because maybe your trainer recommended it or did they have it at your gym? I don't understand.
You hear the growl of that Moog synthesizer, indicative of early 80s synthesizers. No, it's actually Moog. It's a Dutch name. It's actually pronounced Moog, if you really want to be accurate. All right.
You hear the growl of that Moog synthesizer, indicative of early 80s synthesizers. No, it's actually Moog. It's a Dutch name. It's actually pronounced Moog, if you really want to be accurate. All right.
Is this your art right now? What I'm saying is bullying someone. This is a slow burn. Why don't you go to go for like rapid fire laughs? We're here. People are driving to work. This is slow and steady.
Is this your art right now? What I'm saying is bullying someone. This is a slow burn. Why don't you go to go for like rapid fire laughs? We're here. People are driving to work. This is slow and steady.
Genetically modified?
Genetically modified?
Why don't you try like a Rise branded bar, which is just like 100% whey protein.
Why don't you try like a Rise branded bar, which is just like 100% whey protein.
Well, there are, like any human being, I'm not impervious to marketing efforts by various large corporations that produce processed food products. I have cravings like anyone else.
Well, there are, like any human being, I'm not impervious to marketing efforts by various large corporations that produce processed food products. I have cravings like anyone else.
I'm saying I have certain cravings. Candy is not a particular craving of mine. I would never eat a bar such as the one you're eating that's covered in a chocolate-like substance that smells like chocolate, looks like chocolate, but according to you, may not be chocolate. I don't have cravings for candy. You know, I'll have like a tiramisu. I'll have some ice cream.
I'm saying I have certain cravings. Candy is not a particular craving of mine. I would never eat a bar such as the one you're eating that's covered in a chocolate-like substance that smells like chocolate, looks like chocolate, but according to you, may not be chocolate. I don't have cravings for candy. You know, I'll have like a tiramisu. I'll have some ice cream.
I know a lot of people equate synthesizers with the late 80s sound, that is to say, bright and blaring. I'm talking specifically about 86, 87, and 88, the most horrible, arguably, year. But when you talk about early 80s, there's more of a buzzy synthesizer sound.
I know a lot of people equate synthesizers with the late 80s sound, that is to say, bright and blaring. I'm talking specifically about 86, 87, and 88, the most horrible, arguably, year. But when you talk about early 80s, there's more of a buzzy synthesizer sound.
Well, it's interesting that you bring that up. I would say once every three to four years, I'll get a craving for some commercial breakfast cereal, okay?
Well, it's interesting that you bring that up. I would say once every three to four years, I'll get a craving for some commercial breakfast cereal, okay?
Tell me what these are. First of all, I do not believe that any breakfast... Every breakfast cereal is healthy, okay? Even if they're marketed as such, even if they don't have added sugar. I believe the whole concept of extruding wheat or other grains is indigestible to the body, makes the body work hard.
Tell me what these are. First of all, I do not believe that any breakfast... Every breakfast cereal is healthy, okay? Even if they're marketed as such, even if they don't have added sugar. I believe the whole concept of extruding wheat or other grains is indigestible to the body, makes the body work hard.
Even a supposedly healthy cereal like Cheerios, which is marketed as having whole grains, I don't think is healthy for the human body. That's my own belief. I'm sorry if I get the show in trouble for saying so. Not at all.
Even a supposedly healthy cereal like Cheerios, which is marketed as having whole grains, I don't think is healthy for the human body. That's my own belief. I'm sorry if I get the show in trouble for saying so. Not at all.
If I'm going to fall off the wagon, understanding that I don't believe any of them are healthy, I'm going to go for the maximum impact, satiate my craving so that craving goes away and life storm it for another 30 years. three to four years.
If I'm going to fall off the wagon, understanding that I don't believe any of them are healthy, I'm going to go for the maximum impact, satiate my craving so that craving goes away and life storm it for another 30 years. three to four years.
OK, so, well, I made some new discoveries recently, but historically, I would say my holy grail, my guilty pleasure would have been like Froot Loops. Now, regarding Froot Loops, you have an American version of Froot Loops and you have a British version of Froot Loops.
OK, so, well, I made some new discoveries recently, but historically, I would say my holy grail, my guilty pleasure would have been like Froot Loops. Now, regarding Froot Loops, you have an American version of Froot Loops and you have a British version of Froot Loops.
Who says Toucan Sam isn't a lady. Sam is a gender neutral name. Very good. I like the way you've evolved. Go ahead. There are certain regulations in the European Union that prohibit the use of artificial colors, for example. So the Froot Loops in the UK have different colors. They're colored by natural products, turmeric, spinach, things like this.
Who says Toucan Sam isn't a lady. Sam is a gender neutral name. Very good. I like the way you've evolved. Go ahead. There are certain regulations in the European Union that prohibit the use of artificial colors, for example. So the Froot Loops in the UK have different colors. They're colored by natural products, turmeric, spinach, things like this.
And sure, the colors are a little more muted than the artificially colored product we get here in the United States, but that's a small price to pay. And furthermore, I found that the Froot Loops in the United States have a hydrogenated oil and the British ones do not. I've never had the pleasure of consuming the British ones.
And sure, the colors are a little more muted than the artificially colored product we get here in the United States, but that's a small price to pay. And furthermore, I found that the Froot Loops in the United States have a hydrogenated oil and the British ones do not. I've never had the pleasure of consuming the British ones.
Why are you shouting?
Why are you shouting?
This is my normal tonality. I don't think so. And by the way, we have a man, Eduardo, who can adjust the input level to compensate.
This is my normal tonality. I don't think so. And by the way, we have a man, Eduardo, who can adjust the input level to compensate.
Okay, I would like to try the British Fruit Loops. Nevertheless, Fruit Loops was always my holy grail. And I'll tell you something, not about Fruit Loops, but about Trix, which is a General Mills cereal, okay? So they also have artificial colors here. And a number of years ago, General Mills took the admirable stance and they said, we are going to phase out artificial colors in our cereal.
Okay, I would like to try the British Fruit Loops. Nevertheless, Fruit Loops was always my holy grail. And I'll tell you something, not about Fruit Loops, but about Trix, which is a General Mills cereal, okay? So they also have artificial colors here. And a number of years ago, General Mills took the admirable stance and they said, we are going to phase out artificial colors in our cereal.
And I said, finally, our country is moving forward. They listen to the consumer. The consumer votes with their dollar. Consumer trends show people want healthier. McDonald's offers salads now. So now finally, they're getting rid of artificial colors. And they did. And of course, the colors were now natural. They were a little more muted and the cereal tasted exactly the same.
And I said, finally, our country is moving forward. They listen to the consumer. The consumer votes with their dollar. Consumer trends show people want healthier. McDonald's offers salads now. So now finally, they're getting rid of artificial colors. And they did. And of course, the colors were now natural. They were a little more muted and the cereal tasted exactly the same.
And suddenly there was an angry letter writing campaign by Americans complaining about this change. People saying this is not the cereal I grew up with. I do not want my children having these disgusting colors. And I'm thinking to myself, you're blowing it. You're blowing it. We're finally moving forward as a nation. And you're you're you're saying the exact opposite of what you should say.
And suddenly there was an angry letter writing campaign by Americans complaining about this change. People saying this is not the cereal I grew up with. I do not want my children having these disgusting colors. And I'm thinking to myself, you're blowing it. You're blowing it. We're finally moving forward as a nation. And you're you're you're saying the exact opposite of what you should say.
People were so disappointed that Cheryl wasn't as bright as it used to be, tasting exactly the same. And you know what General Mills did? They said, sorry, we made a mistake. And they put the artificial colors back in. And that's regression. And I'm incredibly ashamed of this country's reaction to the naturally colored tricks.
People were so disappointed that Cheryl wasn't as bright as it used to be, tasting exactly the same. And you know what General Mills did? They said, sorry, we made a mistake. And they put the artificial colors back in. And that's regression. And I'm incredibly ashamed of this country's reaction to the naturally colored tricks.
OK, but recently I had one of my cravings that I wanted to satisfy and I was in the supermarket. So I went to the cereal aisle and I said, let me just take care of this, nip this in the bud and then it will disappear and I can eat normal, unprocessed foods for another three years. So I filled my basket with my Holy Grail Fruit Loops, and then I mixed it up a little bit.
OK, but recently I had one of my cravings that I wanted to satisfy and I was in the supermarket. So I went to the cereal aisle and I said, let me just take care of this, nip this in the bud and then it will disappear and I can eat normal, unprocessed foods for another three years. So I filled my basket with my Holy Grail Fruit Loops, and then I mixed it up a little bit.
I also did Golden Grams, which was also one that I have liked historically. And I went with a Lucky Charms, which is like a wild card, guilty pleasure, another one of those super sugary cereals. And then I went with Quaker Cereal Life. Life is not quite as sweet as some of the other ones.
I also did Golden Grams, which was also one that I have liked historically. And I went with a Lucky Charms, which is like a wild card, guilty pleasure, another one of those super sugary cereals. And then I went with Quaker Cereal Life. Life is not quite as sweet as some of the other ones.
the company just say life okay life cereal now i did some experimenting and i had some revelations about these cereals now as a grown man uh you know i change as i go through life and my reaction every few years is different than the previous occasion so i determined that while life i still enjoy the taste and it's lower sugar than the others um there was some digestive instability what did you get the runs
the company just say life okay life cereal now i did some experimenting and i had some revelations about these cereals now as a grown man uh you know i change as i go through life and my reaction every few years is different than the previous occasion so i determined that while life i still enjoy the taste and it's lower sugar than the others um there was some digestive instability what did you get the runs
Sometimes you feel stable in the gastrointestinal tract and sometimes you don't.
Sometimes you feel stable in the gastrointestinal tract and sometimes you don't.
There was no violent reaction. I'm aware of the subtleties of my body. You see, I look deep beneath the surface.
There was no violent reaction. I'm aware of the subtleties of my body. You see, I look deep beneath the surface.
If that's your face. I don't need a violent explosion to tell me something is wrong. I know I can detect subtleties in my body and my own digestion. Well, how subtle was it? You may not have even noticed it, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm not sitting, I'm not hanging out by your toilet.
If that's your face. I don't need a violent explosion to tell me something is wrong. I know I can detect subtleties in my body and my own digestion. Well, how subtle was it? You may not have even noticed it, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm not sitting, I'm not hanging out by your toilet.
I said there were digestive instabilities. Digestive instability usually means one thing. For you it does, because you're a man of extremes, okay? So you hear this and you imagine... You imagine a man on a toilet bowl, you know, beat red face, sweat flying off his body.
I said there were digestive instabilities. Digestive instability usually means one thing. For you it does, because you're a man of extremes, okay? So you hear this and you imagine... You imagine a man on a toilet bowl, you know, beat red face, sweat flying off his body.
What I'm telling you is, do you need to know this particulars? Isn't the fact that there's digestive instability already a red flag to stay away from life cereal? Again, no, no offense to the Quaker Road Company. This was only my company.
What I'm telling you is, do you need to know this particulars? Isn't the fact that there's digestive instability already a red flag to stay away from life cereal? Again, no, no offense to the Quaker Road Company. This was only my company.
What I'm saying is I prize my gastrointestinal stability. I like to have certain conditions. I like to feel empty, light, okay? Light on my feet. I don't want to be bloated.
What I'm saying is I prize my gastrointestinal stability. I like to have certain conditions. I like to feel empty, light, okay? Light on my feet. I don't want to be bloated.
There's a pressure. It's a subtle pressure. OK, you feel a pressure in your bowel. Yeah, sometimes. And it's very subtle. OK, it's not that subtle. So the problem is when you have when you have this pressure, it desensitizes the bowel to what normal pressure should feel like. Anyway, regardless, let's move on from that. So I eliminated.
There's a pressure. It's a subtle pressure. OK, you feel a pressure in your bowel. Yeah, sometimes. And it's very subtle. OK, it's not that subtle. So the problem is when you have when you have this pressure, it desensitizes the bowel to what normal pressure should feel like. Anyway, regardless, let's move on from that. So I eliminated.
In my case, there was some digestive instability.
In my case, there was some digestive instability.
An unstable, subtle pressure. OK, so I rejected life cereal from the running, although I did enjoy the taste. And there are some people that may be completely stable. I can't speak for your own experience. OK, so I put life aside. Now, Fruit Loops was not as great as I remembered it. In the end, I found it monotonous. The Fruit Loops, it was a one one tone.
An unstable, subtle pressure. OK, so I rejected life cereal from the running, although I did enjoy the taste. And there are some people that may be completely stable. I can't speak for your own experience. OK, so I put life aside. Now, Fruit Loops was not as great as I remembered it. In the end, I found it monotonous. The Fruit Loops, it was a one one tone.
And what really surprised me was fruit was Lucky Charms. Let me talk a little bit about luck.
And what really surprised me was fruit was Lucky Charms. Let me talk a little bit about luck.
Here's my take on Lucky Charms. OK, first of all, I remove half the marshmallows. I found that there are too many marshmallows as a stock. No, no, no. There's too many. No good thing.
Here's my take on Lucky Charms. OK, first of all, I remove half the marshmallows. I found that there are too many marshmallows as a stock. No, no, no. There's too many. No good thing.
Now, they are made with General Mills, and I recognize... Stop mentioning the names of the companies! I recognized that the flavor of the non-marshmallow part was very familiar to me. And then I realized they're Cheerios. They're Honey Nut Cheerios. They are sweetened Cheerios plus marshmallows. Same company, same ingredients of the non-marshmallow portion. You know what I'm saying?
Now, they are made with General Mills, and I recognize... Stop mentioning the names of the companies! I recognized that the flavor of the non-marshmallow part was very familiar to me. And then I realized they're Cheerios. They're Honey Nut Cheerios. They are sweetened Cheerios plus marshmallows. Same company, same ingredients of the non-marshmallow portion. You know what I'm saying?
You just blew the lid off this thing. Because I did. And if you remove half of the marshmallows and you eat Lucky Charms, you're eating Cheerios, sweetened Cheerios, plus some extra bonus marshmallows. Let me see this. Here we go. Lucky charms. All right. Here's lucky charms. Take out half the marshmallows.
You just blew the lid off this thing. Because I did. And if you remove half of the marshmallows and you eat Lucky Charms, you're eating Cheerios, sweetened Cheerios, plus some extra bonus marshmallows. Let me see this. Here we go. Lucky charms. All right. Here's lucky charms. Take out half the marshmallows.
And you know what? I spent no time on it. Yeah. And it's got something dirty in it, so everyone's going to remember it. Yeah, I feel mine is superior. Okay, but the point is, you're still bitter that you lost that Guinness contest. Yeah, yes.
And you know what? I spent no time on it. Yeah. And it's got something dirty in it, so everyone's going to remember it. Yeah, I feel mine is superior. Okay, but the point is, you're still bitter that you lost that Guinness contest. Yeah, yes.
Let's get out of here. There's nothing to eat.
Let's get out of here. There's nothing to eat.
No. My people fled in 1982. The line at Burger King was too long.
No. My people fled in 1982. The line at Burger King was too long.
Not at all. No, those were like massive battleships. Mm hmm. You know, you hit it with the champagne, they slide into the ocean, then they have a storied career on the high seas defending England or America or whatever country manufactured the ship. This, I don't know, this is the emission of a little gas, maybe from like a broken down machine.
Not at all. No, those were like massive battleships. Mm hmm. You know, you hit it with the champagne, they slide into the ocean, then they have a storied career on the high seas defending England or America or whatever country manufactured the ship. This, I don't know, this is the emission of a little gas, maybe from like a broken down machine.
We got to get out of here. Let's get to Brookline, Mass.
We got to get out of here. Let's get to Brookline, Mass.
They flew over on Aer Lingus. Aer Lingus, that'd be funny in a limerick. Also dirty. Hey, listen, I thought you did a good job with the ad overall. Thanks. This ad? Yeah.
They flew over on Aer Lingus. Aer Lingus, that'd be funny in a limerick. Also dirty. Hey, listen, I thought you did a good job with the ad overall. Thanks. This ad? Yeah.
Yeah, you did a fine job. We're going to take a little break. When we return, Jordan and I will have a deep philosophical discussion. Don't touch that dial. All right, I'm going to move on to our next segment. Conan and Jordan discuss a philosophical question. Frank, why don't you tell us what you had in mind here?
Yeah, you did a fine job. We're going to take a little break. When we return, Jordan and I will have a deep philosophical discussion. Don't touch that dial. All right, I'm going to move on to our next segment. Conan and Jordan discuss a philosophical question. Frank, why don't you tell us what you had in mind here?
Can I stop you before you get boring? Oh, wait, I'd need a time machine for that.
Can I stop you before you get boring? Oh, wait, I'd need a time machine for that.
I'd have to go back nine minutes ago to the start of your day.
I'd have to go back nine minutes ago to the start of your day.
Blammo! You just got blammoed. My question would be, is sports betting allowed? If sports betting allowed, then definitely. Let's have that. Let's go back in time. I could clean up. Then you make a lot of money. Then you go back further in time when land is really cheap. You go to Long Island and you say, hey there, 1680 farmer, what do you want for these nine acres on the ocean?
Blammo! You just got blammoed. My question would be, is sports betting allowed? If sports betting allowed, then definitely. Let's have that. Let's go back in time. I could clean up. Then you make a lot of money. Then you go back further in time when land is really cheap. You go to Long Island and you say, hey there, 1680 farmer, what do you want for these nine acres on the ocean?
These nine acres, why, I would wish to have $6. $6, eh? Here's $16.
These nine acres, why, I would wish to have $6. $6, eh? Here's $16.
Well, thank you.
Well, thank you.
Yep. That's what you would do.
Yep. That's what you would do.
I'd go to Ford's Theater and I'd say, hey, Abe, behind you. I'd save Abraham Lincoln's life.
I'd go to Ford's Theater and I'd say, hey, Abe, behind you. I'd save Abraham Lincoln's life.
I would go back in time.
I would go back in time.
I don't want to have just one.
I don't want to have just one.
Jurassic Park and I think they probably got it right so I don't need to see that and I wouldn't go to the Roman times because I saw Gladiator and I think that's a good I think most movies have pretty accurately depicted what those times were like and I think if I go back in time it's going to look like that only a little dirtier like people's togas will be dirty and I'll be like ah this sort of sucks so I don't want to see that so um nah I don't want to see that stuff I really just want to go to Ford Cedar and go hey Abe heads up
Jurassic Park and I think they probably got it right so I don't need to see that and I wouldn't go to the Roman times because I saw Gladiator and I think that's a good I think most movies have pretty accurately depicted what those times were like and I think if I go back in time it's going to look like that only a little dirtier like people's togas will be dirty and I'll be like ah this sort of sucks so I don't want to see that so um nah I don't want to see that stuff I really just want to go to Ford Cedar and go hey Abe heads up
But still, it's something that's happening, and we have to respect it.
But still, it's something that's happening, and we have to respect it.
Because you know what? I'll tell you this. Abe Lincoln was 6'4", my height, and a strong backwoodsman. He would have turned around. Booth was a relatively small guy and an actor. I've interviewed enough of them to know that they're pretty easy to take in a fight. So he would just clean Booth's clock. That would be fun. Abe would just be wailing on Booth.
Because you know what? I'll tell you this. Abe Lincoln was 6'4", my height, and a strong backwoodsman. He would have turned around. Booth was a relatively small guy and an actor. I've interviewed enough of them to know that they're pretty easy to take in a fight. So he would just clean Booth's clock. That would be fun. Abe would just be wailing on Booth.
I would have witnessed the ultimate beatdown. Abe Blinken kicks the shit out of some little actor, takes his Derringer away and kicks the shit out of him, then throws him off the balcony. And then all the actors that are starring in the play our American cousin starring Laura Keen, they all start kicking Booth.
I would have witnessed the ultimate beatdown. Abe Blinken kicks the shit out of some little actor, takes his Derringer away and kicks the shit out of him, then throws him off the balcony. And then all the actors that are starring in the play our American cousin starring Laura Keen, they all start kicking Booth.
Did you just say that I've had you inside me?
Did you just say that I've had you inside me?
Stop. Don't ever say that again. Don't ever say that again. I don't want you inside me.
Stop. Don't ever say that again. Don't ever say that again. I don't want you inside me.
Don't ever say that. Don't ever say that again. Don't ever, ever say I'm inside you again.
Don't ever say that. Don't ever say that again. Don't ever, ever say I'm inside you again.
We can't spread anything. Is there any kind of press release that I need to approve or anything like that? I don't even think we can afford that, and I'm told they're free. So, no. And first of all, you've so far been just asking a series of questions, and I've indulged you, but let me get a little bit of stuff out.
We can't spread anything. Is there any kind of press release that I need to approve or anything like that? I don't even think we can afford that, and I'm told they're free. So, no. And first of all, you've so far been just asking a series of questions, and I've indulged you, but let me get a little bit of stuff out.
I've seen you at your best.
I've seen you at your best.
If we're inside each other, then it is intimate. Yeah. And that's hard to do too. Think of the geometry of that one.
If we're inside each other, then it is intimate. Yeah. And that's hard to do too. Think of the geometry of that one.
I'm not going to take away future. I'm just going to say past. Oh, past.
I'm not going to take away future. I'm just going to say past. Oh, past.
So we have to talk to the dinosaurs first and say, leave that guy alone over there.
So we have to talk to the dinosaurs first and say, leave that guy alone over there.
If you go back there, you have to take that into account. Yes, I do. There's a good chance. I mean, if and I could see you being very irritating to a Brontosaurus. I could see a Brontosaurus being like, I just fucking hate that guy.
If you go back there, you have to take that into account. Yes, I do. There's a good chance. I mean, if and I could see you being very irritating to a Brontosaurus. I could see a Brontosaurus being like, I just fucking hate that guy.
Oh, it's not. Now you're just saying. Of course, the Latin for lizard. You're just saying shit. It's not Brontosaurus.
Oh, it's not. Now you're just saying. Of course, the Latin for lizard. You're just saying shit. It's not Brontosaurus.
Just talk over me. That's fine.
Just talk over me. That's fine.
Say how you pronounce brontosaurus again. Brontosaurus. Okay. You need to be hit. I'm not going to say with steel rods because that's, but with a denser wood, like a wood, but it's a dense wood, like a mahogany. You need to be hit with mahogany. Okay. Because no one says that.
Say how you pronounce brontosaurus again. Brontosaurus. Okay. You need to be hit. I'm not going to say with steel rods because that's, but with a denser wood, like a wood, but it's a dense wood, like a mahogany. You need to be hit with mahogany. Okay. Because no one says that.
Even a brontosaurus, if it just heard that, would put both of its giant paws in front of its eyes and just be like, oh my God, what a dick. No, it's not. How do you say pterodactyl?
Even a brontosaurus, if it just heard that, would put both of its giant paws in front of its eyes and just be like, oh my God, what a dick. No, it's not. How do you say pterodactyl?
Why do you say these things like Dracula?
Why do you say these things like Dracula?
Well, you don't have to announce everything. It's the Conan Jordan Show. It's the second episode. This is where you and I talk. And people do all the time ask me, how's Jordan doing? I want more Conan Jordan. You know that our videos are a massive hit on YouTube, various other sundry places, the websites. People love them. They can't get enough. They want more. Well, now we're giving them more.
Well, you don't have to announce everything. It's the Conan Jordan Show. It's the second episode. This is where you and I talk. And people do all the time ask me, how's Jordan doing? I want more Conan Jordan. You know that our videos are a massive hit on YouTube, various other sundry places, the websites. People love them. They can't get enough. They want more. Well, now we're giving them more.
Go back to Making Love, Adding Nothing at All. Go visit the dinosaurs. That's my request. Go back and visit the dinosaurs and just sort of stand around and see what happens, okay? And if you get stomped or crushed, that's just what happens.
Go back to Making Love, Adding Nothing at All. Go visit the dinosaurs. That's my request. Go back and visit the dinosaurs and just sort of stand around and see what happens, okay? And if you get stomped or crushed, that's just what happens.
No, I'm an alumnus of Harvard University. Are we going to say it correctly or not?
No, I'm an alumnus of Harvard University. Are we going to say it correctly or not?
Harvard University.
Harvard University.
If you're going to say it, just say it.
If you're going to say it, just say it.
Nope. I gave a great speech.
Nope. I gave a great speech.
I also had a falcon on my shoulder. Yeah.
I also had a falcon on my shoulder. Yeah.
That's all I'm saying. Well, if an animal is someone who eats fast food, then call me an animal and call most Americans an animal. I love the United States of America. I really do love this country. And for you to attack it that way, I think, is not just scandalous, but treasonous.
That's all I'm saying. Well, if an animal is someone who eats fast food, then call me an animal and call most Americans an animal. I love the United States of America. I really do love this country. And for you to attack it that way, I think, is not just scandalous, but treasonous.
This is insane.
This is insane.
You're whimpering in the corner eating Ritz. We're ending it here. You know what you've had? You've had a complete breakdown today. And I can tell always because you get a fiendish look on your eyes. Your eyes arch up. You start to smile. That's my face.
You're whimpering in the corner eating Ritz. We're ending it here. You know what you've had? You've had a complete breakdown today. And I can tell always because you get a fiendish look on your eyes. Your eyes arch up. You start to smile. That's my face.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
And then you lost your mind. You started spiraling on the word cracker. And you lost it. You flamed out. And now a bunch of men are rushing up to you and pouring foam over you so that you don't burn to death. Jordan. This was a great episode. It was a great episode because you came out of the gate hot and then you ended up in this spectacular explosion. I feel sorry for you.
And then you lost your mind. You started spiraling on the word cracker. And you lost it. You flamed out. And now a bunch of men are rushing up to you and pouring foam over you so that you don't burn to death. Jordan. This was a great episode. It was a great episode because you came out of the gate hot and then you ended up in this spectacular explosion. I feel sorry for you.
I feel sorry for anyone who's in your life. But I also love you. And when I say I love you, I'm lying. It's just not true. Anyway, this has been episode two of the Conan and Jordan show. I think one of the most fascinating shows in the history of any medium. It's unrehearsed. We never know what we're going to talk about. And we just play with this spinning top that is Jordan Schlansky.
I feel sorry for anyone who's in your life. But I also love you. And when I say I love you, I'm lying. It's just not true. Anyway, this has been episode two of the Conan and Jordan show. I think one of the most fascinating shows in the history of any medium. It's unrehearsed. We never know what we're going to talk about. And we just play with this spinning top that is Jordan Schlansky.
And what better way to experience us than while you're driving around, maybe in your rental car or at home listening to Sirius XM. This is the way to do it. People listen to the Conan O'Brien channel. They want to hear this stuff, you know. So it's you and I together. How are you feeling about it?
And what better way to experience us than while you're driving around, maybe in your rental car or at home listening to Sirius XM. This is the way to do it. People listen to the Conan O'Brien channel. They want to hear this stuff, you know. So it's you and I together. How are you feeling about it?
It's just Stratocaster. It's not Stratocaster. We just said the same thing. Second of all, I did ask him. We talked about it as he was getting into his car because the magic moments for me aren't captured, okay? You greedily want me to spill that kind of stuff into a microphone. I walked Billy to his car. It was Acura and massive dent, the back bumper.
It's just Stratocaster. It's not Stratocaster. We just said the same thing. Second of all, I did ask him. We talked about it as he was getting into his car because the magic moments for me aren't captured, okay? You greedily want me to spill that kind of stuff into a microphone. I walked Billy to his car. It was Acura and massive dent, the back bumper.
And I asked him that question and he told me the answer, but that's the kind of thing I can't share.
And I asked him that question and he told me the answer, but that's the kind of thing I can't share.
I asked him what I was interested in. And I also knew that he'd tell me when we walked him to his Acura and he did. So I was satisfied.
I asked him what I was interested in. And I also knew that he'd tell me when we walked him to his Acura and he did. So I was satisfied.
Wait a minute, the song St. Elmo's Fire? Okay. Do you like that song?
Wait a minute, the song St. Elmo's Fire? Okay. Do you like that song?
They were in their 20s. Don't anger me when people call people teens when they're 25, 26, sometimes some of them pushing 30. Emilio Estevez was 44 years old when he starred in that movie.
They were in their 20s. Don't anger me when people call people teens when they're 25, 26, sometimes some of them pushing 30. Emilio Estevez was 44 years old when he starred in that movie.
But I figured it out. I figured it out. Tell me the lyrics.
But I figured it out. I figured it out. Tell me the lyrics.
I can't conjure the song. I can't conjure the song. I can see a new horizon underneath the blazing sky. Hold on.
I can't conjure the song. I can't conjure the song. I can see a new horizon underneath the blazing sky. Hold on.
Everything on the Internet is a life well spent. Here we go. You got to get to the end. We're going to listen to this part first. Okay, this is, I remember this. The first note is up cut. Famous production error. I think the year was 1985. I'm in the theater.
Everything on the Internet is a life well spent. Here we go. You got to get to the end. We're going to listen to this part first. Okay, this is, I remember this. The first note is up cut. Famous production error. I think the year was 1985. I'm in the theater.
What kind of polling did you do to determine the success of the first episode? I've looked at no data. I've talked to no one. I live pretty much a secluded, strange life. But I know deep in my heart that this thing's a smash hit. So much so that, look, we have our own sign now, the Conan and Jordan show. Now, I was under the impression that the previous recording session was an audition of sorts.
What kind of polling did you do to determine the success of the first episode? I've looked at no data. I've talked to no one. I live pretty much a secluded, strange life. But I know deep in my heart that this thing's a smash hit. So much so that, look, we have our own sign now, the Conan and Jordan show. Now, I was under the impression that the previous recording session was an audition of sorts.
Settle down. You're kind of revving.
Settle down. You're kind of revving.
All right, we just got canceled. But they just let me know.
All right, we just got canceled. But they just let me know.
I'm going to ask you to do me a favor, Jordan. When I hold up my hand like this, you're going to have to stop talking. Because otherwise you just wash over me and you're a little out of control right now. We had a nice conversation going. And then you brought up this song, Man in Motion, the theme song for St. Elmo's Fire, which is a bullshit song.
I'm going to ask you to do me a favor, Jordan. When I hold up my hand like this, you're going to have to stop talking. Because otherwise you just wash over me and you're a little out of control right now. We had a nice conversation going. And then you brought up this song, Man in Motion, the theme song for St. Elmo's Fire, which is a bullshit song.
You're saying that a great song has an inconsequential opening? That's not a great song. A great song, by definition, has a great beginning.
You're saying that a great song has an inconsequential opening? That's not a great song. A great song, by definition, has a great beginning.
I forgot that the universal sign of good hearing is being able to determine and remember the lyrics to Man in Motion.
I forgot that the universal sign of good hearing is being able to determine and remember the lyrics to Man in Motion.
Hey, you think I'm an A-lister?
Hey, you think I'm an A-lister?
I can climb the highest mountain.
I can climb the highest mountain.
Okay, stop, because I don't care. Tell me what the last lyric... No, I'm not going to tell you.
Okay, stop, because I don't care. Tell me what the last lyric... No, I'm not going to tell you.
He's a philanthropist, but he can't give his music away. Look at that face. Oh, man, you got served, owned. Jordan, you're a terrible person. And our time away from each other has been a salve for my tattered soul. We're together again because the public demands it. We have our own show. And you completely commandeered it right up top to make us listen to that piece of mid-80s crap.
He's a philanthropist, but he can't give his music away. Look at that face. Oh, man, you got served, owned. Jordan, you're a terrible person. And our time away from each other has been a salve for my tattered soul. We're together again because the public demands it. We have our own show. And you completely commandeered it right up top to make us listen to that piece of mid-80s crap.
What's the power balance on this show, if it is, in fact, ours? Well, let's take a look at the order of the names. The Conan and Jordan show.
What's the power balance on this show, if it is, in fact, ours? Well, let's take a look at the order of the names. The Conan and Jordan show.
Yeah, big Conan and then sort of little scripted Jordan. I think you understand what the power balance is here. You're here because I allow you to be here. You live because I allow you to live. And maybe you're just someone that I imagined and you think you have a life. But the minute I stop thinking about you, you'll disappear. Fascinating. So let's talk. Man in motion.
Yeah, big Conan and then sort of little scripted Jordan. I think you understand what the power balance is here. You're here because I allow you to be here. You live because I allow you to live. And maybe you're just someone that I imagined and you think you have a life. But the minute I stop thinking about you, you'll disappear. Fascinating. So let's talk. Man in motion.
Oh, God, no. No, we use... every part of the Buffalo here. We can't waste anything. So no, that was not an audition. That was the first episode.
Oh, God, no. No, we use... every part of the Buffalo here. We can't waste anything. So no, that was not an audition. That was the first episode.
I do encourage the listeners to try and discern the last part of the song because that's an important use of everyone's time.
I do encourage the listeners to try and discern the last part of the song because that's an important use of everyone's time.
I think what people will take from this is. is a newfound hatred for you. They thought they hated you before, but now they're going to go look. Before it was, if I cross paths with Jordan, I'll smash his face. Now it's going to be, I've got to find out where that fucker is, and I need to take him out at the knees. That's what it's going to be now.
I think what people will take from this is. is a newfound hatred for you. They thought they hated you before, but now they're going to go look. Before it was, if I cross paths with Jordan, I'll smash his face. Now it's going to be, I've got to find out where that fucker is, and I need to take him out at the knees. That's what it's going to be now.
It'll be the first thing out of my mouth. Okay. Okay? I promise it. I'll write it on my hand. Yeah. All right? Swear to God. Go ahead. Usually it's how are you? Yeah. I like to try and ease into it. Small talk. Yeah, I understand. That makes people feel comfortable. Are you comfortable? Yeah. That's all. That's my technique. But as a robot, you would know that. You have your own techniques.
It'll be the first thing out of my mouth. Okay. Okay? I promise it. I'll write it on my hand. Yeah. All right? Swear to God. Go ahead. Usually it's how are you? Yeah. I like to try and ease into it. Small talk. Yeah, I understand. That makes people feel comfortable. Are you comfortable? Yeah. That's all. That's my technique. But as a robot, you would know that. You have your own techniques.
Jordan, this is what we have to do. We have to do a quick commercial. The sponsor now is Lady Crackers. Oh, yes. Why don't you just give an ad for Lady Crackers right now and just make it up as you go. Lady Crackers, Los Angeles, olive oil and sea salt.
Jordan, this is what we have to do. We have to do a quick commercial. The sponsor now is Lady Crackers. Oh, yes. Why don't you just give an ad for Lady Crackers right now and just make it up as you go. Lady Crackers, Los Angeles, olive oil and sea salt.
Can I just confirm? Can I confirm? One second. Can I confirm? Frank, he had no idea what I was going to hand him. No idea. This is not written. There's no copy. There's no copy. This is absolute. What are you doing? How are you able to do that?
Can I just confirm? Can I confirm? One second. Can I confirm? Frank, he had no idea what I was going to hand him. No idea. This is not written. There's no copy. There's no copy. This is absolute. What are you doing? How are you able to do that?
Did you say grapeseed?
Did you say grapeseed?
Don't talk that way on this program. What are you talking about? That's awful.
Don't talk that way on this program. What are you talking about? That's awful.
Let's get back to, you know, the sponsor is going to want to hear their product name and a little more about the product rather than a list of every oil that exists. Yeah.
Let's get back to, you know, the sponsor is going to want to hear their product name and a little more about the product rather than a list of every oil that exists. Yeah.
Would you like to taste one? Why don't you open it up and taste one? It's okay. Could you please? I typically try to avoid. Would you please? Yeah. It's okay. Would you please? Avoid. Please. Yeah.
Would you like to taste one? Why don't you open it up and taste one? It's okay. Could you please? I typically try to avoid. Would you please? Yeah. It's okay. Would you please? Avoid. Please. Yeah.
I would tear that.
I would tear that.
That's a fine pitch. I'm going to do you one better. Lady and Larder. I want a cracker at night, and I want one with a clean crunch.
That's a fine pitch. I'm going to do you one better. Lady and Larder. I want a cracker at night, and I want one with a clean crunch.
Mmm.
Mmm.
That gives you that Lady and Larder crackle, the munch crunch that makes you happy a whole bunch. That's why I like Lady and Larder. Lady and Larder, tear that box open, rip them tabs, and slam that cracker down your puss. And remember, if any crumbs go astray, use your tongue. Get it outside your face and lick them up.
That gives you that Lady and Larder crackle, the munch crunch that makes you happy a whole bunch. That's why I like Lady and Larder. Lady and Larder, tear that box open, rip them tabs, and slam that cracker down your puss. And remember, if any crumbs go astray, use your tongue. Get it outside your face and lick them up.
Nobody. Nobody has. I've run this up the flagpole. It's serious. And they said, we don't have a flagpole and we're not taking your call.
Nobody. Nobody has. I've run this up the flagpole. It's serious. And they said, we don't have a flagpole and we're not taking your call.
Keep that tongue outside your head. It's a good way to get those crumbs.
Keep that tongue outside your head. It's a good way to get those crumbs.
Lady and louder. Now with more of the good stuff that you love. Get it now! What do you think? Good answer? Well, you know, we have different approaches. Yeah. You talked in a very depressed way for a while and then said, seems like kind of a high sodium content.
Lady and louder. Now with more of the good stuff that you love. Get it now! What do you think? Good answer? Well, you know, we have different approaches. Yeah. You talked in a very depressed way for a while and then said, seems like kind of a high sodium content.
It's the clean crunch that gives you a munch and I love it a bunch.
It's the clean crunch that gives you a munch and I love it a bunch.
See the way it rhymes?
See the way it rhymes?
Yeah.
Yeah.
People love that in an ad. They're not going to remember your sodium content quip, but they're going to remember my- Do you have an idea for a jingle for this? Do you want to sing a little song?
People love that in an ad. They're not going to remember your sodium content quip, but they're going to remember my- Do you have an idea for a jingle for this? Do you want to sing a little song?
All right, well, welcome to the Conan and Jordan show. This is our second episode. I have to be honest with you, Jordan, I didn't think we'd get to a second episode. Yeah. Because during the last one, I'm just being honest, I wanted to smash your face into powder. But... We made it. We're here. And this is by popular demand. People love the Conan and Jordan show.
All right, well, welcome to the Conan and Jordan show. This is our second episode. I have to be honest with you, Jordan, I didn't think we'd get to a second episode. Yeah. Because during the last one, I'm just being honest, I wanted to smash your face into powder. But... We made it. We're here. And this is by popular demand. People love the Conan and Jordan show.
Yeah, and I live with a leprechaun.
Yeah, and I live with a leprechaun.
And I just ate a four-leaf clover for lunch.
And I just ate a four-leaf clover for lunch.
Do you remember it?
Do you remember it?
30 years ago now.
30 years ago now.
That's good. Yeah, that is. That's very good.
That's good. Yeah, that is. That's very good.
There was an old man from Nantucket who wanted his young friend to suck it. He said, Guinness, I said, I didn't mean your head. And then the guy kicked the bucket. I just made that up.
There was an old man from Nantucket who wanted his young friend to suck it. He said, Guinness, I said, I didn't mean your head. And then the guy kicked the bucket. I just made that up.
There are many sides to me. And I think he would appreciate some of that. First of all, I don't care if he would appreciate them because I have no interest in bonding with him. Nevertheless. That's so rude.
There are many sides to me. And I think he would appreciate some of that. First of all, I don't care if he would appreciate them because I have no interest in bonding with him. Nevertheless. That's so rude.
My birthday passed two months ago. I was being polite. Now listen to me.
My birthday passed two months ago. I was being polite. Now listen to me.
What fool in this room told Geddy Lee that my birthday was right now and I have to play along like a jackass because I'm not going to be the asshole that tells him, no, you're wrong. That's going nowhere. Well, you did tell him. You did tell him it passed. Well, I was polite. You told him it passed. That's the best I can do. I'm not going to flat out.
What fool in this room told Geddy Lee that my birthday was right now and I have to play along like a jackass because I'm not going to be the asshole that tells him, no, you're wrong. That's going nowhere. Well, you did tell him. You did tell him it passed. Well, I was polite. You told him it passed. That's the best I can do. I'm not going to flat out.
So what?
So what?
He came within a sixth.
He came within a sixth.
What I'm saying is the man likes wine. OK, he has a preference for French wine. My I have a preference for Italian wine. Nevertheless, there are things that we could connect on. Should either of us want to? I don't want to. I don't want to. No, stop saying that. No offense to them. And I enjoy listening to his music and I enjoy listening to him speak.
What I'm saying is the man likes wine. OK, he has a preference for French wine. My I have a preference for Italian wine. Nevertheless, there are things that we could connect on. Should either of us want to? I don't want to. I don't want to. No, stop saying that. No offense to them. And I enjoy listening to his music and I enjoy listening to him speak.
But I don't make any pretense that him and I would ever go hang out. Nor would I. I'm an introvert. I fear human interaction. I avoid it.
But I don't make any pretense that him and I would ever go hang out. Nor would I. I'm an introvert. I fear human interaction. I avoid it.
Yeah, I have one human being here and some nice gentleman over here, but I'm not talking to large quantities of people.
Yeah, I have one human being here and some nice gentleman over here, but I'm not talking to large quantities of people.
Some say the language of music is older than the word language itself. Music is a great unifier, much like food. OK, when we all disagree on so many things, we all appreciate music. I go one step further. I like to have the best version of music to listen to. I like my music to sound as good as possible. Back in the 70s, when you were growing up, you might have called me a hi-fi guy.
Some say the language of music is older than the word language itself. Music is a great unifier, much like food. OK, when we all disagree on so many things, we all appreciate music. I go one step further. I like to have the best version of music to listen to. I like my music to sound as good as possible. Back in the 70s, when you were growing up, you might have called me a hi-fi guy.
OK, first of all, of course, I would be polite. Secondly, if I walk by, wouldn't you be honored if I walked by and he didn't recognize me and he was sitting there? I would absolutely not approach him either before or after this experience. OK, I would give the man his space. I have no interest. It doesn't do anything. I'd rather go home, put my headphones on at 3 a.m.
OK, first of all, of course, I would be polite. Secondly, if I walk by, wouldn't you be honored if I walked by and he didn't recognize me and he was sitting there? I would absolutely not approach him either before or after this experience. OK, I would give the man his space. I have no interest. It doesn't do anything. I'd rather go home, put my headphones on at 3 a.m.
and listen to my favorite pressing of moving pictures and get lost in it than sit down at a cafe with a man that clearly wanted to be alone.
and listen to my favorite pressing of moving pictures and get lost in it than sit down at a cafe with a man that clearly wanted to be alone.
You know, I find that... Well, you and I are different. Maybe you're somehow consumed by the idea of fame. Nope. And also fame doesn't interest me at all. And also, as you'll know, a lot of artists, he's actually a very friendly, gregarious man with great social skills.
You know, I find that... Well, you and I are different. Maybe you're somehow consumed by the idea of fame. Nope. And also fame doesn't interest me at all. And also, as you'll know, a lot of artists, he's actually a very friendly, gregarious man with great social skills.
But there are many artists are kind of at the other end of the spectrum and are more introverted like myself and don't necessarily want to connect with people. Of course, they do it out of obligation to their fan base. But yeah, so I don't need to impose myself.
But there are many artists are kind of at the other end of the spectrum and are more introverted like myself and don't necessarily want to connect with people. Of course, they do it out of obligation to their fan base. But yeah, so I don't need to impose myself.
Fumpfering, you wanted fumpfering. That to you shows that, wow, I've done well. You've got the fumpfering from me. I'm saying I saw him. I acknowledged him. I understood. You acknowledged him. I understood the situation.
Fumpfering, you wanted fumpfering. That to you shows that, wow, I've done well. You've got the fumpfering from me. I'm saying I saw him. I acknowledged him. I understood. You acknowledged him. I understood the situation.
I didn't expect him to know. I wouldn't expect that's not his job. He passes that off to other people. I don't have access to those other people. You put you put him up on a screen. So he's the man I made my case to. If you put the head of their catalog up on screen, I would have made a better case to them.
I didn't expect him to know. I wouldn't expect that's not his job. He passes that off to other people. I don't have access to those other people. You put you put him up on a screen. So he's the man I made my case to. If you put the head of their catalog up on screen, I would have made a better case to them.
Yeah, I do it regularly as part of my career.
Yeah, I do it regularly as part of my career.
Yeah, I do. I'm a huge fan of the show. I was happy to work on it for so long because I was a fan of it. But I'm going to say very clearly, I have no interest in famous people simply because they're famous.
Yeah, I do. I'm a huge fan of the show. I was happy to work on it for so long because I was a fan of it. But I'm going to say very clearly, I have no interest in famous people simply because they're famous.
That thought does occur to me based on situations that happen around me. But I don't reject you or accept you simply because you're famous. I don't seek out famous people. I don't feel any more exhilaration talking to a famous person than a non-famous person. Liar! Now, there are some famous people that I am infatuated with that I've never met.
That thought does occur to me based on situations that happen around me. But I don't reject you or accept you simply because you're famous. I don't seek out famous people. I don't feel any more exhilaration talking to a famous person than a non-famous person. Liar! Now, there are some famous people that I am infatuated with that I've never met.
OK, Neil Diamond, Tristan Rogers from General Hospital in the 1980s. Jesus, what a list.
OK, Neil Diamond, Tristan Rogers from General Hospital in the 1980s. Jesus, what a list.
I can count on one hand the amount of famous people I was very interested to meet. John Williams, I've met him a number of times. Of course, the famous composer. He was a big one for me. Neil Diamond, I never had the chance to meet. John Ritter, I did meet. Wonderful guy. He was wonderful.
I can count on one hand the amount of famous people I was very interested to meet. John Williams, I've met him a number of times. Of course, the famous composer. He was a big one for me. Neil Diamond, I never had the chance to meet. John Ritter, I did meet. Wonderful guy. He was wonderful.
Oh, I got Tristan Rogers here. Tristan Rogers, Australian. He's Australian. Yes, he certainly has a beautiful voice. I don't know how old he is. 78. OK, that sounds about right. He I modeled my personality after him. I watched General Hospital religiously in the 1980s. It was him. It was John Reilly who played Sean Donnelly, who I met at the Grove once. The late, great John Reilly. Hold it.
Oh, I got Tristan Rogers here. Tristan Rogers, Australian. He's Australian. Yes, he certainly has a beautiful voice. I don't know how old he is. 78. OK, that sounds about right. He I modeled my personality after him. I watched General Hospital religiously in the 1980s. It was him. It was John Reilly who played Sean Donnelly, who I met at the Grove once. The late, great John Reilly. Hold it.
Hold it.
Hold it.
You certainly extrapolated a bit. Okay. I gave you, I think you embellished the core of what I was saying. I just repeated what you said. The man spoke like music. You listen to the words that come out of his mouth and his Australian accent, and he speaks like music. He could play it all. He could play the mystery. He could play the drama, love, anger.
You certainly extrapolated a bit. Okay. I gave you, I think you embellished the core of what I was saying. I just repeated what you said. The man spoke like music. You listen to the words that come out of his mouth and his Australian accent, and he speaks like music. He could play it all. He could play the mystery. He could play the drama, love, anger.
That episode with him and Burt in December 1986, Burt Ramsey, his former police commissioner that betrayed him and became head of the mob, when he yelled at him at the end of that episode, that was like stunning. That changed me.
That episode with him and Burt in December 1986, Burt Ramsey, his former police commissioner that betrayed him and became head of the mob, when he yelled at him at the end of that episode, that was like stunning. That changed me.
There was a time I sought out those old episodes at General Hospital. I tried to get the footage. It was unavailable everywhere. They would put out little retrospectives on VHS. I'm like, Luke and Laura's wedding. No one gives a shit about that. We've all seen it 50 times. I want to see the Aztec treasure. I want to see the Aztec treasure. Asian corner from 1985.
There was a time I sought out those old episodes at General Hospital. I tried to get the footage. It was unavailable everywhere. They would put out little retrospectives on VHS. I'm like, Luke and Laura's wedding. No one gives a shit about that. We've all seen it 50 times. I want to see the Aztec treasure. I want to see the Aztec treasure. Asian corner from 1985.
We talk. That is our that is our venture here. We are here to talk different about this. You interrupt my talking, but that's the whole point. What's different about this pressing? OK, there are many back in the day before things were standardized.
We talk. That is our that is our venture here. We are here to talk different about this. You interrupt my talking, but that's the whole point. What's different about this pressing? OK, there are many back in the day before things were standardized.
And you know what I'm saying? Two months.
And you know what I'm saying? Two months.
I know he doesn't know what the fuck. I'd rather meet Tristan Rogers than getting laid. God damn it. There I said it. I said it. Get Tristan Rodgers. Who's Tristan Rodgers? Get Tristan Rodgers. All right, we're going to get Tristan Rodgers. I want Tristan Rodgers.
I know he doesn't know what the fuck. I'd rather meet Tristan Rogers than getting laid. God damn it. There I said it. I said it. Get Tristan Rodgers. Who's Tristan Rodgers? Get Tristan Rodgers. All right, we're going to get Tristan Rodgers. I want Tristan Rodgers.
That's what you're going to do. First of all, let's pretend that as human beings, we're not influenced by the media figures we're exposed to every day. Like Tony Hopkins said in the Silence of the Lambs, we covet what we see every day around us. OK, I saw him every day shouting. I found him compelling. He had charisma. The charisma that I have, I learned from him.
That's what you're going to do. First of all, let's pretend that as human beings, we're not influenced by the media figures we're exposed to every day. Like Tony Hopkins said in the Silence of the Lambs, we covet what we see every day around us. OK, I saw him every day shouting. I found him compelling. He had charisma. The charisma that I have, I learned from him.
This man is cool as ice. OK, I don't equate somebody's talent by their level of fame, their level of objective fame. OK, he may not be the most famous person in this town, but to me, he's the most compelling. Can I ask you something?
This man is cool as ice. OK, I don't equate somebody's talent by their level of fame, their level of objective fame. OK, he may not be the most famous person in this town, but to me, he's the most compelling. Can I ask you something?
Ah, yes, the ideal, the ignorant ideal. Let me explain to you how human psychology works, okay? Let me explain to you nature and nurture. We are a product of what we are exposed to every day. Now, you can look at this as a negative or you can look at this as empowering. We can choose what we surround ourselves with every day. These things will become part of our personality. You...
Ah, yes, the ideal, the ignorant ideal. Let me explain to you how human psychology works, okay? Let me explain to you nature and nurture. We are a product of what we are exposed to every day. Now, you can look at this as a negative or you can look at this as empowering. We can choose what we surround ourselves with every day. These things will become part of our personality. You...
Yes. This is a spoken word program. Is that correct? Yeah. OK, so I am speaking words. All right. That is what I was told the assignment was. All right. I'm here to complete the assignment. All right. Today, we're going to spend, I don't know, a half hour talking about the difference. Guess what?
Yes. This is a spoken word program. Is that correct? Yeah. OK, so I am speaking words. All right. That is what I was told the assignment was. All right. I'm here to complete the assignment. All right. Today, we're going to spend, I don't know, a half hour talking about the difference. Guess what?
are comprised in part of me because you have been exposed to me. I have rubbed off on you in ways you may or may not be aware of. We are a product of our environment. As strong as we think we are mentally, I'm true to myself. Your self is based on your environment. Every single human being that's around you, every single object becomes part of you. I am a part of you and I will always be.
are comprised in part of me because you have been exposed to me. I have rubbed off on you in ways you may or may not be aware of. We are a product of our environment. As strong as we think we are mentally, I'm true to myself. Your self is based on your environment. Every single human being that's around you, every single object becomes part of you. I am a part of you and I will always be.
Yeah, you're inside me.
Yeah, you're inside me.
These have a very low gain, by the way. You need a very powerful mixer to extrapolate the proper sound. You can use a cloud lifter, though. which a lot of amateur podcasters do. And now they have a new model that has a built-in preamp. They're a little bit longer, they're shiny, and they say short down the side. What I'm saying is the fact that I'm shouting doesn't preclude me from being content.
These have a very low gain, by the way. You need a very powerful mixer to extrapolate the proper sound. You can use a cloud lifter, though. which a lot of amateur podcasters do. And now they have a new model that has a built-in preamp. They're a little bit longer, they're shiny, and they say short down the side. What I'm saying is the fact that I'm shouting doesn't preclude me from being content.
I am a content man.
I am a content man.
Yeah, I apparently am a radio host on Sirius XM.
Yeah, I apparently am a radio host on Sirius XM.
For anyone wondering what it's like to be a radio host, I'll tell you what it's like. There's no change to my life. There are no perks. I'm not even convinced we have a radio show. I've seen clips of it on YouTube. I don't have there's no mug in front of me with the Conan O'Brien show logo that has two meatballs that look like the orange chicken at Panda Express.
For anyone wondering what it's like to be a radio host, I'll tell you what it's like. There's no change to my life. There are no perks. I'm not even convinced we have a radio show. I've seen clips of it on YouTube. I don't have there's no mug in front of me with the Conan O'Brien show logo that has two meatballs that look like the orange chicken at Panda Express.
I don't feel you tell me we have a radio show and you think I'd feel some level of accomplishment to be a radio host. A goal that I never set for myself, but somehow found me. And I just have a normal life. I don't get free things. I don't get special privileges at restaurants. Just for anyone wondering, maybe you aspire to be a radio hosting. You think your life will change.
I don't feel you tell me we have a radio show and you think I'd feel some level of accomplishment to be a radio host. A goal that I never set for myself, but somehow found me. And I just have a normal life. I don't get free things. I don't get special privileges at restaurants. Just for anyone wondering, maybe you aspire to be a radio hosting. You think your life will change.
I'm here to tell you there is zero change.
I'm here to tell you there is zero change.
I'm content. I'm passionate. I appreciate the things you've done to me. I'm self-aware. To you?
I'm content. I'm passionate. I appreciate the things you've done to me. I'm self-aware. To you?
Done to me, for me, with me.
Done to me, for me, with me.
Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate them. I'm passionate about them. Look, people say apathy is the worst insult. If I shout and I'm passionate, don't worry so much about am I angry? Am I happy? Just just be happy that you're evoking a response. And sure, Mussolini shouted and he was just trying to get his point across.
Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate them. I'm passionate about them. Look, people say apathy is the worst insult. If I shout and I'm passionate, don't worry so much about am I angry? Am I happy? Just just be happy that you're evoking a response. And sure, Mussolini shouted and he was just trying to get his point across.
If that's the criteria for being a dictator, then, you know, I think half of the population is guilty.
If that's the criteria for being a dictator, then, you know, I think half of the population is guilty.
He he he happy birthday me two months late and call me by the wrong name. And I again, I wasn't expecting anything out of this interaction. So why do you keep mentioning it? By the way, this interaction, I didn't even know this interaction was going to happen. I don't think you guys have disclosed that. I wasn't aware that this was clear to everyone that you don't know what's
He he he happy birthday me two months late and call me by the wrong name. And I again, I wasn't expecting anything out of this interaction. So why do you keep mentioning it? By the way, this interaction, I didn't even know this interaction was going to happen. I don't think you guys have disclosed that. I wasn't aware that this was clear to everyone that you don't know what's
happening okay yeah I walk I walk into this room I was told to spit in a sit in a different spot than normal okay so there was an agenda clearly but I am fine with the way this interaction when I think I I think he understands now that there is an appreciation of his work yeah on a very grand when asked if he would hang out with you he said fuck no I I don't need to hang out with him yeah
happening okay yeah I walk I walk into this room I was told to spit in a sit in a different spot than normal okay so there was an agenda clearly but I am fine with the way this interaction when I think I I think he understands now that there is an appreciation of his work yeah on a very grand when asked if he would hang out with you he said fuck no I I don't need to hang out with him yeah
You don't have to reject a date that you've not invited on.
You don't have to reject a date that you've not invited on.
It was released on various media, of course. Now, that's very expensive, so keep your greasy fingers off of it. You can touch the case. I don't want it on the disc, okay?
It was released on various media, of course. Now, that's very expensive, so keep your greasy fingers off of it. You can touch the case. I don't want it on the disc, okay?
Well, I've known you for decades, and we've had these experiences before. So basically, I have in a quest. This is actually a very well recorded album and very well mixed a lot of dynamics. But in recent releases, those dynamics are squashed. There's a trend to make digital releases of music sound as loud as possible.
Well, I've known you for decades, and we've had these experiences before. So basically, I have in a quest. This is actually a very well recorded album and very well mixed a lot of dynamics. But in recent releases, those dynamics are squashed. There's a trend to make digital releases of music sound as loud as possible.
OK, nobody wants their song to sound quieter on the radio or on a streaming service compared to the song next to it. You know, your body language makes me feel a bit rushed. This is going to take a while. Okay. Okay.
OK, nobody wants their song to sound quieter on the radio or on a streaming service compared to the song next to it. You know, your body language makes me feel a bit rushed. This is going to take a while. Okay. Okay.
This is not, this is not punchy stuff. This is a slow burn.
This is not, this is not punchy stuff. This is a slow burn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
OK, for anyone that doesn't know, we've been joined by Geddy Lee. I believe your original name was Gary Levy, Toronto, Canada, perhaps a man of Willowdale.
OK, for anyone that doesn't know, we've been joined by Geddy Lee. I believe your original name was Gary Levy, Toronto, Canada, perhaps a man of Willowdale.
I understand. Nevertheless, I appreciate what he's done. And now I want to hear his work in the best way possible. It's really honoring him and his bandmates.
I understand. Nevertheless, I appreciate what he's done. And now I want to hear his work in the best way possible. It's really honoring him and his bandmates.
All right. So I like a dynamic version. Now, my favorite recording or mastering of moving pictures was actually an original Dutch vinyl record. And there is a famous digital rip of that online. And I requested permission to play it on air and I was unable to obtain that permission. Are you feeling are you feeling at all unsafe right now?
All right. So I like a dynamic version. Now, my favorite recording or mastering of moving pictures was actually an original Dutch vinyl record. And there is a famous digital rip of that online. And I requested permission to play it on air and I was unable to obtain that permission. Are you feeling are you feeling at all unsafe right now?
These men and their engineers at Les Studio in Morin Heights, Quebec in 1980, 1981, spent a lot of time to get a certain sound. They experimented with different techniques. Digital technology was new at that time. Their drummer, Neil Peart, wore a microphone taped to his chest to get a drummer's
These men and their engineers at Les Studio in Morin Heights, Quebec in 1980, 1981, spent a lot of time to get a certain sound. They experimented with different techniques. Digital technology was new at that time. Their drummer, Neil Peart, wore a microphone taped to his chest to get a drummer's
And you bring up that iconic song, Tom Sawyer by Rush, that starts our show. I would like to point out that longtime listeners of our show may have noticed something a little different today in that our engineer Eduardo graciously played my preferred mastering of that song. This is not the readily available mastering that any fool would get on a streaming service these days. Any fool?
And you bring up that iconic song, Tom Sawyer by Rush, that starts our show. I would like to point out that longtime listeners of our show may have noticed something a little different today in that our engineer Eduardo graciously played my preferred mastering of that song. This is not the readily available mastering that any fool would get on a streaming service these days. Any fool?
Okay, I have put a lot of time and money into seeking out the best version of all of my favorite music. I have bought probably 20 versions of that album on various media. Great. Well, better that than have your kids go to college. Yeah. These are hobbies. We all have our hobbies. OK. OK. These are benevolent pursuits. You spend your money on various hobbies.
Okay, I have put a lot of time and money into seeking out the best version of all of my favorite music. I have bought probably 20 versions of that album on various media. Great. Well, better that than have your kids go to college. Yeah. These are hobbies. We all have our hobbies. OK. OK. These are benevolent pursuits. You spend your money on various hobbies.
Look, I appreciate the music. I understand that we don't need to know each other in real life. I respect that professional distance. Nevertheless, I appreciate the music. I have... Many things to say, which will go unsaid today and stay for another day.
Look, I appreciate the music. I understand that we don't need to know each other in real life. I respect that professional distance. Nevertheless, I appreciate the music. I have... Many things to say, which will go unsaid today and stay for another day.
Fire away. More so requests than questions. I've educated myself on most of the knowledge base out there. But of course, there are requests, certain material I would like to see. There was a 1990 concert at the Palace of Auburn Hills, Michigan on the Presto tour.
Fire away. More so requests than questions. I've educated myself on most of the knowledge base out there. But of course, there are requests, certain material I would like to see. There was a 1990 concert at the Palace of Auburn Hills, Michigan on the Presto tour.
It was shot by the in-house cameras at the venue and parts of it were released on a special album release a few years ago, but it wasn't the entire concert. I'd like to see the entire concert on video of that Presto show because that was my first concert April 1990.
It was shot by the in-house cameras at the venue and parts of it were released on a special album release a few years ago, but it wasn't the entire concert. I'd like to see the entire concert on video of that Presto show because that was my first concert April 1990.
Yeah, it was released under the name Through the Rabbit Hole. And I understand the artist doesn't necessarily oversee every aspect of this. That would be incredibly tiresome. And that's not his responsibility. His responsibility was to make the music. And then he has the right people that he trusts to take it from there. And I respect that. I'm not requesting that you handle it personally.
Yeah, it was released under the name Through the Rabbit Hole. And I understand the artist doesn't necessarily oversee every aspect of this. That would be incredibly tiresome. And that's not his responsibility. His responsibility was to make the music. And then he has the right people that he trusts to take it from there. And I respect that. I'm not requesting that you handle it personally.
But if it ever comes up in discussions, there is a call for that by the fans. And I would like to see the last some of the later albums such as Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels released in a more dynamic form in 2015. The Abbey Road engineer, Sean McGee, remastered most of their catalog from their Mercury years and then some of the later releases as well. But he never got to those two.
But if it ever comes up in discussions, there is a call for that by the fans. And I would like to see the last some of the later albums such as Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels released in a more dynamic form in 2015. The Abbey Road engineer, Sean McGee, remastered most of their catalog from their Mercury years and then some of the later releases as well. But he never got to those two.
And there isn't really there aren't really good dynamic releases of those. I would like to hear those at some point in the future. Thank you for your time and attention. Dude, you need to send me a list of this stuff.
And there isn't really there aren't really good dynamic releases of those. I would like to hear those at some point in the future. Thank you for your time and attention. Dude, you need to send me a list of this stuff.
Recently passed, yes.
Recently passed, yes.
I believe you have a collection of guitars.
I believe you have a collection of guitars.
I met him a few times. He's incredibly well-spoken. He's enjoyable when you listen to him speak in interviews, just the way he forms words. Those are called sentences, yeah. Yeah, but the way he puts words together in particular. Yeah, that's a sentence. He's a verb. He's an adjective. The man's very intelligent, well-spoken. I enjoy listening to people like that. I don't know.
I met him a few times. He's incredibly well-spoken. He's enjoyable when you listen to him speak in interviews, just the way he forms words. Those are called sentences, yeah. Yeah, but the way he puts words together in particular. Yeah, that's a sentence. He's a verb. He's an adjective. The man's very intelligent, well-spoken. I enjoy listening to people like that. I don't know.
I mean, I listen to him. He seemed like a nice, smart guy, but I think I'm just as intelligent.
I mean, I listen to him. He seemed like a nice, smart guy, but I think I'm just as intelligent.
I think there's a conflation with the idea of fandom. So most people are fans and they feel like they need to meet the person. They need to hang out with the person. I'm a huge fan of Rush, but I don't feel the need to hang out or even meet him. Guess what?
I think there's a conflation with the idea of fandom. So most people are fans and they feel like they need to meet the person. They need to hang out with the person. I'm a huge fan of Rush, but I don't feel the need to hang out or even meet him. Guess what?
Right. Based on this presentation, based on what he was given, I would not want to meet me either. So you understand. What I'm saying is he's seeing a very limited side of me. No, no, no. He's not seeing a limited side of you. That is you. No, he is seeing what was just presented to him. What was just presented to him is you.
Right. Based on this presentation, based on what he was given, I would not want to meet me either. So you understand. What I'm saying is he's seeing a very limited side of me. No, no, no. He's not seeing a limited side of you. That is you. No, he is seeing what was just presented to him. What was just presented to him is you.
See, that's your curse. You bring so much curse, curse, blessing. I say you bring so much joy. You bring so much joy and you have such an extraordinary mind. But your curse is you can't shut it off and you're tortured 24 seven by cracking jokes, by feeling the need to crack jokes to every emotional event that happens.
See, that's your curse. You bring so much curse, curse, blessing. I say you bring so much joy. You bring so much joy and you have such an extraordinary mind. But your curse is you can't shut it off and you're tortured 24 seven by cracking jokes, by feeling the need to crack jokes to every emotional event that happens.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm saying there's a time and a place for everything. There are times that I want gems.
I'm saying there's a time and a place for everything. There are times that I want gems.
You're wearing a nice hat. That's right. One may think after so many decades that your extraordinary mind doesn't necessarily impress me on a daily basis. Even I have thought these things sometimes. But then every once in a while, there's something like the Hot Ones appearance, and I'm newly amazed all over again. fantastic masterclass. Oh, please.
You're wearing a nice hat. That's right. One may think after so many decades that your extraordinary mind doesn't necessarily impress me on a daily basis. Even I have thought these things sometimes. But then every once in a while, there's something like the Hot Ones appearance, and I'm newly amazed all over again. fantastic masterclass. Oh, please.
I mean, there's so there's so much to say about it. I appreciated the show. I appreciated the host. I appreciated a quality of the host that reminded me of you back on the old late night show in that in the late night show, you created a venue to showcase comedy and let that comedy shine, even if in that particular moment, it wasn't you personally shining.
I mean, there's so there's so much to say about it. I appreciated the show. I appreciated the host. I appreciated a quality of the host that reminded me of you back on the old late night show in that in the late night show, you created a venue to showcase comedy and let that comedy shine, even if in that particular moment, it wasn't you personally shining.
They have a great format, very clever in that it disarms the guest and presents more accurate depiction of the true guest. But they also, as much as their format, they're not rigid about their format. And they allowed you they knew you came in with material. Your great strength was you were always there as much or as little as your guest needed you to.
They have a great format, very clever in that it disarms the guest and presents more accurate depiction of the true guest. But they also, as much as their format, they're not rigid about their format. And they allowed you they knew you came in with material. Your great strength was you were always there as much or as little as your guest needed you to.
So if you had someone like Martin Short and Tom Hanks that came with material, you knew when to shut up and kind of let them do their thing. And if you're with someone that needed some assistance, you were there to give some support. And I think it's kind of the same thing. He knew that you came with material and he was happy to kind of let you run with it. It's a great sleep machine, by the way.
So if you had someone like Martin Short and Tom Hanks that came with material, you knew when to shut up and kind of let them do their thing. And if you're with someone that needed some assistance, you were there to give some support. And I think it's kind of the same thing. He knew that you came with material and he was happy to kind of let you run with it. It's a great sleep machine, by the way.
No, I thought the host was great. The host was obviously well-researched, which has been discussed.
No, I thought the host was great. The host was obviously well-researched, which has been discussed.
Yeah. Well, we have free time on this show. This is free time. I have the floor. I have the floor. Whoa. This is what I choose to talk about.
Yeah. Well, we have free time on this show. This is free time. I have the floor. I have the floor. Whoa. This is what I choose to talk about.
Time to get in your clown car there, Binky. This show is a slow burn, okay? We're not looking for like hit, hit, hit, hit. People are just driving. They enjoy just like human conversation. You see, here we are. Here we are, two men. And we're just talking. You keep saying we're men and you keep saying we're human. We're two men. We are relatable to humanity because they look at us.
Time to get in your clown car there, Binky. This show is a slow burn, okay? We're not looking for like hit, hit, hit, hit. People are just driving. They enjoy just like human conversation. You see, here we are. Here we are, two men. And we're just talking. You keep saying we're men and you keep saying we're human. We're two men. We are relatable to humanity because they look at us.
They look at us and maybe we represent parts of their own psychology. And here we are interacting. what I'm saying is there are parts of us that are relatable to the listeners and, and you may think there's an expectation that we have to keep things moving at a certain comedic pacing. And I, and I enjoy just talking to you.
They look at us and maybe we represent parts of their own psychology. And here we are interacting. what I'm saying is there are parts of us that are relatable to the listeners and, and you may think there's an expectation that we have to keep things moving at a certain comedic pacing. And I, and I enjoy just talking to you.
100% improv. Great. Yeah. It's the real deal. Great.
100% improv. Great. Yeah. It's the real deal. Great.
Would you like to? To echo what you said, I'm very particular about the products I use. I believe that one's life in part is defined by the products that surround us. We spend hours with these things, maybe even years. And aesthetically speaking, I like to have objects of beauty and utility around me. Now, I choose my products very carefully. And that is certainly true in the case of toilet paper.
Would you like to? To echo what you said, I'm very particular about the products I use. I believe that one's life in part is defined by the products that surround us. We spend hours with these things, maybe even years. And aesthetically speaking, I like to have objects of beauty and utility around me. Now, I choose my products very carefully. And that is certainly true in the case of toilet paper.
Now, I've got some products here. that I want to talk about. Wow. That's a lot of toilet paper there. Well, I do buy toilet paper in bulk because, well, first of all, the need never goes away. Because you're a mad shitter.
Now, I've got some products here. that I want to talk about. Wow. That's a lot of toilet paper there. Well, I do buy toilet paper in bulk because, well, first of all, the need never goes away. Because you're a mad shitter.
So listen, I choose my toilet paper very carefully, and I like this to be a once-in-a-lifetime endeavor, okay? I don't need to re-choose my toilet paper every decade.
So listen, I choose my toilet paper very carefully, and I like this to be a once-in-a-lifetime endeavor, okay? I don't need to re-choose my toilet paper every decade.
OK, well, this is a cliche and a theory by those that are uneducated. Sometimes a vinyl pressing.
OK, well, this is a cliche and a theory by those that are uneducated. Sometimes a vinyl pressing.
The conversation's over. Unless there's some new technology that needs to be introduced to the world. So many years ago, I sampled different toilet papers. There were the aesthetics. There was the design on the paper itself. Was it a quilt? Where did you sample them?
The conversation's over. Unless there's some new technology that needs to be introduced to the world. So many years ago, I sampled different toilet papers. There were the aesthetics. There was the design on the paper itself. Was it a quilt? Where did you sample them?
Over time, I purchased different items.
Over time, I purchased different items.
No, I did not. No.
No, I did not. No.
I decided on a on Charmin. At the time, it was called, I believe, Charmin Plus or Charmin Plus Lotion or Charmin Plus Aloe. And they've gone through many iterations of the name over the years. And it was basically they marketed it as having lotion in it. The lotion was mainly mineral oil. Sure, they put some Aloe in there just to say that they did.
I decided on a on Charmin. At the time, it was called, I believe, Charmin Plus or Charmin Plus Lotion or Charmin Plus Aloe. And they've gone through many iterations of the name over the years. And it was basically they marketed it as having lotion in it. The lotion was mainly mineral oil. Sure, they put some Aloe in there just to say that they did.
But the bulk of it was mineral oil, which is not an expensive addition. Nevertheless, when you're talking about friction. A situation which is inherently comprised of friction and abrasion. What do you mean a situation? What I'm saying is the use of toilet paper. Any any physicist would know that the use of toilet paper involves friction to objects rubbing together. You're talking about abrasion.
But the bulk of it was mineral oil, which is not an expensive addition. Nevertheless, when you're talking about friction. A situation which is inherently comprised of friction and abrasion. What do you mean a situation? What I'm saying is the use of toilet paper. Any any physicist would know that the use of toilet paper involves friction to objects rubbing together. You're talking about abrasion.
You're talking about erosion for all the environmentalists out there. There is a human bodily erosion when using any toilet paper product. Okay. Any toilet paper.
You're talking about erosion for all the environmentalists out there. There is a human bodily erosion when using any toilet paper product. Okay. Any toilet paper.
I know these are master musicians. Neil Young appreciates the value of dynamic range. It was featured heavily in his Pono music service. Nevertheless, sometimes the format itself is mostly irrelevant. OK, what is relevant is the particular mastering. So sometimes the CD will have the better mastering. Sometimes the vinyl will have the better mastering. I have so much to say on this.
I know these are master musicians. Neil Young appreciates the value of dynamic range. It was featured heavily in his Pono music service. Nevertheless, sometimes the format itself is mostly irrelevant. OK, what is relevant is the particular mastering. So sometimes the CD will have the better mastering. Sometimes the vinyl will have the better mastering. I have so much to say on this.
You're going to get erosion. You're wearing away pieces of your ass. What are you doing? Yes, you absolutely. If it's if that's where you're using it. What I'm saying, what I'm saying is.
You're going to get erosion. You're wearing away pieces of your ass. What are you doing? Yes, you absolutely. If it's if that's where you're using it. What I'm saying, what I'm saying is.
Where are you using it? I use toilet paper on many areas of my body. What are you talking about? My nose, my ears. I use it to wipe. You use Kleenex for your nose. No, I use toilet paper for my nose. Sure, in a situation where I'm sick and there's an excess of mucus, I'll invest in a box of Kleenex.
Where are you using it? I use toilet paper on many areas of my body. What are you talking about? My nose, my ears. I use it to wipe. You use Kleenex for your nose. No, I use toilet paper for my nose. Sure, in a situation where I'm sick and there's an excess of mucus, I'll invest in a box of Kleenex.
But why have a product that's good for one use when I can have a multi-use product like toilet paper? I use toilet paper for cleaning up the bathroom sink of the errant spills so as not to mineralize the countertop. I use it to clean up the toilet rim should there be any urine. I use it to... Urine? Did you say urine? I use it on different body parts. It's really a jack of all trades.
But why have a product that's good for one use when I can have a multi-use product like toilet paper? I use toilet paper for cleaning up the bathroom sink of the errant spills so as not to mineralize the countertop. I use it to clean up the toilet rim should there be any urine. I use it to... Urine? Did you say urine? I use it on different body parts. It's really a jack of all trades.
Do you lactate? What I'm saying is anytime there's a discharge, to me, toilet paper is going to be my first choice. Toilet paper is a big part of my life. See, some people take Q-tips for their ears, which, by the way, is unsafe. And now you have a second dedicated product that's only for your ears. What about toilet paper?
Do you lactate? What I'm saying is anytime there's a discharge, to me, toilet paper is going to be my first choice. Toilet paper is a big part of my life. See, some people take Q-tips for their ears, which, by the way, is unsafe. And now you have a second dedicated product that's only for your ears. What about toilet paper?
What's the problem with using toilet paper to clean out your ears and your nose? Anyway, listen, I don't mean to go on too much about the secondary uses. Nevertheless, don't give me that deep breath. I understand that you're in a rush, but I have a lot to say about toilet paper.
What's the problem with using toilet paper to clean out your ears and your nose? Anyway, listen, I don't mean to go on too much about the secondary uses. Nevertheless, don't give me that deep breath. I understand that you're in a rush, but I have a lot to say about toilet paper.
Because you're talking... Get to the point, which is... This is the point. This is the point. I decided on Charmin toilet paper. They had a few varieties at the time because they liked to overcomplicate their product line. I went with the version with lotion, which turned out to be mineral oil. Okay. It's had a number of different... Now, the Charmin people, the Procter & Gamble...
Because you're talking... Get to the point, which is... This is the point. This is the point. I decided on Charmin toilet paper. They had a few varieties at the time because they liked to overcomplicate their product line. I went with the version with lotion, which turned out to be mineral oil. Okay. It's had a number of different... Now, the Charmin people, the Procter & Gamble...
People, they're listening to this right now. And those 30-something marketing people are saying, is this true? Did it used to be called Aloe and E? Because they only know it as Charmin Ultra Gentle, the common name. And there's one guy that probably knows that it was.
People, they're listening to this right now. And those 30-something marketing people are saying, is this true? Did it used to be called Aloe and E? Because they only know it as Charmin Ultra Gentle, the common name. And there's one guy that probably knows that it was.
I buy my toilet paper in bulk because it never expires. I don't enjoy buying toilet paper. I don't want to buy toilet paper more often. I want to buy it less often.
I buy my toilet paper in bulk because it never expires. I don't enjoy buying toilet paper. I don't want to buy toilet paper more often. I want to buy it less often.
Do they think you have an issue? Yes. Yes, I do get unusual looks. I'm used to unusual looks for a variety of reasons that never that never deters me. So I buy mine by the case. So I've got some cases here. I've got a back stock that I bought over the past few years. OK, now this is.
Do they think you have an issue? Yes. Yes, I do get unusual looks. I'm used to unusual looks for a variety of reasons that never that never deters me. So I buy mine by the case. So I've got some cases here. I've got a back stock that I bought over the past few years. OK, now this is.
I pick the most damaged box because I like the boxes to look aesthetically beautiful. When I have an entire room full of toilet paper boxes, I like them to look beautiful. A lot of times you get shipping damage. Anyway, so the point is I buy them in these cases of 18 rolls. These are mega rolls.
I pick the most damaged box because I like the boxes to look aesthetically beautiful. When I have an entire room full of toilet paper boxes, I like them to look beautiful. A lot of times you get shipping damage. Anyway, so the point is I buy them in these cases of 18 rolls. These are mega rolls.
Now, again, in a ridiculous overcomplication, Procter & Gamble has decided to offer different sizes of their rolls. They have the regular roll. They have the giant roll. Then they have the mega roll. The mega is the biggest. I've done the research.
Now, again, in a ridiculous overcomplication, Procter & Gamble has decided to offer different sizes of their rolls. They have the regular roll. They have the giant roll. Then they have the mega roll. The mega is the biggest. I've done the research.
No, the mega roll. You would not a person of your course, visual perception would not even recognize the difference between a giant roll and a mega roll. But I do. OK, I look deep beneath the surface. Anyway, just listen to me, OK? This case, this case.
No, the mega roll. You would not a person of your course, visual perception would not even recognize the difference between a giant roll and a mega roll. But I do. OK, I look deep beneath the surface. Anyway, just listen to me, OK? This case, this case.
Yeah, this case of 18 Charmin Ultra Gentle mega rolls cost $19.99. I bought this for many years. OK, slight variations of the price up and down, but that's basically it. So recently I bought my Charmin order and I bought my 18 mega rolls for $19.99 and this came, okay? And I could already see the packaging is different and this is telling me, yeah.
Yeah, this case of 18 Charmin Ultra Gentle mega rolls cost $19.99. I bought this for many years. OK, slight variations of the price up and down, but that's basically it. So recently I bought my Charmin order and I bought my 18 mega rolls for $19.99 and this came, okay? And I could already see the packaging is different and this is telling me, yeah.
So this is telling me that something is off, okay? So something changed. Something changed. Instead of a case, now I have this package. And immediately I'm suspicious. And listen, I don't want to look for a new brand of toilet paper. I don't like change when it comes to my toilet paper. OK, a lot of things in life should change.
So this is telling me that something is off, okay? So something changed. Something changed. Instead of a case, now I have this package. And immediately I'm suspicious. And listen, I don't want to look for a new brand of toilet paper. I don't like change when it comes to my toilet paper. OK, a lot of things in life should change.
But like things like matches, toilet paper, they don't need to change. So. The old Charmin Ultra Gentle, while the sheet size is the same, had 286 two-ply sheets per roll. Okay. The new Charmin has 231 two-ply sheets per roll. Okay. So the overall square footage of an 18-pack used to be about 51 meters squared, which Whereas this is only about 41 meters squared, which is a 20% decrease.
But like things like matches, toilet paper, they don't need to change. So. The old Charmin Ultra Gentle, while the sheet size is the same, had 286 two-ply sheets per roll. Okay. The new Charmin has 231 two-ply sheets per roll. Okay. So the overall square footage of an 18-pack used to be about 51 meters squared, which Whereas this is only about 41 meters squared, which is a 20% decrease.
So I get it. Okay. Costs are rising in the toilet paper industry and they've got to recoup. Okay. Now I don't believe they're being greedy. I don't think they're trying to impress their shareholders. I understand that the toilet paper cost of improves. Now they could raise the price 20% and then you'd have $24 and I'd get my same product. And you know what? I'd happily pay that $24.
So I get it. Okay. Costs are rising in the toilet paper industry and they've got to recoup. Okay. Now I don't believe they're being greedy. I don't think they're trying to impress their shareholders. I understand that the toilet paper cost of improves. Now they could raise the price 20% and then you'd have $24 and I'd get my same product. And you know what? I'd happily pay that $24.
So say you. There are people. There's a community. I'm part of online forums. There's a community of people like me out there.
So say you. There are people. There's a community. I'm part of online forums. There's a community of people like me out there.
Because I understand inflation exists. But instead, they say, let's charge the same. Let's make the rolls 20% smaller. Now, you can compare the old roll and the new roll, and you'll see a drastic difference. You okay?
Because I understand inflation exists. But instead, they say, let's charge the same. Let's make the rolls 20% smaller. Now, you can compare the old roll and the new roll, and you'll see a drastic difference. You okay?
That's correct. You know, as I was listening to that song, something occurred to me.
That's correct. You know, as I was listening to that song, something occurred to me.
Why is your face? Listen to me.
Why is your face? Listen to me.
That's just my face. Now, listen to me. This clearly means I'm going- This is the new one, and this is the old one.
That's just my face. Now, listen to me. This clearly means I'm going- This is the new one, and this is the old one.
Okay, fine. That's, that's no bombshell. But the point is, why do I have to change my toilet paper roll 20% more often? Why I'm always going to need new toilet paper. Okay. It's not like I'm just going to buy one roll and be like, okay, that's it. I'm done when this rolls over. For the rest of my life, I'm going to be making sure that there is toilet paper on that toilet paper holder, okay?
Okay, fine. That's, that's no bombshell. But the point is, why do I have to change my toilet paper roll 20% more often? Why I'm always going to need new toilet paper. Okay. It's not like I'm just going to buy one roll and be like, okay, that's it. I'm done when this rolls over. For the rest of my life, I'm going to be making sure that there is toilet paper on that toilet paper holder, okay?
And why do I have to now... Because they have this marketing plan that are going to trick people into thinking that they're getting the same value. Now, I have to change my toilet paper roll more frequently. I have to buy more cases of toilet paper over the course of my lifetime. I have to maintain those cases and store those cases. Like, I just don't understand.
And why do I have to now... Because they have this marketing plan that are going to trick people into thinking that they're getting the same value. Now, I have to change my toilet paper roll more frequently. I have to buy more cases of toilet paper over the course of my lifetime. I have to maintain those cases and store those cases. Like, I just don't understand.
Just be upfront and be like, hey, we're charging $24. And by the way, the packaging has changed too. I used to... If I have guests... I like to put a six pack of Charmin unopened, sealed into that restroom.
Just be upfront and be like, hey, we're charging $24. And by the way, the packaging has changed too. I used to... If I have guests... I like to put a six pack of Charmin unopened, sealed into that restroom.
It's called the Jordan Schlansky Music Hour. I bring in my extensive collection of music. This is the Conan and Jordan show. Do you need content for this station? Because I have an idea. This is free content. I do an hour every week. And I play my favorite pressings of different songs. John Parr's St. Elmo's Fire. Do you know that the first note is upcut on most of the CD releases?
It's called the Jordan Schlansky Music Hour. I bring in my extensive collection of music. This is the Conan and Jordan show. Do you need content for this station? Because I have an idea. This is free content. I do an hour every week. And I play my favorite pressings of different songs. John Parr's St. Elmo's Fire. Do you know that the first note is upcut on most of the CD releases?
I'll tell you why. Okay, if you go into a guest room, you want to know you have enough toilet paper for your stay there. You don't want to worry that you're going to have to ask for more toilet paper.
I'll tell you why. Okay, if you go into a guest room, you want to know you have enough toilet paper for your stay there. You don't want to worry that you're going to have to ask for more toilet paper.
Because that's implying that you use above the average amount of toilet paper, okay? Yeah. Six rolls is enough to comfort people. It's not excessive. It's like, no matter what happens to me in this week, I'm going to have enough toilet paper. Six of these? Six of these?
Because that's implying that you use above the average amount of toilet paper, okay? Yeah. Six rolls is enough to comfort people. It's not excessive. It's like, no matter what happens to me in this week, I'm going to have enough toilet paper. Six of these? Six of these?
You don't have to use all six. You just know they're there. Okay? It's comforting.
You don't have to use all six. You just know they're there. Okay? It's comforting.
Abundance. I like to show them that there is an abundance of toilet paper. Whatever happens to you while you're here, you are covered. Anyway, just let me get this out.
Abundance. I like to show them that there is an abundance of toilet paper. Whatever happens to you while you're here, you are covered. Anyway, just let me get this out.
I want my guests to know it's Charmin because I want them to know it's a high-quality premium product, and I'm not just buying in bulk at Costco.
I want my guests to know it's Charmin because I want them to know it's a high-quality premium product, and I'm not just buying in bulk at Costco.
Are you getting any money from Charmin? No. Clearly not. I just criticize them. But at the same time, I do appreciate the quality of the paper. That has not changed. Nevertheless, their new packaging inside the outer package with the bear is just a generic plastic case. My guests think that I'm buying from like Costco or something like that. They don't know it's Charmin.
Are you getting any money from Charmin? No. Clearly not. I just criticize them. But at the same time, I do appreciate the quality of the paper. That has not changed. Nevertheless, their new packaging inside the outer package with the bear is just a generic plastic case. My guests think that I'm buying from like Costco or something like that. They don't know it's Charmin.
I'm saying if you are, if you are that person, I got you covered. If you're a normal person, you're covered too. Okay, so next time I come to your house. You're going to have plenty of toilet paper and you may not use it. And that's fine. I don't expect you to use it. But if you need to use it, it's there. You will never have to ask me for more toilet paper. Do you imagine the humiliation?
I'm saying if you are, if you are that person, I got you covered. If you're a normal person, you're covered too. Okay, so next time I come to your house. You're going to have plenty of toilet paper and you may not use it. And that's fine. I don't expect you to use it. But if you need to use it, it's there. You will never have to ask me for more toilet paper. Do you imagine the humiliation?
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Do you have any more toilet paper? I gave you plenty of toilet paper. I need more toilet paper.
Do you have any more toilet paper? I gave you plenty of toilet paper. I need more toilet paper.
That would be that would be unexpected. I don't want to give them cases. I'm not going to put cases in there. That's ridiculous. But I'd like to put a six pack. I have a question for you.
That would be that would be unexpected. I don't want to give them cases. I'm not going to put cases in there. That's ridiculous. But I'd like to put a six pack. I have a question for you.
I have adaptive techniques, as Darwin has showed us. The key to survival is not strength, but adaptability. I adapt to any situation.
I have adaptive techniques, as Darwin has showed us. The key to survival is not strength, but adaptability. I adapt to any situation.
I believe in orienting the puborectalis muscle in a certain position to allow a greater elimination at home. And I have devices that yield this result at home.
I believe in orienting the puborectalis muscle in a certain position to allow a greater elimination at home. And I have devices that yield this result at home.
However, there's one particular one where the note is intact. Don't you think your viewers would want to hear that?
However, there's one particular one where the note is intact. Don't you think your viewers would want to hear that?
Okay, but when I travel... What erectus bone? When I travel, I don't have access to my devices, so I improvise.
Okay, but when I travel... What erectus bone? When I travel, I don't have access to my devices, so I improvise.
I use a garbage can in the hotel.
I use a garbage can in the hotel.
I don't use the garbage can in the way you're thinking. I use a garbage pail to orient my body in a certain position. Do you understand?
I don't use the garbage can in the way you're thinking. I use a garbage pail to orient my body in a certain position. Do you understand?
I adapt to the situation. This is why I survive. It's not my strength. It's my adaptability. If I don't have a toilet stool to properly orient my puborectalis muscle.
I adapt to the situation. This is why I survive. It's not my strength. It's my adaptability. If I don't have a toilet stool to properly orient my puborectalis muscle.
Well, first of all, there shouldn't even if you're a human animal, a Neanderthal, and you wanted to.
Well, first of all, there shouldn't even if you're a human animal, a Neanderthal, and you wanted to.
No one's ever said Neanderthal. I just said it. The point is you're supposed to be squatting on the ground, fully squatted in a fully squatting position to open up that puborectalis.
No one's ever said Neanderthal. I just said it. The point is you're supposed to be squatting on the ground, fully squatted in a fully squatting position to open up that puborectalis.
Yeah, so that simulates a squatting position, even though you're on a modern toilet bowl. Now, also, you haven't even mentioned how tall that toilet bowl is. You know, there's a variable height. I like to go with the Kohler Wellworth, 15 inches off the ground, no more. Then they have a higher one.
Yeah, so that simulates a squatting position, even though you're on a modern toilet bowl. Now, also, you haven't even mentioned how tall that toilet bowl is. You know, there's a variable height. I like to go with the Kohler Wellworth, 15 inches off the ground, no more. Then they have a higher one.
By Rush. I believe, listening to it, that that's the 2015 Sean McGee remaster. He works at Abbey Road Studios. He did the Beatles 2009 CD set. Anyway, it's got good dynamic range, but I just thought of a new show. You know, I have a hobby that you may not be aware of. I collect various CD pressings from all over the world.
By Rush. I believe, listening to it, that that's the 2015 Sean McGee remaster. He works at Abbey Road Studios. He did the Beatles 2009 CD set. Anyway, it's got good dynamic range, but I just thought of a new show. You know, I have a hobby that you may not be aware of. I collect various CD pressings from all over the world.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
That was your chance to put out a forest fire. I have some things to say about Andrew Groose since we've brought him up. Now, here's why. Here's why I think Andrew Groose has such charisma and is such a compelling person. OK, physically, he's a very powerful man, powerful and imposing. I think you like six, six, six, seven. OK, he's six, seven. He's got a great musculature.
That was your chance to put out a forest fire. I have some things to say about Andrew Groose since we've brought him up. Now, here's why. Here's why I think Andrew Groose has such charisma and is such a compelling person. OK, physically, he's a very powerful man, powerful and imposing. I think you like six, six, six, seven. OK, he's six, seven. He's got a great musculature.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
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And it reminds me of kind of Michael Crawford, the original Phantom of the Opera, who started in 1986 in the West End and then moved to Broadway in 1988. He was a menacing character. Okay. And he was terrifying, but he had an effeminate voice. He, when he would sing high, those notes, it's kind of like early Billy Joel before cigarettes got to him.
And it reminds me of kind of Michael Crawford, the original Phantom of the Opera, who started in 1986 in the West End and then moved to Broadway in 1988. He was a menacing character. Okay. And he was terrifying, but he had an effeminate voice. He, when he would sing high, those notes, it's kind of like early Billy Joel before cigarettes got to him.
If you look at the 1975 old gray whistle test performance of piano, man, his voice is so pure and high. And it's that combination of the masculine rough and tumble nature with that.
If you look at the 1975 old gray whistle test performance of piano, man, his voice is so pure and high. And it's that combination of the masculine rough and tumble nature with that.
But I think we should have free time. Like, I know you have scheduled things, an agenda, if you will. But I think we should leave time to just discuss things that are interested, that we're interested by at any particular time.
But I think we should have free time. Like, I know you have scheduled things, an agenda, if you will. But I think we should leave time to just discuss things that are interested, that we're interested by at any particular time.
Well, me and you, because we are 50% stakeholders in this show. Not financially, of course.
Well, me and you, because we are 50% stakeholders in this show. Not financially, of course.
You'll never see a dime from this. But in terms of content, I would like to think.
You'll never see a dime from this. But in terms of content, I would like to think.
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Well, now you've heard it.
Well, now you've heard it.
Yeah. So modern music is generally standardized and whatever country you live in, you're getting the same CD quality. But back in the 80s and 90s, CDs in different countries had different sounds. They were mastered by different people. And I always pick my favorite. I've spent many thousands of dollars on this hobby. I have my favorite versions of moving pictures.
Yeah. So modern music is generally standardized and whatever country you live in, you're getting the same CD quality. But back in the 80s and 90s, CDs in different countries had different sounds. They were mastered by different people. And I always pick my favorite. I've spent many thousands of dollars on this hobby. I have my favorite versions of moving pictures.
As described by Jeff Goldblum in 1986's The Fly by David Cronenberg, Albert Einstein wore the same outfit every day so he didn't have to devote mental energy into choosing his outfit. We are weakened by every decision we make.
As described by Jeff Goldblum in 1986's The Fly by David Cronenberg, Albert Einstein wore the same outfit every day so he didn't have to devote mental energy into choosing his outfit. We are weakened by every decision we make.
I want to avoid the up cut. Nobody wants the up cut. Everybody wants that solid first note. I'm fine with the St. Elmo's Fire that came out, right? You don't know what you're fine with. You take what you're given. You subscribe to compressed music services. I like uncompressed high dynamic range music.
I want to avoid the up cut. Nobody wants the up cut. Everybody wants that solid first note. I'm fine with the St. Elmo's Fire that came out, right? You don't know what you're fine with. You take what you're given. You subscribe to compressed music services. I like uncompressed high dynamic range music.
What part would you like? Just go. Growing up. Well, you know what?
What part would you like? Just go. Growing up. Well, you know what?
I could see a new horizon underneath a blazing sky. I'll be where the eagles are flying higher and higher. You're under arrest. Yeah.
I could see a new horizon underneath a blazing sky. I'll be where the eagles are flying higher and higher. You're under arrest. Yeah.
You know Charles in charge.
You know Charles in charge.
The second season of all the sitcoms, like, let's take Perfect Strangers. Great, great theme song. Sometimes the world looks perfect. And then the second season, they always had to add this keyboard flourish. Or look at Growing Pains, you know, show me that smile again. But the second season, Jennifer Warrens has to join and make it a duet.
The second season of all the sitcoms, like, let's take Perfect Strangers. Great, great theme song. Sometimes the world looks perfect. And then the second season, they always had to add this keyboard flourish. Or look at Growing Pains, you know, show me that smile again. But the second season, Jennifer Warrens has to join and make it a duet.
And she doesn't add, like, her lyrics are the same lyrics that were originally there. She doesn't add anything. She just echoes the original lyrics.
And she doesn't add, like, her lyrics are the same lyrics that were originally there. She doesn't add anything. She just echoes the original lyrics.
Negativity doesn't lessen my passion for the things that I love. And in fact, it enforces it.
Negativity doesn't lessen my passion for the things that I love. And in fact, it enforces it.
My birthday was adequate. How did you celebrate it? You know, I am I'm a private man. Some say an introvert, some say an observer of humanity. I like to be the observer, not the observed. I don't typically publicize.
My birthday was adequate. How did you celebrate it? You know, I am I'm a private man. Some say an introvert, some say an observer of humanity. I like to be the observer, not the observed. I don't typically publicize.
In fact, the atomic CD from Mercury with the matrix number ending from three to five is my favorite. Anyway, so here's my idea.
In fact, the atomic CD from Mercury with the matrix number ending from three to five is my favorite. Anyway, so here's my idea.
Well, you know, I don't like to be celebrated in any way or acknowledge.
Well, you know, I don't like to be celebrated in any way or acknowledge.
Right. What I'm saying is I don't like any attention. OK, I prefer to watch things unfold with, you know, sporadic participation. Yet I don't like people to know things about me and I don't like them to know when it's my birthday. And I don't like any attention that I might receive.
Right. What I'm saying is I don't like any attention. OK, I prefer to watch things unfold with, you know, sporadic participation. Yet I don't like people to know things about me and I don't like them to know when it's my birthday. And I don't like any attention that I might receive.
I mean, that's an analogy, I guess.
I mean, that's an analogy, I guess.
Yeah, I'm an observer. I'm a student. I'm a perpetual student.
Yeah, I'm an observer. I'm a student. I'm a perpetual student.
I don't believe in judging other people's passions, but that's a stupid hobby. Because no one listens to CDs anymore. It's an outmoded... Well, you like music. And if I tell you I can give you the best Beatles pressing, whatever you're listening to Rubber Soul on, I can give you a better version of Rubber Soul. I would take the 1965 Stereo 2 cut vinyl pressing by a certain vinyl ripper that I know.
I don't believe in judging other people's passions, but that's a stupid hobby. Because no one listens to CDs anymore. It's an outmoded... Well, you like music. And if I tell you I can give you the best Beatles pressing, whatever you're listening to Rubber Soul on, I can give you a better version of Rubber Soul. I would take the 1965 Stereo 2 cut vinyl pressing by a certain vinyl ripper that I know.
You know, there are different people across this great planet. And for any type of person, there's someone that adores them.
You know, there are different people across this great planet. And for any type of person, there's someone that adores them.
What I'm saying is, while you may not appreciate all my nuances, there are people that do appreciate these things.
What I'm saying is, while you may not appreciate all my nuances, there are people that do appreciate these things.
A quiet time bucket? That there are some people that enjoy hearing what I have to say.
A quiet time bucket? That there are some people that enjoy hearing what I have to say.
Well, I assume you got a lot of attention on that day, and I'll save it till I see you, and I can wish you a happy birthday in person.
Well, I assume you got a lot of attention on that day, and I'll save it till I see you, and I can wish you a happy birthday in person.
Happy birthday. Thank you. That was worth the wait. But I am aware of your birthday. I'm aware of your, you know, April 18th, 1963. Oh, great. I'm aware that you're an Aries, Adias, if you prefer the correct pronunciation. Would you say, no, people just say Aries. Yes, they do. But nevertheless, I'm aware of your birthday. What astrological sign was Einstein? Yes.
Happy birthday. Thank you. That was worth the wait. But I am aware of your birthday. I'm aware of your, you know, April 18th, 1963. Oh, great. I'm aware that you're an Aries, Adias, if you prefer the correct pronunciation. Would you say, no, people just say Aries. Yes, they do. But nevertheless, I'm aware of your birthday. What astrological sign was Einstein? Yes.
What I'm saying is, on your birthday, I take a minute. He was a Taurus. Yes, that's Taurus, you know, Toto in Spanish, Italian, the bull Taurus. But but my point is on your birthday, I did silently acknowledge to myself that it was your birthday.
What I'm saying is, on your birthday, I take a minute. He was a Taurus. Yes, that's Taurus, you know, Toto in Spanish, Italian, the bull Taurus. But but my point is on your birthday, I did silently acknowledge to myself that it was your birthday.
That's Conan's birthday.
That's Conan's birthday.
There was one moment in particular that I had anticipated, one moment in time. Which was? Which was that silence between the 20th century Fox fanfare and the opening music by John Williams. All I wanted was that moment. All you wanted was that moment? Out of two hours, I wanted that one moment.
There was one moment in particular that I had anticipated, one moment in time. Which was? Which was that silence between the 20th century Fox fanfare and the opening music by John Williams. All I wanted was that moment. All you wanted was that moment? Out of two hours, I wanted that one moment.
And I could tell by the person you were with, you were there in an ironic fashion. You were there to kind of look at the fans and see how they react to the stimulus. I knew what was happening.
And I could tell by the person you were with, you were there in an ironic fashion. You were there to kind of look at the fans and see how they react to the stimulus. I knew what was happening.
But my whole point is... I think you are the ripper.
But my whole point is... I think you are the ripper.
The part where you weren't cracking jokes in my ear.
The part where you weren't cracking jokes in my ear.
What I'm saying is I appreciate the place of humor in the world and certainly your humor. No question. But there are times where I want to be emotionally moved. Do you like is your brain? Your brain fascinates me. You're clearly an extraordinary man. OK, you know, there are times where you want to look at a piece of art and be brought to tears. Do you want do you cry at movies?
What I'm saying is I appreciate the place of humor in the world and certainly your humor. No question. But there are times where I want to be emotionally moved. Do you like is your brain? Your brain fascinates me. You're clearly an extraordinary man. OK, you know, there are times where you want to look at a piece of art and be brought to tears. Do you want do you cry at movies?
Like, are you always cracking jokes in your head like with this ironic stance? Like, if you feel emotion welling in you, do you have to pivot into like cynicism and kind of like deconstructing in a comedic fashion? I don't think I'm a cynical person at all. Do you tear up at movies? Like when you watch Interstellar, the end of Interstellar, for example.
Like, are you always cracking jokes in your head like with this ironic stance? Like, if you feel emotion welling in you, do you have to pivot into like cynicism and kind of like deconstructing in a comedic fashion? I don't think I'm a cynical person at all. Do you tear up at movies? Like when you watch Interstellar, the end of Interstellar, for example.
That's not going to happen to me. No. It's fascinating. I know our brains are wired differently. I just am always curious as to the extent of it. So you don't put on movies.
That's not going to happen to me. No. It's fascinating. I know our brains are wired differently. I just am always curious as to the extent of it. So you don't put on movies.
That's me. What I'm saying is when you're alone and there's no audience, do you like, it's like late at night and you're watching like a movie, like the end scene of Gladiator. Do you, are you like cracking jokes in your head at completely inopportune times?
That's me. What I'm saying is when you're alone and there's no audience, do you like, it's like late at night and you're watching like a movie, like the end scene of Gladiator. Do you, are you like cracking jokes in your head at completely inopportune times?
Okay.
Okay.
Oh yeah, I know the shot you're talking about.
Oh yeah, I know the shot you're talking about.
I'm sorry. I can't.
I'm sorry. I can't.
I'm sorry. I respect inanimate objects, okay? It's like a Japanese mentality, okay? I treasure these. If they were sentient, I think they would value the way I treated them. Nevertheless, I went to replace this product when it was damaged. I live in the United States and I was served this Panasonic ER411. This is disgusting. What?
I'm sorry. I respect inanimate objects, okay? It's like a Japanese mentality, okay? I treasure these. If they were sentient, I think they would value the way I treated them. Nevertheless, I went to replace this product when it was damaged. I live in the United States and I was served this Panasonic ER411. This is disgusting. What?
This is oversized. It's light and plastic. It looks like a rocket ship. The cutting mechanism I actually replaced. This had been discontinued, but I was able to buy the cutting part. I replaced it.
This is oversized. It's light and plastic. It looks like a rocket ship. The cutting mechanism I actually replaced. This had been discontinued, but I was able to buy the cutting part. I replaced it.
Okay, you buy a $15...
Okay, you buy a $15...
Yeah. This was an inadequate product. This was no longer made in Japan. It was made in a country that is arguably known for some lower quality production methods. It looks like a rocket ship. It draws unnecessary attention to itself. It's a bright silver color. This was what you would get as an American after the glory days of nose hair trimmers.
Yeah. This was an inadequate product. This was no longer made in Japan. It was made in a country that is arguably known for some lower quality production methods. It looks like a rocket ship. It draws unnecessary attention to itself. It's a bright silver color. This was what you would get as an American after the glory days of nose hair trimmers.
Well, one is silver and one is gray. We define ourselves by the objects we interact with every day. I surround myself with beauty, with high levels of aesthetic pleasure, and it's not only putting on beautiful clothes, it's also using a beautiful nose hair trimmer. It's also understanding that everything we interact with defines our life. So I wanted a well-made product.
Well, one is silver and one is gray. We define ourselves by the objects we interact with every day. I surround myself with beauty, with high levels of aesthetic pleasure, and it's not only putting on beautiful clothes, it's also using a beautiful nose hair trimmer. It's also understanding that everything we interact with defines our life. So I wanted a well-made product.
So built is like milked, not built. I didn't build you money. I didn't build. I didn't help you build an empire. No one said you'd build anything like the second employee of Apple in 1976 is a multibillionaire because they got it in a time where Apple wasn't a sure thing. They were risking their potential future.
So built is like milked, not built. I didn't build you money. I didn't build. I didn't help you build an empire. No one said you'd build anything like the second employee of Apple in 1976 is a multibillionaire because they got it in a time where Apple wasn't a sure thing. They were risking their potential future.
I was not happy with this product, but I thought it was my only option. So I trimmed my nose hair unhappily with that product. And when did this one commit suicide? You found this guy hanging. So then I visited the country of Japan and I found out that Panasonic sells a different nose hair trimmer model for the Japanese clientele. Oh, so they sell us the inferior one. The ER-GN10.
I was not happy with this product, but I thought it was my only option. So I trimmed my nose hair unhappily with that product. And when did this one commit suicide? You found this guy hanging. So then I visited the country of Japan and I found out that Panasonic sells a different nose hair trimmer model for the Japanese clientele. Oh, so they sell us the inferior one. The ER-GN10.
And look how sleek and stylish this product is. This thing feels amazing in the hand. It's perfectly balanced. It's reminiscent of my old ER-409. This is from 25 years ago. This is from today. Why do you know the serial numbers? And since I was in Japan, I knew that this was not going to last forever, despite the fact that it is still made in Japan in a high quality. So I bought spares.
And look how sleek and stylish this product is. This thing feels amazing in the hand. It's perfectly balanced. It's reminiscent of my old ER-409. This is from 25 years ago. This is from today. Why do you know the serial numbers? And since I was in Japan, I knew that this was not going to last forever, despite the fact that it is still made in Japan in a high quality. So I bought spares.
And then I found that on my second trip, they had come out with the ER... It originally was the ERGN-10. Then they came out with the ERGN-11. I bought two of those. Hold on a second. Let me see this. Look at the beautiful... Just look at the packaging. I mean, this is clearly a product made for a clientele that demands high quality products. Look at your eyes. You look insane.
And then I found that on my second trip, they had come out with the ER... It originally was the ERGN-10. Then they came out with the ERGN-11. I bought two of those. Hold on a second. Let me see this. Look at the beautiful... Just look at the packaging. I mean, this is clearly a product made for a clientele that demands high quality products. Look at your eyes. You look insane.
Why do they sell this to Americans and this beauty? Why do they sell this disgusting rocket ship to Americans and this beautiful piece of machinery to the Japanese clientele? I just I don't understand the logic of that. But nevertheless, how many of these did you buy? I bought four of them. But now I can see you being a little worried that you should have bought a fifth.
Why do they sell this to Americans and this beauty? Why do they sell this disgusting rocket ship to Americans and this beautiful piece of machinery to the Japanese clientele? I just I don't understand the logic of that. But nevertheless, how many of these did you buy? I bought four of them. But now I can see you being a little worried that you should have bought a fifth.
You take what you're given. I don't know what kind of nose hair trimmer you you just buy whatever is available. I seek out high quality wherever on the planet it may lie. What do you even use to trim your nose hair?
You take what you're given. I don't know what kind of nose hair trimmer you you just buy whatever is available. I seek out high quality wherever on the planet it may lie. What do you even use to trim your nose hair?
What does that have to do with anything? You don't employ a hair and makeup person. What are you talking about?
What does that have to do with anything? You don't employ a hair and makeup person. What are you talking about?
Okay, so you may contract one intermittently, but I'm saying that's not going to take care of your nose hair on a regular basis. I use little scissors. How do you get rid of that quantity of hair with a simple manual device like that?
Okay, so you may contract one intermittently, but I'm saying that's not going to take care of your nose hair on a regular basis. I use little scissors. How do you get rid of that quantity of hair with a simple manual device like that?
They could have chosen Saturday Night Live when they were offered an internship on one of two shows.
They could have chosen Saturday Night Live when they were offered an internship on one of two shows.
There's got to be over 100 individual hairs between those two nostrils. Are you telling me? I use little scissors. How long does that even take? And it's a little bit curved. Are you confident in the quality of your work? I know that if I look in that nose right now and I show the light in there, if you're using manual scissors, there's no way you're accomplishing an efficient whisker removal.
There's got to be over 100 individual hairs between those two nostrils. Are you telling me? I use little scissors. How long does that even take? And it's a little bit curved. Are you confident in the quality of your work? I know that if I look in that nose right now and I show the light in there, if you're using manual scissors, there's no way you're accomplishing an efficient whisker removal.
It's not often talked about. You have hair removal challenges. You have shaving problems and you always have. I'll come in and I'll see huge patches of hair on your face, isolated patches of hair. I don't know how, when you have resources available to you, I don't know how this passes inspection.
It's not often talked about. You have hair removal challenges. You have shaving problems and you always have. I'll come in and I'll see huge patches of hair on your face, isolated patches of hair. I don't know how, when you have resources available to you, I don't know how this passes inspection.
They took the one that was on 13-week renewals. Now, you know, in that situation, like if you look at the history of the tech companies, the secretaries at Apple and Microsoft are now billionaires. Now, I kind of equate myself to that type of situation. I came in in the early days. There were no guarantees. It was a little bit rough.
They took the one that was on 13-week renewals. Now, you know, in that situation, like if you look at the history of the tech companies, the secretaries at Apple and Microsoft are now billionaires. Now, I kind of equate myself to that type of situation. I came in in the early days. There were no guarantees. It was a little bit rough.
I'll come in one day, you've got like a little, you've shaved, but you've got like a tuft of red hair under your nose where your mustache would be. You've got like a random, your neck a lot of times have like, you have shaving problems. And just acknowledge.
I'll come in one day, you've got like a little, you've shaved, but you've got like a tuft of red hair under your nose where your mustache would be. You've got like a random, your neck a lot of times have like, you have shaving problems. And just acknowledge.
You'll have a clump of hair sticking out of your neck in an arbitrary position. Do you want to know what the problem is?
You'll have a clump of hair sticking out of your neck in an arbitrary position. Do you want to know what the problem is?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a clump of hair.
This is a clump of hair.
I'm not concerned with individual hairs. Hurtful. I'm just asking you, do you feel, if you can improve in some way by listening to the things I have to say, why do you have to ridicule? I'm not ridiculing. You have the means. Why do I have to buy it?
I'm not concerned with individual hairs. Hurtful. I'm just asking you, do you feel, if you can improve in some way by listening to the things I have to say, why do you have to ridicule? I'm not ridiculing. You have the means. Why do I have to buy it?
I'm not going to put a price tag on this. $100. If someone's doing something better than you, don't ridicule. Just be like, I learned something.
I'm not going to put a price tag on this. $100. If someone's doing something better than you, don't ridicule. Just be like, I learned something.
Oh, it's Socrates. Oh, it's Caesar. I understand. Oh, you can be more efficient shaving your nose hair with the eHarchigan 10.
Oh, it's Socrates. Oh, it's Caesar. I understand. Oh, you can be more efficient shaving your nose hair with the eHarchigan 10.
I'm not giving it back. Don't expect that when we walk out of this door, I'm giving it back. You don't have to give it back. Do you want the ERGN-10 or the GN-11?
I'm not giving it back. Don't expect that when we walk out of this door, I'm giving it back. You don't have to give it back. Do you want the ERGN-10 or the GN-11?
I'm not clear on what the difference is. That's something I'm curious about, but it's written in Japanese, so you can get... Well, what's the latest version? Oh, I don't know. I'm going to guess if there's the ERGN-10 and the ERGN-11. I'm going to guess maybe the ERGN-11 is more recent. Maybe they're going in a backwards lumbering scheme. If I ever see the GN9, I know that that's a steal.
I'm not clear on what the difference is. That's something I'm curious about, but it's written in Japanese, so you can get... Well, what's the latest version? Oh, I don't know. I'm going to guess if there's the ERGN-10 and the ERGN-11. I'm going to guess maybe the ERGN-11 is more recent. Maybe they're going in a backwards lumbering scheme. If I ever see the GN9, I know that that's a steal.
I mean, these are just basic questions. I don't need to read Japanese or understand anything specific about nose hair. Just give me everything you have. No. You think you have more than 200 in cash on you?
I mean, these are just basic questions. I don't need to read Japanese or understand anything specific about nose hair. Just give me everything you have. No. You think you have more than 200 in cash on you?
I'm just saying you have room for improvement. This is nothing to be ashamed about. This is something to embrace. I can help you improve.
I'm just saying you have room for improvement. This is nothing to be ashamed about. This is something to embrace. I can help you improve.
And I expect at this point, 30 years later, I would be sitting pretty on a pile of cash.
And I expect at this point, 30 years later, I would be sitting pretty on a pile of cash.
No, this is not what I use for my ass.
No, this is not what I use for my ass.
Listen.
Listen.
What goes up the old bottom? I don't remove hair in that area. Why would you leave that there? Why? I don't have any problem with that hair. What do you mean? I have no problem with that hair. Why do one orifice and not just... This one is visible. Well... This one is, you know, displayed. Uh-huh.
What goes up the old bottom? I don't remove hair in that area. Why would you leave that there? Why? I don't have any problem with that hair. What do you mean? I have no problem with that hair. Why do one orifice and not just... This one is visible. Well... This one is, you know, displayed. Uh-huh.
Well, I've got a AA in mind. You may not want the nose trimmer itself, but you could take my battery, I hope. Yeah, I'll take the battery. I mean, the battery's been in indirect contact with my nose and ears.
Well, I've got a AA in mind. You may not want the nose trimmer itself, but you could take my battery, I hope. Yeah, I'll take the battery. I mean, the battery's been in indirect contact with my nose and ears.
Now, you stick that up your nose, and if I hear a grinding sound... Hear that? Yeah, I hear it. Hear that? Yeah. If I hear a grind... You're clearly not doing a good job with your scissors. That was all left behind.
Now, you stick that up your nose, and if I hear a grinding sound... Hear that? Yeah, I hear it. Hear that? Yeah. If I hear a grind... You're clearly not doing a good job with your scissors. That was all left behind.
Oh my God. Each one of these blasts has like four hairs in it. What do you mean blast? It just keeps going. You're just still in the same nostril. I'm still in the same nostril. So how often do you do this? Do you do this every day? Every Tuesday and Friday, I find it the most efficient days to remove the hair.
Oh my God. Each one of these blasts has like four hairs in it. What do you mean blast? It just keeps going. You're just still in the same nostril. I'm still in the same nostril. So how often do you do this? Do you do this every day? Every Tuesday and Friday, I find it the most efficient days to remove the hair.
I hope...
I hope...
Yeah, you haven't even gotten to your ears yet. Ears? Yeah, do you still feel like your quaint scissor method is efficient? You know what, I have to say this is better.
Yeah, you haven't even gotten to your ears yet. Ears? Yeah, do you still feel like your quaint scissor method is efficient? You know what, I have to say this is better.
And you don't have to worry about this disgusting device. And you claim that you don't learn anything or that there's no value in the knowledge that I have. And look at you now.
And you don't have to worry about this disgusting device. And you claim that you don't learn anything or that there's no value in the knowledge that I have. And look at you now.
You know, there's nothing that I can tell you that you haven't heard before. That's not of any value.
You know, there's nothing that I can tell you that you haven't heard before. That's not of any value.
No, that's not a level where you have the top advisors begging to give you their information. I remember when you had these personal trainers in the 90s, you had these guys like, oh, no, we'll learn. This is Will Arnett's guy like you. And I started to give you nutrition advice. Please. I think I've got this covered. I've got Will Arnett's personal. It was actually Will Arnett. Yeah.
No, that's not a level where you have the top advisors begging to give you their information. I remember when you had these personal trainers in the 90s, you had these guys like, oh, no, we'll learn. This is Will Arnett's guy like you. And I started to give you nutrition advice. Please. I think I've got this covered. I've got Will Arnett's personal. It was actually Will Arnett. Yeah.
No, Arnett was training me. And I would see these protein powders in your office and they were like low quality soy proteins with like incomplete amino acid profiles. And you're like, don't worry, I've got the best people in the business. You let me eat incomplete amino acids?
No, Arnett was training me. And I would see these protein powders in your office and they were like low quality soy proteins with like incomplete amino acid profiles. And you're like, don't worry, I've got the best people in the business. You let me eat incomplete amino acids?
You have this theory where you're special and you want the best of everything, but you assume that there's nothing that I can tell you that you can't get a better answer on from someone else.
You have this theory where you're special and you want the best of everything, but you assume that there's nothing that I can tell you that you can't get a better answer on from someone else.
Who else in your life is going to tell you about the ERGN-11? No one else. What other soul on this planet would ever tell you about this? This cost me $200. Yeah. That's a lot. Well, you have to take into account that I cannot easily replace it. There was a plane ticket involved. I brought it into the country. I imported it. I mean, there's a lot of middlemen that were cut out of the deal.
Who else in your life is going to tell you about the ERGN-11? No one else. What other soul on this planet would ever tell you about this? This cost me $200. Yeah. That's a lot. Well, you have to take into account that I cannot easily replace it. There was a plane ticket involved. I brought it into the country. I imported it. I mean, there's a lot of middlemen that were cut out of the deal.
If one is resourceful, I'm sure they can find a way to obtain it.
If one is resourceful, I'm sure they can find a way to obtain it.
bag and you're carrying it around and it's sad i admit i have a bag with nose hair trimmers on it these are cool i mean this is you know i'm going to say something these are uh nice yes now i'm i'm going to go home tonight and my wife expects me she's going to notice your clean nose i presume and and she and not just today but going forward this device may last you many years
bag and you're carrying it around and it's sad i admit i have a bag with nose hair trimmers on it these are cool i mean this is you know i'm going to say something these are uh nice yes now i'm i'm going to go home tonight and my wife expects me she's going to notice your clean nose i presume and and she and not just today but going forward this device may last you many years
Does this also work on the ears?
Does this also work on the ears?
Not that I'm aware of.
Not that I'm aware of.
I have no recollection of looking at my buttocks in the way that I believe you're referring to.
I have no recollection of looking at my buttocks in the way that I believe you're referring to.
It doesn't concern you. Have you? Have I what? looked at your anus, I guess, is where you were going with this?
It doesn't concern you. Have you? Have I what? looked at your anus, I guess, is where you were going with this?
You know, speaking of Tracy Ellis Ross, she asked you about bar soap or liquid soap. You neglected to mention the most important factor in that question, the pH level. You see, liquid soap is often a detergent. Sometimes it's actually a soap that is to say a saponified fat. But often it's a detergent which has a lower pH closer to that of your skin.
You know, speaking of Tracy Ellis Ross, she asked you about bar soap or liquid soap. You neglected to mention the most important factor in that question, the pH level. You see, liquid soap is often a detergent. Sometimes it's actually a soap that is to say a saponified fat. But often it's a detergent which has a lower pH closer to that of your skin.
Does it go into a chamber at the top? You'll have to clean that out from now.
Does it go into a chamber at the top? You'll have to clean that out from now.
Naturally, the problem with soap is that it disrupts the acid mantle of the skin.
Naturally, the problem with soap is that it disrupts the acid mantle of the skin.
Uh, I'm pretty content to be honest with you. Uh, I don't really have any chronic conditions, psychological or otherwise. You know, basic human responses. We have fear and frightful situations, and we may feel anxious in situations that would classically inspire such a reaction. I wouldn't say I fall victim to a lot of the...
Uh, I'm pretty content to be honest with you. Uh, I don't really have any chronic conditions, psychological or otherwise. You know, basic human responses. We have fear and frightful situations, and we may feel anxious in situations that would classically inspire such a reaction. I wouldn't say I fall victim to a lot of the...
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know my strengths and my weaknesses and I know my characteristics and I'm I'm quite content with them. Um, you know, I know my limitations and my I'm quite familiar with your limitations.
I know my strengths and my weaknesses and I know my characteristics and I'm I'm quite content with them. Um, you know, I know my limitations and my I'm quite familiar with your limitations.
Yeah, I'm talking about my own psychology. Your treatment of me over the years in financially and otherwise is a completely different subject. I'm talking about psychologically. I am introverted, which I don't think is any secret. And I'm certainly a psychologist. You'll likely read that right away. INTP, if you're a fan of the Myers-Briggs classification system.
Yeah, I'm talking about my own psychology. Your treatment of me over the years in financially and otherwise is a completely different subject. I'm talking about psychologically. I am introverted, which I don't think is any secret. And I'm certainly a psychologist. You'll likely read that right away. INTP, if you're a fan of the Myers-Briggs classification system.
You referenced it.
You referenced it.
Yeah, it's a good question. That is a good question. I get a lot of different responses. Do you understand? I'm going to guess that a lot of people get mostly consistent responses from those around them with, you know, a few outlying responses. But I get very different responses from different people. I find some people despise me and I find...
Yeah, it's a good question. That is a good question. I get a lot of different responses. Do you understand? I'm going to guess that a lot of people get mostly consistent responses from those around them with, you know, a few outlying responses. But I get very different responses from different people. I find some people despise me and I find...
But I find that an equal, if not more, number of people embrace me. And I think that if you average it all out, it equals a normal person's response. But mine is a bit polarizing with equal numbers on both sides. And I guess there are a few apathetic in the middle that really don't care one way or the other.
But I find that an equal, if not more, number of people embrace me. And I think that if you average it all out, it equals a normal person's response. But mine is a bit polarizing with equal numbers on both sides. And I guess there are a few apathetic in the middle that really don't care one way or the other.
Well, I'm not concerned with being normal. That was never high on my priority list.
Well, I'm not concerned with being normal. That was never high on my priority list.
Yeah. I like to think that I'm a good person. And in the end, overall, I increase the quality of the lives of people around me. Of course, there are a few exceptions. Inevitable. That's just attrition. as you get in business and life in general. But I try to be a good person. I try to improve the world around me and my limited time here on this earth.
Yeah. I like to think that I'm a good person. And in the end, overall, I increase the quality of the lives of people around me. Of course, there are a few exceptions. Inevitable. That's just attrition. as you get in business and life in general. But I try to be a good person. I try to improve the world around me and my limited time here on this earth.
But of course, I don't hit it out of the park every single time. And, you know, some people are easy to read, and I may have more of a stoic demeanor, even if it doesn't necessarily represent what's going on inside me. And some people, when faced with that kind of blank slate, find it often pudding and intimidating in a way. And I understand that and respect that.
But of course, I don't hit it out of the park every single time. And, you know, some people are easy to read, and I may have more of a stoic demeanor, even if it doesn't necessarily represent what's going on inside me. And some people, when faced with that kind of blank slate, find it often pudding and intimidating in a way. And I understand that and respect that.
Okay, well, listen, Stephanie has made a very good observation, and I am different depending on who I'm talking to, and I do have many sides of my personality, and I truly maintain that they're all genuine, many sides, and the person I'm talking to often evokes a certain aspect, subdivision of my personality, and it is true that you consistently, I'm gesturing to my co-host Conan, evokes a certain response from me
Okay, well, listen, Stephanie has made a very good observation, and I am different depending on who I'm talking to, and I do have many sides of my personality, and I truly maintain that they're all genuine, many sides, and the person I'm talking to often evokes a certain aspect, subdivision of my personality, and it is true that you consistently, I'm gesturing to my co-host Conan, evokes a certain response from me
Whereas if I were just talking to Stephanie or some of our other colleagues, they may get a different response from me.
Whereas if I were just talking to Stephanie or some of our other colleagues, they may get a different response from me.
Yeah, good question. Well, I'll tell you, Conan has a certain energy. Some may even say polar opposite to my own. He's very extroverted, very textbook extrovert. He feeds off the energy of others and feels drained when he doesn't get that response from others. And I'm exactly the opposite. And, you know, Conan, we are the same species, Homo sapiens.
Yeah, good question. Well, I'll tell you, Conan has a certain energy. Some may even say polar opposite to my own. He's very extroverted, very textbook extrovert. He feeds off the energy of others and feels drained when he doesn't get that response from others. And I'm exactly the opposite. And, you know, Conan, we are the same species, Homo sapiens.
But our minds are wired so very differently, it's hard to believe we're the same species. And when I watch him, and I like to observe human beings and humanity in general.
But our minds are wired so very differently, it's hard to believe we're the same species. And when I watch him, and I like to observe human beings and humanity in general.
When I watch him and how his mind works, I marvel at it because... In addition to his many talents, his many tangible talents, I marvel at how very different his mind is than mine. He he will go out of his way if we're on an airplane sitting across the aisle to get my attention, to yell across the aisle. And I turn his way and expect he's going to have some great witty quip.
When I watch him and how his mind works, I marvel at it because... In addition to his many talents, his many tangible talents, I marvel at how very different his mind is than mine. He he will go out of his way if we're on an airplane sitting across the aisle to get my attention, to yell across the aisle. And I turn his way and expect he's going to have some great witty quip.
And he just makes a ridiculous face at me. And that was that was so important to him that he had to yell across a crowded airplane cabin to get. And I'm thinking I would never I could have the best joke or observation in the world. I would never take that.
And he just makes a ridiculous face at me. And that was that was so important to him that he had to yell across a crowded airplane cabin to get. And I'm thinking I would never I could have the best joke or observation in the world. I would never take that.
I haven't become a multimillionaire despite getting in at the early days when I could have lost my job at any point, but still stuck with you through thick and thin.
I haven't become a multimillionaire despite getting in at the early days when I could have lost my job at any point, but still stuck with you through thick and thin.
What kind of expression do you want in that moment? I'm just sitting watching the hours go by.
What kind of expression do you want in that moment? I'm just sitting watching the hours go by.
But there's nothing wrong with a placid pond. That's that's what you're missing here. You always need movement. But sometimes the the silence is where the magic is, the stillness.
But there's nothing wrong with a placid pond. That's that's what you're missing here. You always need movement. But sometimes the the silence is where the magic is, the stillness.
OK, while I acknowledge that you and I have very different personalities, who's to judge whose personality is superior? You're implying that your own personality is superior.
OK, while I acknowledge that you and I have very different personalities, who's to judge whose personality is superior? You're implying that your own personality is superior.
Well, I'm no psychologist, but to me, I detect an air of insecurity and overcompensation. I don't need to judge you and who's you're certainly an exceptional human being. No question about it. Thank you. And if you compare me to the average human, you might think that I'm a bit different and I don't disagree.
Well, I'm no psychologist, but to me, I detect an air of insecurity and overcompensation. I don't need to judge you and who's you're certainly an exceptional human being. No question about it. Thank you. And if you compare me to the average human, you might think that I'm a bit different and I don't disagree.
However, when it comes to assessing which is the superior way to be, that's when things get a little murkier. And I don't know that we need to have that competition.
However, when it comes to assessing which is the superior way to be, that's when things get a little murkier. And I don't know that we need to have that competition.
I'm saying Steve Jobs' secretary can buy this entire complex. Well, I prefer the term assistant. Yes.
I'm saying Steve Jobs' secretary can buy this entire complex. Well, I prefer the term assistant. Yes.
The convoluted premise that you used to get into these scenarios just baffles me. Why the nose hair intro? Why not just say we have a psychologist on the phone? Why do you feel you need to justify?
The convoluted premise that you used to get into these scenarios just baffles me. Why the nose hair intro? Why not just say we have a psychologist on the phone? Why do you feel you need to justify?
At the time, she was probably referred to as a secretary. Nevertheless, I expect that there might be some kind of financial sense of accomplishment as opposed to my. Well, guess what?
At the time, she was probably referred to as a secretary. Nevertheless, I expect that there might be some kind of financial sense of accomplishment as opposed to my. Well, guess what?
If I was in the process of writing it at this very moment, then you could say you write a limerick. Any other context? I wrote a limerick, yes, back in the 90s.
If I was in the process of writing it at this very moment, then you could say you write a limerick. Any other context? I wrote a limerick, yes, back in the 90s.
Well, for those unfamiliar with the concept of a limerick, it's a specific. No need. You can just say it. Across Eyre, a young traveler set out on a quest to find fortune, no doubt. As he strolled into Ennis, he was pulled a cold Guinness, hence the lad's pot of gold was that stout.
Well, for those unfamiliar with the concept of a limerick, it's a specific. No need. You can just say it. Across Eyre, a young traveler set out on a quest to find fortune, no doubt. As he strolled into Ennis, he was pulled a cold Guinness, hence the lad's pot of gold was that stout.
I'm not qualified to answer that question.
I'm not qualified to answer that question.
Well, I don't remember exactly. I believe it may have been a trip to Ireland. I've never been to Ireland. I'd love to go to Ireland. It was actually a pub. A pub. A pub in Ireland.
Well, I don't remember exactly. I believe it may have been a trip to Ireland. I've never been to Ireland. I'd love to go to Ireland. It was actually a pub. A pub. A pub in Ireland.
I think you may be referring to a similar contest in an adjacent year. Nevertheless, I believe there was an essay one year and maybe a limerick. There was definitely a limerick involved.
I think you may be referring to a similar contest in an adjacent year. Nevertheless, I believe there was an essay one year and maybe a limerick. There was definitely a limerick involved.
And a limerick was not required. Listen to me. There's a marketing team at Guinness. I'm sure there are a bunch of 30 somethings and they get wind of this and they talk to each other. Is this true? Is this true? Well, ask Ron. He's the old time around here.
And a limerick was not required. Listen to me. There's a marketing team at Guinness. I'm sure there are a bunch of 30 somethings and they get wind of this and they talk to each other. Is this true? Is this true? Well, ask Ron. He's the old time around here.
He was back here in the 90s and they go to Ron and Ron's, you know, kind of moved up the ladder a little bit, but never really achieved greatness at the company to the point where he could retire. So they ask Ron, was there a thing? And he's like, yeah, there's something about an essay. And they look up the essay and maybe the essay was 96 and mine was 95. Jordan, do
He was back here in the 90s and they go to Ron and Ron's, you know, kind of moved up the ladder a little bit, but never really achieved greatness at the company to the point where he could retire. So they ask Ron, was there a thing? And he's like, yeah, there's something about an essay. And they look up the essay and maybe the essay was 96 and mine was 95. Jordan, do
I would never choose to write a limerick if I could have written an essay. I don't want to be confined to very few words.
I would never choose to write a limerick if I could have written an essay. I don't want to be confined to very few words.
There was a contest for a limerick. It was specifically a limerick. Do I look like someone that would just decide to write a limerick?
There was a contest for a limerick. It was specifically a limerick. Do I look like someone that would just decide to write a limerick?
And you decided to write a limerick. My limerick had nothing to do with Guinness is. I'm telling you, these were two separate contests. They had a thing. They went through a period where like every year they had a contest and there was a prize. Nevertheless, it's the same. It's the same intent. You write, you use your creative literary skills.
And you decided to write a limerick. My limerick had nothing to do with Guinness is. I'm telling you, these were two separate contests. They had a thing. They went through a period where like every year they had a contest and there was a prize. Nevertheless, it's the same. It's the same intent. You write, you use your creative literary skills.
You're yelling. You're yelling. And I want you to take it down. I'm just saying I was not in direct competition with this woman, but we are compatriots. We are counterparts, maybe one year apart.
You're yelling. You're yelling. And I want you to take it down. I'm just saying I was not in direct competition with this woman, but we are compatriots. We are counterparts, maybe one year apart.
You know, I take your point about taking a pouring class because there is a very specific way to do it. There are YouTube videos of bartenders kind of trolling customers and pouring it the wrong way. And it's fascinating to see people know how much head's supposed to be on there. Not too little, not too much. Nevertheless, I don't drink beer myself.
You know, I take your point about taking a pouring class because there is a very specific way to do it. There are YouTube videos of bartenders kind of trolling customers and pouring it the wrong way. And it's fascinating to see people know how much head's supposed to be on there. Not too little, not too much. Nevertheless, I don't drink beer myself.
I appreciate the sentiment, even if the second line in the limerick had a meter that was slightly too verbose.
I appreciate the sentiment, even if the second line in the limerick had a meter that was slightly too verbose.
So I'm not getting a trip to Ireland.
So I'm not getting a trip to Ireland.
Right.
Right.
So how come you're not drinking any? I told you I don't drink beer.
So how come you're not drinking any? I told you I don't drink beer.
liking the beer was not a qualification of entry. All I'm saying is, look, I appreciate the sentiment. This is a nice PR story, but let's look at the facts. I did not get a trip to Ireland. I certainly did not get a pub in Ireland. I got one can of a beverage that I don't even drink.
liking the beer was not a qualification of entry. All I'm saying is, look, I appreciate the sentiment. This is a nice PR story, but let's look at the facts. I did not get a trip to Ireland. I certainly did not get a pub in Ireland. I got one can of a beverage that I don't even drink.
And in addition to the effort that I put in 30 years ago, you have, as you mentioned, advertised the product quite extravagantly. Nevertheless, I see four cans of this beverage on the table in return.
And in addition to the effort that I put in 30 years ago, you have, as you mentioned, advertised the product quite extravagantly. Nevertheless, I see four cans of this beverage on the table in return.
Yeah, I was asked to bring in a product that I identify with or that I believe in. I'll start by saying that I try to buy very few products in my life. I believe that we can live minimally. But the products that I do buy, I want them to be of a very high quality. I want them to have something special about them. And then I have to buy fewer products going forward because they last longer.
Yeah, I was asked to bring in a product that I identify with or that I believe in. I'll start by saying that I try to buy very few products in my life. I believe that we can live minimally. But the products that I do buy, I want them to be of a very high quality. I want them to have something special about them. And then I have to buy fewer products going forward because they last longer.
Now, life used to be simple 25 years ago, okay? If you wanted to buy a nose hair trimmer in the United States... You may have bought the Panasonic ER-409. This is my own unit from about 25 years ago.
Now, life used to be simple 25 years ago, okay? If you wanted to buy a nose hair trimmer in the United States... You may have bought the Panasonic ER-409. This is my own unit from about 25 years ago.
Sure. I don't have the exact lineage of it, but that's about the time I started trimming my nose hair. I can't tell you if it started growing in then or if I just became aware of it then. But this is a relic. This is an ancient relic. If you look on the bottom, you'll see that it's made in Japan. Of course, Panasonic's headquarters. I never thought much about nose trimmers, but I didn't have to.
Sure. I don't have the exact lineage of it, but that's about the time I started trimming my nose hair. I can't tell you if it started growing in then or if I just became aware of it then. But this is a relic. This is an ancient relic. If you look on the bottom, you'll see that it's made in Japan. Of course, Panasonic's headquarters. I never thought much about nose trimmers, but I didn't have to.
I simply trimmed my nose hair with that. And you can trim ear hair as well if you choose. And that was the end of it. It was a successful operation. Yes. The operation was a success. The operation was a success. And then this product was damaged. I may have dropped it. I don't remember. It may have just failed due to its age.
I simply trimmed my nose hair with that. And you can trim ear hair as well if you choose. And that was the end of it. It was a successful operation. Yes. The operation was a success. The operation was a success. And then this product was damaged. I may have dropped it. I don't remember. It may have just failed due to its age.
You frame yourself as a sophisticate, an academic, you know, an intellect, and you're a fool. I mean, this is like, this is like toddler humor, you know? All your training has led you to this. So you are revered in the world of comedy, the elder statesman of late-night television, Harvard-educated, many decades.
You frame yourself as a sophisticate, an academic, you know, an intellect, and you're a fool. I mean, this is like, this is like toddler humor, you know? All your training has led you to this. So you are revered in the world of comedy, the elder statesman of late-night television, Harvard-educated, many decades.
Okay, I'll tell you. The Lampoon, the Harvard Lampoon, respected publication editor-in-chief of some sort. Yeah, for a freshman, I think first freshman in the history. It's okay. It's called president. Anyway, let's get off to Harvard. All right, nevertheless, I'm sorry you have a sore spot about that. No, I'm not going to talk about it.
Okay, I'll tell you. The Lampoon, the Harvard Lampoon, respected publication editor-in-chief of some sort. Yeah, for a freshman, I think first freshman in the history. It's okay. It's called president. Anyway, let's get off to Harvard. All right, nevertheless, I'm sorry you have a sore spot about that. No, I'm not going to talk about it.
about where you, I don't know what persecution you face as a Harvard graduate. No, I don't know what the sensitivity is about. I don't know what the sensitivity is. I don't know if something happened to you at Harvard that you don't want to discuss. I won't bring it up again. No, no, no. Okay. So anyway, you're revered. Comedians look up to you.
about where you, I don't know what persecution you face as a Harvard graduate. No, I don't know what the sensitivity is about. I don't know what the sensitivity is. I don't know if something happened to you at Harvard that you don't want to discuss. I won't bring it up again. No, no, no. Okay. So anyway, you're revered. Comedians look up to you.
um and a sound crew and no i don't think we've been in intimate situations always we you and i are friends we've uh hung out not no i am we are you and i have socialized with no cameras present when a multiple times there have been numerous occasions where you and i have socialized name one i'm not here to enumerate things that should be self-evident to a man that was there for these experiences
um and a sound crew and no i don't think we've been in intimate situations always we you and i are friends we've uh hung out not no i am we are you and i have socialized with no cameras present when a multiple times there have been numerous occasions where you and i have socialized name one i'm not here to enumerate things that should be self-evident to a man that was there for these experiences
You, uh, your sophistication in the comedic world, you're a combination of the silly and the high end. Um, and all of that, background and an incredible resume brought you to a little classic Fiat Cinquecento with me playing the sounds of a of a human gas release. Yeah.
You, uh, your sophistication in the comedic world, you're a combination of the silly and the high end. Um, and all of that, background and an incredible resume brought you to a little classic Fiat Cinquecento with me playing the sounds of a of a human gas release. Yeah.
Yeah. It's called a fart. Yeah. Yeah. It was very funny. You couldn't call it that.
Yeah. It's called a fart. Yeah. Yeah. It was very funny. You couldn't call it that.
It was very special to me. Yeah.
It was very special to me. Yeah.
You know, I've been to Argentina now three times. And the first two times I went, I did kind of road trips through Patagonia. And Argentina is a wonderful country, wonderful people, wonderful culture, wonderful food. You know, there are some places that you go to and you say, I had a wonderful experience here and this will carry me through the rest of my life. And this was great.
You know, I've been to Argentina now three times. And the first two times I went, I did kind of road trips through Patagonia. And Argentina is a wonderful country, wonderful people, wonderful culture, wonderful food. You know, there are some places that you go to and you say, I had a wonderful experience here and this will carry me through the rest of my life. And this was great.
And I really treasure it. But I don't necessarily think I'll ever have the opportunity or need to come back.
And I really treasure it. But I don't necessarily think I'll ever have the opportunity or need to come back.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Well, I know that regarding the culture of the Argentines, I'm certainly no expert. However, I will tell you that I know that the passion and intensity of tango flows through the blood of the Argentine people. It's on every street corner that we encounter. Tango. Tango. Tango. It's pronounced tango. Tango. Last tango in Paris. Last tango in Paris. Or more accurately, last tango in Paris.
Well, I know that regarding the culture of the Argentines, I'm certainly no expert. However, I will tell you that I know that the passion and intensity of tango flows through the blood of the Argentine people. It's on every street corner that we encounter. Tango. Tango. Tango. It's pronounced tango. Tango. Last tango in Paris. Last tango in Paris. Or more accurately, last tango in Paris.
Well, I have a respect for the culture and I try to honor the people and the way they speak. And if that infuriates you, that sounds like a problem that you need to work out. Okay, another time you got angry.
Well, I have a respect for the culture and I try to honor the people and the way they speak. And if that infuriates you, that sounds like a problem that you need to work out. Okay, another time you got angry.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Macchio.
Macchio.
You got very. Well, it's true. I made a mistake. If you'd like to believe I was angry, if that increases your enjoyment of the situation.
You got very. Well, it's true. I made a mistake. If you'd like to believe I was angry, if that increases your enjoyment of the situation.
You could believe I'm angry if you want to believe I was angry.
You could believe I'm angry if you want to believe I was angry.
It got like, look at the footage, people. My fascination with Japanese culture began with the Karate Kid Part 2. Now that movie was shot and took place in Okinawa, which is the southern part of Japan. And, well, Daniel was staying in a ryokan, which is a... Daniel?
It got like, look at the footage, people. My fascination with Japanese culture began with the Karate Kid Part 2. Now that movie was shot and took place in Okinawa, which is the southern part of Japan. And, well, Daniel was staying in a ryokan, which is a... Daniel?
You and I are friends, like it or not. It doesn't work that way.
You and I are friends, like it or not. It doesn't work that way.
Oh, yeah, Daniel-san, played by Ralph Macchio, which is actually, the Italian way pronounced Macchio, but I believe he pronounces it Macchio, and I'll respect his decision.
Oh, yeah, Daniel-san, played by Ralph Macchio, which is actually, the Italian way pronounced Macchio, but I believe he pronounces it Macchio, and I'll respect his decision.
No, no, I'm in shock.
No, no, I'm in shock.
This is not hopeful, by the way. I'd be OK if we weren't friends. Nevertheless, we are friends.
This is not hopeful, by the way. I'd be OK if we weren't friends. Nevertheless, we are friends.
I am shocked that you had our talent booker reach out to his publicist. You have the connections.
I am shocked that you had our talent booker reach out to his publicist. You have the connections.
Yeah, yes, you can.
Yeah, yes, you can.
I do not know where Ralph Macchio shot The Karate Kid 2. It's Macchio! Because I'm a fool. It's Macchio! I am a fool for not knowing where that movie was shot. It's Macchio, and I can get to him if I wanted to. It's Macchio. Do you understand? Oh, yeah. I can get to Macchio. Listen to you.
I do not know where Ralph Macchio shot The Karate Kid 2. It's Macchio! Because I'm a fool. It's Macchio! I am a fool for not knowing where that movie was shot. It's Macchio, and I can get to him if I wanted to. It's Macchio. Do you understand? Oh, yeah. I can get to Macchio. Listen to you.
You got mad. OK, well, guess what? You got mad when I took you to a very special experience in Italy. OK, here's a real story for the people out there that they may not have heard before. This is real life listening audience. OK, I we were in Florence and I want to do something special for you. You know why? Because I have an intimate knowledge of that city.
You got mad. OK, well, guess what? You got mad when I took you to a very special experience in Italy. OK, here's a real story for the people out there that they may not have heard before. This is real life listening audience. OK, I we were in Florence and I want to do something special for you. You know why? Because I have an intimate knowledge of that city.
And I said, I can provide you an experience that you can't get as a tourist.
And I said, I can provide you an experience that you can't get as a tourist.
No, no, no. This is this is what I this is the way I enhanced your life without you even being aware of it. OK, so I know that, yes, you can have a wonderful dinner in the city of Florence, but I knew a very special, magical place outside of the city in the town of Fiesole. OK, this is shortly after. I remember this. Yeah. And then I start, you know, I'm in the van enjoying our company.
No, no, no. This is this is what I this is the way I enhanced your life without you even being aware of it. OK, so I know that, yes, you can have a wonderful dinner in the city of Florence, but I knew a very special, magical place outside of the city in the town of Fiesole. OK, this is shortly after. I remember this. Yeah. And then I start, you know, I'm in the van enjoying our company.
We're talking, we're having a real experience here. The night was full of opportunity. You know, this is a wonderful experience from virtually a local to a tourist like yourself. And I start getting questions about the amount of time that we were in the van.
We're talking, we're having a real experience here. The night was full of opportunity. You know, this is a wonderful experience from virtually a local to a tourist like yourself. And I start getting questions about the amount of time that we were in the van.
Okay, so people start looking at their watches and say, this is taking a while. And I don't know what the rush was. I mean, we were done shooting for the day and we were off to a magical...
Okay, so people start looking at their watches and say, this is taking a while. And I don't know what the rush was. I mean, we were done shooting for the day and we were off to a magical...
And I could vouch for that. OK, I'll I'll accept the fact that I lied. I'll accept the fact. Let's say it was longer than eight minutes. You became infuriated by the amount of time it was. Yeah, I think I got there.
And I could vouch for that. OK, I'll I'll accept the fact that I lied. I'll accept the fact. Let's say it was longer than eight minutes. You became infuriated by the amount of time it was. Yeah, I think I got there.
The GN makes like a sound like gnocchi.
The GN makes like a sound like gnocchi.
Who's they? I pronounce it Lou Ferrigno. How do you say Hulk? Hulk? No. Hulk. Hulk? Hulk is an English word. It's actually called Hulk.
Who's they? I pronounce it Lou Ferrigno. How do you say Hulk? Hulk? No. Hulk. Hulk? Hulk is an English word. It's actually called Hulk.
No, he's not Danish.
No, he's not Danish.
Bill Bixby, that guy could make me cry. I mean, that guy, the pain, the lonely man theme composed by Joe Harnell when he would walk off in the distance, Bill Bixby, at the end of every episode. Tell me that doesn't bring tears to your eyes.
Bill Bixby, that guy could make me cry. I mean, that guy, the pain, the lonely man theme composed by Joe Harnell when he would walk off in the distance, Bill Bixby, at the end of every episode. Tell me that doesn't bring tears to your eyes.
Even like a guy like you that's always looking for the joke in this situation.
Even like a guy like you that's always looking for the joke in this situation.
He can't find companionship because he's cursed by this disease. He was exposed to gamma rays. He's cursed. He walks. He looks. He only wants companionship. He only wants to be a free man. Does this sound like you? Does this sound like you? Does this sound like you? Tell me Bill Bixby. And he was like a tortured soul in real life.
He can't find companionship because he's cursed by this disease. He was exposed to gamma rays. He's cursed. He walks. He looks. He only wants companionship. He only wants to be a free man. Does this sound like you? Does this sound like you? Does this sound like you? Tell me Bill Bixby. And he was like a tortured soul in real life.
Bill Bixby that you could see when you talk about an actor and their ability to emote people think because he was on like a fantasy TV series, they kind of discount him. I mean, the guy was like a genius actor. How do you know he was tortured? You know, there are stories about his life. He had struggles.
Bill Bixby that you could see when you talk about an actor and their ability to emote people think because he was on like a fantasy TV series, they kind of discount him. I mean, the guy was like a genius actor. How do you know he was tortured? You know, there are stories about his life. He had struggles.
Nevertheless, that guy was able to communicate these touching sentiments that are unheard of in a superhero genre.
Nevertheless, that guy was able to communicate these touching sentiments that are unheard of in a superhero genre.
Yeah, remember the bicycles on the wall? This place had bicycles on the wall.
Yeah, remember the bicycles on the wall? This place had bicycles on the wall.
That was a normal exchange, right?
That was a normal exchange, right?
I know how humans are expected to interact. Do you understand? I've witnessed this. Do you understand? I spend large amounts of time. I'm sure you did.
I know how humans are expected to interact. Do you understand? I've witnessed this. Do you understand? I spend large amounts of time. I'm sure you did.
I know how to play this game. Do you understand? I know, I know the rules. I know how to bend the rules. Yes. I know. It suspects a thing. That's right. I know how you all interact and I'm happy to play in your world. Okay. Well, just an admission here.
I know how to play this game. Do you understand? I know, I know the rules. I know how to bend the rules. Yes. I know. It suspects a thing. That's right. I know how you all interact and I'm happy to play in your world. Okay. Well, just an admission here.
No, I'm not. But are any of us really like us? Yeah. The rest of us in this room are like us. There's no us. No, no, no, they're not. People have their inner secrets, their inner deviations.
No, I'm not. But are any of us really like us? Yeah. The rest of us in this room are like us. There's no us. No, no, no, they're not. People have their inner secrets, their inner deviations.
You know, I have another very special road trip that I take and, uh, I would love to share with, uh, you again in a very intimate setting. Um, I would, I found this great combination. I would fly to Paris and I'd spent a couple of days in Paris. You have your steak frites, you have your, uh, you know, your wonderful wines. You can, um, You can explore the city.
You know, I have another very special road trip that I take and, uh, I would love to share with, uh, you again in a very intimate setting. Um, I would, I found this great combination. I would fly to Paris and I'd spent a couple of days in Paris. You have your steak frites, you have your, uh, you know, your wonderful wines. You can, um, You can explore the city.
And then I would rent a car and drive through the French countryside. I'm talking about the Loire Valley, where you stay in castles. Now, these things are actual medieval castles that are now converted into lodging and hotels. They're not like Las Vegas made to look medieval. And you'll stay in the turd of a castle. It's an incredibly romantic and ornate in these large green fields.
And then I would rent a car and drive through the French countryside. I'm talking about the Loire Valley, where you stay in castles. Now, these things are actual medieval castles that are now converted into lodging and hotels. They're not like Las Vegas made to look medieval. And you'll stay in the turd of a castle. It's an incredibly romantic and ornate in these large green fields.
This is how you connect with humans. No, no, no. This is how you connect with humans.
This is how you connect with humans. No, no, no. This is how you connect with humans.
Do you have a romantic interest? Of course I do. High romance. You ever hear of the romantics? You ever hear of the new romantics in music? The fact that you link romance with sex to me is very telling. It's very two-dimensional. Things are not always so cut and dry. I believe you and I have a very romantic relationship.
Do you have a romantic interest? Of course I do. High romance. You ever hear of the romantics? You ever hear of the new romantics in music? The fact that you link romance with sex to me is very telling. It's very two-dimensional. Things are not always so cut and dry. I believe you and I have a very romantic relationship.
She would laugh.
She would laugh.
That's not my business. The point is... The point is... Absolutely, we have a romantic relationship. You like to pretend these things away. You find yourself in this situation. I know you didn't plan it this way. I do not have romantic moments with you. I know you didn't plan it this way. Whether or not you acknowledge it doesn't discount the fact that it exists. Okay?
That's not my business. The point is... The point is... Absolutely, we have a romantic relationship. You like to pretend these things away. You find yourself in this situation. I know you didn't plan it this way. I do not have romantic moments with you. I know you didn't plan it this way. Whether or not you acknowledge it doesn't discount the fact that it exists. Okay?
We drive through the Loire Valley. We drive through Burgundy and we have local Burgundy wines. And then we drive into Switzerland through the Alps and we eat raclette and fondue. What's raclette? Raclette is a type of cheese that melts over a fire and you eat it. How do you get it out of the fire? Please, you're in the Swiss Alps. You're sitting in front of a fireplace.
We drive through the Loire Valley. We drive through Burgundy and we have local Burgundy wines. And then we drive into Switzerland through the Alps and we eat raclette and fondue. What's raclette? Raclette is a type of cheese that melts over a fire and you eat it. How do you get it out of the fire? Please, you're in the Swiss Alps. You're sitting in front of a fireplace.
High romance, high romance, driving through the mountains. And then you drive into northern Italy across the Dolomites. And maybe you end up in a town like Venice and you may think, oh, we've done Italy. Well, we did Tuscany and Lazio and you mean yeah, Venetia. And it's kind of kind of got a flavor. It's all all of its own. And I've done this trip multiple times off and alone.
High romance, high romance, driving through the mountains. And then you drive into northern Italy across the Dolomites. And maybe you end up in a town like Venice and you may think, oh, we've done Italy. Well, we did Tuscany and Lazio and you mean yeah, Venetia. And it's kind of kind of got a flavor. It's all all of its own. And I've done this trip multiple times off and alone.
2008?
2008?
Yeah. Do a restaurant? Do discount 2008? I don't remember any of this. Whether you remember it or not, it happened.
Yeah. Do a restaurant? Do discount 2008? I don't remember any of this. Whether you remember it or not, it happened.
I would love to share that experience with you. Why are you always alone? Think of us galloping through the Alps. Galloping? Yeah, galloping through the Alps. Not on a horse, but on some kind of motorized vehicle, perhaps.
I would love to share that experience with you. Why are you always alone? Think of us galloping through the Alps. Galloping? Yeah, galloping through the Alps. Not on a horse, but on some kind of motorized vehicle, perhaps.
I'm sorry, I misspoke. But just picture us just running. Remember the sound of music?
I'm sorry, I misspoke. But just picture us just running. Remember the sound of music?
Yeah, but can you envision the sentiment I'm talking about? Like picture the sound of music, which was shot, of course, in Germany. But picture that in the Swiss Alps, you and I just running through the snowy mountains.
Yeah, but can you envision the sentiment I'm talking about? Like picture the sound of music, which was shot, of course, in Germany. But picture that in the Swiss Alps, you and I just running through the snowy mountains.
I don't.
I don't.
No, we're we're gallivanting.
No, we're we're gallivanting.
No, we're gallivanting in the Alps. And then at night we're curled up in front of a fire. What are you talking about? We're wearing a blanket. You and I are not curled up together. Maybe gestad. You ever been to gestad?
No, we're gallivanting in the Alps. And then at night we're curled up in front of a fire. What are you talking about? We're wearing a blanket. You and I are not curled up together. Maybe gestad. You ever been to gestad?
So what I'm saying is.
So what I'm saying is.
We have risotto and polenta in northern Italy. We stay in the mountains there. Listen to me.
We have risotto and polenta in northern Italy. We stay in the mountains there. Listen to me.
I'm proposing. I'm making a proposition.
I'm proposing. I'm making a proposition.
You said you wanted to curl up with him in front of a fire. I would like to curl up with you in front of a fire. We're not intertwined. I'm not against it.
You said you wanted to curl up with him in front of a fire. I would like to curl up with you in front of a fire. We're not intertwined. I'm not against it.
Let me envision this. Let me envision this, okay? Yeah, paint a picture. All right, so there's a fire. Where am I? There's a fire. There's a fireplace. We're on the floor. There's a rug. There's some melted cheese on the log. Yeah. There is. There's an oval rug. Why is it oval? Because it'll fit both of us. It's an oval rug.
Let me envision this. Let me envision this, okay? Yeah, paint a picture. All right, so there's a fire. Where am I? There's a fire. There's a fireplace. We're on the floor. There's a rug. There's some melted cheese on the log. Yeah. There is. There's an oval rug. Why is it oval? Because it'll fit both of us. It's an oval rug.
Yeah. Do a Upper East Side. You lived on the Upper West Side. But did we did we have tickets to this Shakespeare in the Park? We came. This was serendipitous to understand some of the greatest organic moments in life are unplanned. We didn't know we'd have a magical night that night. Nevertheless, we did. You know, we remembered it. Yeah. We started out with a wonderful dinner, of course.
Yeah. Do a Upper East Side. You lived on the Upper West Side. But did we did we have tickets to this Shakespeare in the Park? We came. This was serendipitous to understand some of the greatest organic moments in life are unplanned. We didn't know we'd have a magical night that night. Nevertheless, we did. You know, we remembered it. Yeah. We started out with a wonderful dinner, of course.
Yeah, we're going to be down on the floor and you're on the left side of the oval rug and I'm on the right side of the oval rug. I want the right. I want the right. Okay, fine. We're wearing flannel pajamas and we've got a fondue pot and we're roasting our bread. What are we drinking? Maybe apples. Oh, I'm glad you asked. You know, Switzerland has some great wines. They're very expensive.
Yeah, we're going to be down on the floor and you're on the left side of the oval rug and I'm on the right side of the oval rug. I want the right. I want the right. Okay, fine. We're wearing flannel pajamas and we've got a fondue pot and we're roasting our bread. What are we drinking? Maybe apples. Oh, I'm glad you asked. You know, Switzerland has some great wines. They're very expensive.
In fact, many Swiss will buy like Italian wines because
In fact, many Swiss will buy like Italian wines because
You're like concentrating on the wrong things. Our bodily positions are not necessarily important. What's important here?
You're like concentrating on the wrong things. Our bodily positions are not necessarily important. What's important here?
Like spooning. Well, not necessarily. Possibly.
Like spooning. Well, not necessarily. Possibly.
I don't care. These are you're dwelling on the wrong things.
I don't care. These are you're dwelling on the wrong things.
If our bodies should touch, I don't even necessarily notice it. It could happen accidentally. That's not my goal, nor am I trying to avoid it. The point is, here we sit in Los Angeles in an urban environment. Now picture this is the wonder of travel. Picture us now in the Swiss Alps curled up in front of a fire together.
If our bodies should touch, I don't even necessarily notice it. It could happen accidentally. That's not my goal, nor am I trying to avoid it. The point is, here we sit in Los Angeles in an urban environment. Now picture this is the wonder of travel. Picture us now in the Swiss Alps curled up in front of a fire together.
That just seems so distant, almost like you're trying to avoid me.
That just seems so distant, almost like you're trying to avoid me.
That's all. Yes. Well, I have specific castles that I have stayed in and I would love to spend time in with you. And just picture large fields in France running through the fields. Why are we running?
That's all. Yes. Well, I have specific castles that I have stayed in and I would love to spend time in with you. And just picture large fields in France running through the fields. Why are we running?
What I'm saying is when you see a large expanse of green grass, okay? Mm-hmm. France is like a green country, isn't that doesn't seem like a green country to you. Like, do you see colors when you like if I say like the number, like if I say 1983, do you see yellow? Nope. No. If I say the 1990s, do you see red? How long have you been experiencing these headaches?
What I'm saying is when you see a large expanse of green grass, okay? Mm-hmm. France is like a green country, isn't that doesn't seem like a green country to you. Like, do you see colors when you like if I say like the number, like if I say 1983, do you see yellow? Nope. No. If I say the 1990s, do you see red? How long have you been experiencing these headaches?
What I'm saying is you don't associate color with different words or places? No, I don't.
What I'm saying is you don't associate color with different words or places? No, I don't.
1985, red. 1986, blue. 1987, green. 1988, yellow again. 1989, red again. You don't see that? I'm pulling the rip cord. Okay.
1985, red. 1986, blue. 1987, green. 1988, yellow again. 1989, red again. You don't see that? I'm pulling the rip cord. Okay.
No, no, this is not a joke. This is a real thing. I see colors. There's no way. Frank, get this analyzed. When I see certain words or places, okay, France is a green country. I picture large green fields and you and I just running through the fields. MRI. You need to have an MRI.
No, no, this is not a joke. This is a real thing. I see colors. There's no way. Frank, get this analyzed. When I see certain words or places, okay, France is a green country. I picture large green fields and you and I just running through the fields. MRI. You need to have an MRI.
As opposed to computerized axial tomography, a CAT scan. Do you know laser stands for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation? Do you know that scuba stands for self-contained underwater breathing apparatus?
As opposed to computerized axial tomography, a CAT scan. Do you know laser stands for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation? Do you know that scuba stands for self-contained underwater breathing apparatus?
Yeah, of course I remember what I had. I had the Polo Scarpa Yellow. Jesus! Yeah, and I had the Tortino for dessert. Do you remember what I had? I had, by the way, a Brancaia Tre to drink. Well, that usually goes away with a little... No, no, no. I don't know what you had. That was your responsibility. But after that, we walked.
Yeah, of course I remember what I had. I had the Polo Scarpa Yellow. Jesus! Yeah, and I had the Tortino for dessert. Do you remember what I had? I had, by the way, a Brancaia Tre to drink. Well, that usually goes away with a little... No, no, no. I don't know what you had. That was your responsibility. But after that, we walked.
Look for the piano version by Joe. Oh, yes. Oh my gosh.
Look for the piano version by Joe. Oh, yes. Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's consuming me.
Yeah, it's consuming me.
David Banner in the TV series, Bruce Banner in the comics. Changed on purpose by the series creator.
David Banner in the TV series, Bruce Banner in the comics. Changed on purpose by the series creator.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You came up with... You're a man that loves to walk, and that's a great quality. I love walking. Although you have access to many transportation options, you like to walk. I do. We've walked in many places.
You came up with... You're a man that loves to walk, and that's a great quality. I love walking. Although you have access to many transportation options, you like to walk. I do. We've walked in many places.
No, we came across. It was some kind of Shakespeare production backstage. And you and I stood there and we watched it. We stood there and we had a moment, a magical, magical moment. And then we photographed your apartment. You did this great thing where it was late at night. Oh, that's right. I remember you doing this.
No, we came across. It was some kind of Shakespeare production backstage. And you and I stood there and we watched it. We stood there and we had a moment, a magical, magical moment. And then we photographed your apartment. You did this great thing where it was late at night. Oh, that's right. I remember you doing this.
What I'm saying is you got paid. We don't know when magical experiences will happen to us. We try to plan these things. We say, oh, I'm going to have a special occasion night. And you plan and then things inevitably go wrong. And then magic happens when you least expect it. That night was magic. One of many magical nights and days that you and I have had all across the planet.
What I'm saying is you got paid. We don't know when magical experiences will happen to us. We try to plan these things. We say, oh, I'm going to have a special occasion night. And you plan and then things inevitably go wrong. And then magic happens when you least expect it. That night was magic. One of many magical nights and days that you and I have had all across the planet.
It was longer than two weeks ago. Was it three weeks ago? It was longer than three weeks ago. It was a very nice young lady from Toronto. I love Canadians. I spent a lot of time in Ontario specifically, also British Columbia.
It was longer than two weeks ago. Was it three weeks ago? It was longer than three weeks ago. It was a very nice young lady from Toronto. I love Canadians. I spent a lot of time in Ontario specifically, also British Columbia.
Where are you getting these incorrect facts from? No, there was no Canadian girlfriend.
Where are you getting these incorrect facts from? No, there was no Canadian girlfriend.
Yes.
Yes.
In what sense do you ask that question?
In what sense do you ask that question?
Yes.
Yes.
I was asked to do an interview. Was it cleared?
I was asked to do an interview. Was it cleared?
People that needed to know knew.
People that needed to know knew.
You and I don't have a line of dialogue for these matters. The people that needed to know knew. OK, I'm going to let it go. It was discussed. Yeah, it was. It was approved in all. I'm going to.
You and I don't have a line of dialogue for these matters. The people that needed to know knew. OK, I'm going to let it go. It was discussed. Yeah, it was. It was approved in all. I'm going to.
I'm sure you want people to speak freely under your employ. You have nothing to hide. No, I don't. Yes. I have thoughts about the series as you do.
I'm sure you want people to speak freely under your employ. You have nothing to hide. No, I don't. Yes. I have thoughts about the series as you do.
I have original thoughts.
I have original thoughts.
My point is, I have deep thoughts, okay?
My point is, I have deep thoughts, okay?
Yes. Nevertheless, the thoughts are there, and sometimes people want me to express them. I express the thoughts, and no harm done.
Yes. Nevertheless, the thoughts are there, and sometimes people want me to express them. I express the thoughts, and no harm done.
I think in the early remotes, I was still approaching this aware of the fact that Conan was clearly my boss. And I was kind of I felt an obligation to be subservient and play the role of the employee. But I guess
I think in the early remotes, I was still approaching this aware of the fact that Conan was clearly my boss. And I was kind of I felt an obligation to be subservient and play the role of the employee. But I guess
Gradually over the years, I've been able to put that aside while we're on camera and act just like I would be naturally inclined to act should someone approach me in the manner that he does. So in that sense, I think it's probably more truer to our actual relationship as opposed to like employer-employee. Wow.
Gradually over the years, I've been able to put that aside while we're on camera and act just like I would be naturally inclined to act should someone approach me in the manner that he does. So in that sense, I think it's probably more truer to our actual relationship as opposed to like employer-employee. Wow.
I would hope that any relationship between human creatures or even animal creatures undergoes undergoes change over time.
I would hope that any relationship between human creatures or even animal creatures undergoes undergoes change over time.
Yeah. So you I mean, if such statements make you feel more powerful, I'm not going to challenge them. They do. Yes.
Yeah. So you I mean, if such statements make you feel more powerful, I'm not going to challenge them. They do. Yes.
If you needed that reinforcement, you've got it.
If you needed that reinforcement, you've got it.
Yeah. This is good. I thought you did a good job.
Yeah. This is good. I thought you did a good job.
Well, the reality of the situation is, despite how it may or may not appear, speaking for myself, I love traveling with Conan. I love spending time with him. I love spending time with him in foreign environments. I do truly think that when
Well, the reality of the situation is, despite how it may or may not appear, speaking for myself, I love traveling with Conan. I love spending time with him. I love spending time with him in foreign environments. I do truly think that when
you travel your experience any kind of new event with someone you know it does bring you closer together you not only experience things firsthand but reflected in somebody else's eyes as well i genuinely have so many warm memories of traveling to argentina and other places with him we would have wonderful dinners and we would talk about you know the food that we're eating and and the local nature of that food and
you travel your experience any kind of new event with someone you know it does bring you closer together you not only experience things firsthand but reflected in somebody else's eyes as well i genuinely have so many warm memories of traveling to argentina and other places with him we would have wonderful dinners and we would talk about you know the food that we're eating and and the local nature of that food and
the culture around us. And it may surprise people to know that we really get along. And I would like to think he enjoys my company as much as I enjoy his. Oh, wow.
the culture around us. And it may surprise people to know that we really get along. And I would like to think he enjoys my company as much as I enjoy his. Oh, wow.
I don't have the resources that you have. Do you understand this? I'm a man among men. Yes, a human man. I've got media trained in this regard. I do the best I can.
I don't have the resources that you have. Do you understand this? I'm a man among men. Yes, a human man. I've got media trained in this regard. I do the best I can.
I think it's a testament to our closeness that we can be at each other's throats and still endure.
I think it's a testament to our closeness that we can be at each other's throats and still endure.
That's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
Yeah, of course I remember going to Italy. Do you understand? That was a pivotal moment in my life. But I'll tell you something about that trip. That trip was a part of my life even before you and I went. That was a trip that I had done many times before, and that made it extra personal for me because I was able to share with a beloved companion these moments that have been so special to me.
Yeah, of course I remember going to Italy. Do you understand? That was a pivotal moment in my life. But I'll tell you something about that trip. That trip was a part of my life even before you and I went. That was a trip that I had done many times before, and that made it extra personal for me because I was able to share with a beloved companion these moments that have been so special to me.
Well, I think with any intimate relationship, there are going to be ups and downs. We've never been intimate. I believe we're intimate right now.
Well, I think with any intimate relationship, there are going to be ups and downs. We've never been intimate. I believe we're intimate right now.
Beloved companion? Yeah, you're a beloved companion. The point is I travel alone typically, and as much as I like- You travel alone? Yeah, I often travel alone as much as I like the freedom that comes with traveling alone in the moments of introspection, sitting in a piazza at 2 a.m. and just watching people go by and pondering the universe. You creep.
Beloved companion? Yeah, you're a beloved companion. The point is I travel alone typically, and as much as I like- You travel alone? Yeah, I often travel alone as much as I like the freedom that comes with traveling alone in the moments of introspection, sitting in a piazza at 2 a.m. and just watching people go by and pondering the universe. You creep.
The point is, sometimes you want to share these experiences with somebody. And I was happy to have the opportunity to share this exact experience with you.
The point is, sometimes you want to share these experiences with somebody. And I was happy to have the opportunity to share this exact experience with you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Firenze.
Firenze.
Yeah, Firenze. Firenze. Yeah. Say it again. One more time. Firenze.
Yeah, Firenze. Firenze. Yeah. Say it again. One more time. Firenze.
Yeah. It's one of those, you know, some countries go by the same name in English as they do in a native country. That's one that has changed quite a bit, hasn't it? Florence is Firenze. Rome, of course, Roma. Do you have any others you'd like to... Venice, Venezia.
Yeah. It's one of those, you know, some countries go by the same name in English as they do in a native country. That's one that has changed quite a bit, hasn't it? Florence is Firenze. Rome, of course, Roma. Do you have any others you'd like to... Venice, Venezia.
Yeah, Pisa is actually the same. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to ruin your theory.
Yeah, Pisa is actually the same. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to ruin your theory.
Yeah, Napoli. Very good. Yeah, that's impressive.
Yeah, Napoli. Very good. Yeah, that's impressive.
So basically... Kind of a sending piece of shit. Yeah, when you ask... I'll tell you some of my favorite moments. Okay, when you ask, I've connected with these places on a spiritual level, okay, but often alone. And I'd come back and I would talk to you about my trip and you at least pretended to be interested at the time when we come back from hiatus. Yeah, exactly.
So basically... Kind of a sending piece of shit. Yeah, when you ask... I'll tell you some of my favorite moments. Okay, when you ask, I've connected with these places on a spiritual level, okay, but often alone. And I'd come back and I would talk to you about my trip and you at least pretended to be interested at the time when we come back from hiatus. Yeah, exactly.
And then to be there with you at La Logetta or some of these Sorbillo Pizzeria, some of these exact places where I've spent so many years was quite moving for me.
And then to be there with you at La Logetta or some of these Sorbillo Pizzeria, some of these exact places where I've spent so many years was quite moving for me.
Maybe it is. Yeah. We've certainly been intimate. You cannot deny that you and I have been in intimate situations.
Maybe it is. Yeah. We've certainly been intimate. You cannot deny that you and I have been in intimate situations.
Oh, yes. Celli di Toscana. Yeah, specifically Andrea Bocelli's Celli di Toscana. And let me tell you something.
Oh, yes. Celli di Toscana. Yeah, specifically Andrea Bocelli's Celli di Toscana. And let me tell you something.
Well, I don't feel like it accurately reflects my work performance. I think I bring value to my employment. I think I bring value to your life as a friend and compatriot. I think I'd like to think I'd like to think that your life is of a better quality for having known me.
Well, I don't feel like it accurately reflects my work performance. I think I bring value to my employment. I think I bring value to your life as a friend and compatriot. I think I'd like to think I'd like to think that your life is of a better quality for having known me.
Maybe that is arrogant in some fashion, but I'd like to think we have a mutually respectful relationship. I certainly respect you. You're an extraordinary man.
Maybe that is arrogant in some fashion, but I'd like to think we have a mutually respectful relationship. I certainly respect you. You're an extraordinary man.
Now, now what is the proper context for that? Let's be, let's be realistic. Okay. We've known each other for decades. Um, and we work in a very intimate environment, uh, many hours we've been through tough times and, um, Good times. Seen each other grow. Been there for each other through thick and thin. I've seen emotional damage. I've seen physical damage. What are you talking about?
Now, now what is the proper context for that? Let's be, let's be realistic. Okay. We've known each other for decades. Um, and we work in a very intimate environment, uh, many hours we've been through tough times and, um, Good times. Seen each other grow. Been there for each other through thick and thin. I've seen emotional damage. I've seen physical damage. What are you talking about?
I've seen injury. I've seen you concussed. Yeah. Yes, I've seen you in your lowest emotional state and your highest emotional state, often within a one hour period. Yeah. And and with that intimacy, with that intimacy, because we are human beings and this is not a robotic interaction.
I've seen injury. I've seen you concussed. Yeah. Yes, I've seen you in your lowest emotional state and your highest emotional state, often within a one hour period. Yeah. And and with that intimacy, with that intimacy, because we are human beings and this is not a robotic interaction.
Most human beings just what I'm saying is there are going to be ups and downs. Yes, of course. I respect you and I think you're a great man. Are you without injury to me? Have there been injurious experiences? Of course there have. And I accept that as part of the human experience. We can speak of them if you like.
Most human beings just what I'm saying is there are going to be ups and downs. Yes, of course. I respect you and I think you're a great man. Are you without injury to me? Have there been injurious experiences? Of course there have. And I accept that as part of the human experience. We can speak of them if you like.
Well, listen, again, we have to present proper context. Of course, I'm concerned about your health and your longevity, both from a practical financial standpoint and also a human relationship standpoint. If I see you partaking in unhealthy behavior, I'd like to think we're at a stage where I can mention it to you respectfully.
Well, listen, again, we have to present proper context. Of course, I'm concerned about your health and your longevity, both from a practical financial standpoint and also a human relationship standpoint. If I see you partaking in unhealthy behavior, I'd like to think we're at a stage where I can mention it to you respectfully.
Yeah, it started at the end of 2001. It was right after that. And by 2003, you had corrected.
Yeah, it started at the end of 2001. It was right after that. And by 2003, you had corrected.
Thank you, John. I can't confirm that I use that word, but I have no reason to doubt you.
Thank you, John. I can't confirm that I use that word, but I have no reason to doubt you.
When I called you the beast, was I referring to your physical condition or was I referring to maybe an emotional attack that you performed on me?
When I called you the beast, was I referring to your physical condition or was I referring to maybe an emotional attack that you performed on me?
I don't even know anymore. Well, if you prefer to speak about injurious behavior, we can. You've clearly brought up something that bothers you, this comment that I allegedly made.
I don't even know anymore. Well, if you prefer to speak about injurious behavior, we can. You've clearly brought up something that bothers you, this comment that I allegedly made.
Yeah, you know, I'm noticing right now on the right corner of your mouth, I'm curious, above all, scientifically speaking, you two are doctors. Doctor comes from the Latin docere, or in the ecclesiastical pronunciation, docere. It actually means to teach, which is perfectly suited to you two. Right. I'm just curious scientifically, how does it happen? Like you have a mirror, you're shaving.
Yeah, you know, I'm noticing right now on the right corner of your mouth, I'm curious, above all, scientifically speaking, you two are doctors. Doctor comes from the Latin docere, or in the ecclesiastical pronunciation, docere. It actually means to teach, which is perfectly suited to you two. Right. I'm just curious scientifically, how does it happen? Like you have a mirror, you're shaving.
How do you miss such large chunks of hair on the corners of your mouth? And I'm not trying to insult you. I know conventionally speaking, it sounds like I am. I'm really, as a scientist, how does it happen? I'm just very curious.
How do you miss such large chunks of hair on the corners of your mouth? And I'm not trying to insult you. I know conventionally speaking, it sounds like I am. I'm really, as a scientist, how does it happen? I'm just very curious.
This is bad for both. Can I respectfully ask, which I think is constructive, if I notice large patches of unshaved hair on your face, would you prefer if I remain silent and don't bring it to your attention? Like if you walk in and you just have a huge patch of hair maybe on your head. Adam's apple, for example. You prefer that I note it internally.
This is bad for both. Can I respectfully ask, which I think is constructive, if I notice large patches of unshaved hair on your face, would you prefer if I remain silent and don't bring it to your attention? Like if you walk in and you just have a huge patch of hair maybe on your head. Adam's apple, for example. You prefer that I note it internally.
Well, first of all, you're implying that the hair is growing out so much. I'm just simply asking you.
Well, first of all, you're implying that the hair is growing out so much. I'm just simply asking you.
I have seen it. I have seen such wild growth in a very specific area. Can I just say one thing?
I have seen it. I have seen such wild growth in a very specific area. Can I just say one thing?
Okay, I will be quiet. I will note it to myself.
Okay, I will be quiet. I will note it to myself.
maybe before taping. And bring to your attention your errors, your shaving errors in private. Okay, pause. Yes.
maybe before taping. And bring to your attention your errors, your shaving errors in private. Okay, pause. Yes.
Oh.
Oh.
Well, I don't assume his intention was to miss the hair, so I consider it an objective analysis.
Well, I don't assume his intention was to miss the hair, so I consider it an objective analysis.
I cannot.
I cannot.
You don't know, right? Yes, I don't know.
You don't know, right? Yes, I don't know.
It certainly doesn't matter, but I think when there's an elephant in the room, when a man walks in, who's 95% shaved and there's just hair jetting out of his cheek. I just think it's worth mentioning. I don't mean any insult. I don't mean any insult. It's easily fixable. It's not a slight on your character. We all make mistakes. I make mistakes.
It certainly doesn't matter, but I think when there's an elephant in the room, when a man walks in, who's 95% shaved and there's just hair jetting out of his cheek. I just think it's worth mentioning. I don't mean any insult. I don't mean any insult. It's easily fixable. It's not a slight on your character. We all make mistakes. I make mistakes.
They're not related to large tufts of hair on my face. But I just think that as human beings, we have to acknowledge something so painfully obvious that was somehow missed. With all your technology, mirrors, you have lighting in your bathroom. But I'll do as you say and pull you aside and let you know.
They're not related to large tufts of hair on my face. But I just think that as human beings, we have to acknowledge something so painfully obvious that was somehow missed. With all your technology, mirrors, you have lighting in your bathroom. But I'll do as you say and pull you aside and let you know.
These are your insults that I didn't know where the Karate Kid 2 was filmed?
These are your insults that I didn't know where the Karate Kid 2 was filmed?
Ralph Macchio. It's Macchio. In fact, the C-H makes a hard C sound like Pinocchio.
Ralph Macchio. It's Macchio. In fact, the C-H makes a hard C sound like Pinocchio.
I see.
I see.
Yes. I imagine a world where one can share information, where human beings can increase their collective intellect by sharing information. I've learned some things. You've learned some things. You tell me what you know. I'll tell you what I know. So so you may not know that the C.H. is pronounced with the heart. And that's understandable. I wouldn't expect it to.
Yes. I imagine a world where one can share information, where human beings can increase their collective intellect by sharing information. I've learned some things. You've learned some things. You tell me what you know. I'll tell you what I know. So so you may not know that the C.H. is pronounced with the heart. And that's understandable. I wouldn't expect it to.
Italian is not your first language, but unlike you. And you certainly know things that I don't know. Presidential history, for example. And we can share with each other and we can both come out smarter and more knowledgeable for it. I don't see the contempt. Yes.
Italian is not your first language, but unlike you. And you certainly know things that I don't know. Presidential history, for example. And we can share with each other and we can both come out smarter and more knowledgeable for it. I don't see the contempt. Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
So you would prefer, respectfully, if I may ask, so I know how it's going forward.
So you would prefer, respectfully, if I may ask, so I know how it's going forward.
You would prefer if I do not correct your mispronunciations, allow you to speak with your customary authority, even when I know that you are making errors. Or maybe pull you aside, right? Before the taping and tell you?
You would prefer if I do not correct your mispronunciations, allow you to speak with your customary authority, even when I know that you are making errors. Or maybe pull you aside, right? Before the taping and tell you?
You're just wrong all the time. I let him finish. I did not interrupt him. Even though my instinct was to say immediately, that is incorrect. It is the tango. You see, in Spanish and Spanish-speaking countries, known as Hispanic, which differs from Latin American in the sense that Latin American refers to only Latin American countries. Hispanic, it's any country that speaks Spanish.
You're just wrong all the time. I let him finish. I did not interrupt him. Even though my instinct was to say immediately, that is incorrect. It is the tango. You see, in Spanish and Spanish-speaking countries, known as Hispanic, which differs from Latin American in the sense that Latin American refers to only Latin American countries. Hispanic, it's any country that speaks Spanish.
The A is almost always pronounced ah. So...
The A is almost always pronounced ah. So...
What exactly was the assignment?
What exactly was the assignment?
Well, I mean, we're two men in an incredibly intimate situation. I think that we.
Well, I mean, we're two men in an incredibly intimate situation. I think that we.
Intimacy is not necessarily sexual, although often is.
Intimacy is not necessarily sexual, although often is.
And the humor is really fun. This is amazing. I've never thought of it that way. I'd like to think that we represent the human condition with all of its ups and downs. Oh, my God. You said this speech earlier before they came in. People may find this realistic approach to life endearing and they may enjoy watching for that reason. I'm sorry I've hurt you with my... Misinformation.
And the humor is really fun. This is amazing. I've never thought of it that way. I'd like to think that we represent the human condition with all of its ups and downs. Oh, my God. You said this speech earlier before they came in. People may find this realistic approach to life endearing and they may enjoy watching for that reason. I'm sorry I've hurt you with my... Misinformation.
No, they didn't shoot it in Los Angeles. They shot it in Hawaii.
No, they didn't shoot it in Los Angeles. They shot it in Hawaii.
Okay, but you didn't say Hawaii, did you? I just said Hawaii now.
Okay, but you didn't say Hawaii, did you? I just said Hawaii now.
I've improved myself. I'm sorry. I've improved myself.
I've improved myself. I'm sorry. I've improved myself.
I'm open to improvement.
I'm open to improvement.
Yes.
Yes.
You're right. Yes. You see, my intentions were never evil. Just as I know your intentions were never evil when you've committed injury against me in the past. When have I committed? Well, it's interesting that you ask because we spent the first hour talking. talking about the ways I've damaged you by answering questions by... Let him run just a little bit. Let's hear this. Go ahead.
You're right. Yes. You see, my intentions were never evil. Just as I know your intentions were never evil when you've committed injury against me in the past. When have I committed? Well, it's interesting that you ask because we spent the first hour talking. talking about the ways I've damaged you by answering questions by... Let him run just a little bit. Let's hear this. Go ahead.
Now, again, I want to preface this by saying I expect, when you're talking about decades of intimate relationships, that there are going to be inadvertent slights to the other person, okay? Uh... The year was 1999, May 1999, and the world had not seen a new Star Wars movie release in 16 years. And at the time, the Star Wars franchise was pristine. You have to understand, put yourself back then.
Now, again, I want to preface this by saying I expect, when you're talking about decades of intimate relationships, that there are going to be inadvertent slights to the other person, okay? Uh... The year was 1999, May 1999, and the world had not seen a new Star Wars movie release in 16 years. And at the time, the Star Wars franchise was pristine. You have to understand, put yourself back then.
And they announced that a new Star Wars film would be coming out in May 1999. And I was a big fan. You know, my brothers were as well. And I decided to pull out all the stops and get tickets to an advanced screening of this movie a week before the public would see this. Now, you may think media screenings are all civilized, but when it comes to Star Wars, people still line up three hours before.
And they announced that a new Star Wars film would be coming out in May 1999. And I was a big fan. You know, my brothers were as well. And I decided to pull out all the stops and get tickets to an advanced screening of this movie a week before the public would see this. Now, you may think media screenings are all civilized, but when it comes to Star Wars, people still line up three hours before.
So my brother came into New York City on the train. He spent hours. We got there maybe four hours in advance, and we just sat on the sidewalk together waiting for this momentous occasion. And we were one of the first ones in the theater, and we sat right in the center.
So my brother came into New York City on the train. He spent hours. We got there maybe four hours in advance, and we just sat on the sidewalk together waiting for this momentous occasion. And we were one of the first ones in the theater, and we sat right in the center.
judged how many rows were there we wanted the full surround sound experience we wanted to get lost in it and of course the theater filled up and i was thinking any fool that walks in now is going to be like in the back corner and i was envisioning the magic of that moment after it says a long time ago in a galaxy far far away before the john williams score do you guys have anywhere to go
judged how many rows were there we wanted the full surround sound experience we wanted to get lost in it and of course the theater filled up and i was thinking any fool that walks in now is going to be like in the back corner and i was envisioning the magic of that moment after it says a long time ago in a galaxy far far away before the john williams score do you guys have anywhere to go
I was envisioning it bringing me back to my childhood. I wanted to relive what it was like to be an innocent child with my brother, okay? So about two minutes before the movie starts, I hear some commotion behind me. And this guy stumbles in with this like...
I was envisioning it bringing me back to my childhood. I wanted to relive what it was like to be an innocent child with my brother, okay? So about two minutes before the movie starts, I hear some commotion behind me. And this guy stumbles in with this like...
Well, they're not mutually exclusive concepts.
Well, they're not mutually exclusive concepts.
brainy npr type woman with with him and they excuse me excuse me some woman is escorting them because they're like elite and there just happened to have been i guess someone left or something two seats right behind me in the center i had been there for five hours this guy stumbles in wait he's like tripping he's like tripping over people so he sits down stumble i wasn't drinking
brainy npr type woman with with him and they excuse me excuse me some woman is escorting them because they're like elite and there just happened to have been i guess someone left or something two seats right behind me in the center i had been there for five hours this guy stumbles in wait he's like tripping he's like tripping over people so he sits down stumble i wasn't drinking
No, you kicked people. You were like one of those people. Inadvertently, you tripped over people. So now you're sitting behind me and you start gabbing to me. And already, I don't want to talk to anybody. I just want to get lost in this moment, okay? So the lights go down and the 20th Century Fox logo comes up. And I'm thinking to myself, this is it. After 16 years, this is it.
No, you kicked people. You were like one of those people. Inadvertently, you tripped over people. So now you're sitting behind me and you start gabbing to me. And already, I don't want to talk to anybody. I just want to get lost in this moment, okay? So the lights go down and the 20th Century Fox logo comes up. And I'm thinking to myself, this is it. After 16 years, this is it.
Yes.
Yes.
And that silence comes right after that fanfare before the flourishing music. And this guy leans forward and starts cracking jokes. This guy makes it all about him. He takes me completely out of the moment. He starts dabbing in the middle of the movie theater and you just needed that laugh. You had to take that moment, not knowing the history of what I went through to get that laugh.
And that silence comes right after that fanfare before the flourishing music. And this guy leans forward and starts cracking jokes. This guy makes it all about him. He takes me completely out of the moment. He starts dabbing in the middle of the movie theater and you just needed that laugh. You had to take that moment, not knowing the history of what I went through to get that laugh.
And, you know, he's sitting there chuckling and forever you've taken that moment away from me. Now, I know that it was not intentional. He may not have had respect for the situation, and most people know that they're not supposed to speak in a movie theater, especially something of that magnitude. I knew those sequels wouldn't be good.
And, you know, he's sitting there chuckling and forever you've taken that moment away from me. Now, I know that it was not intentional. He may not have had respect for the situation, and most people know that they're not supposed to speak in a movie theater, especially something of that magnitude. I knew those sequels wouldn't be good.
And I think I communicated to him my interest in what was happening and my disregard for anything that he may have had to say. Will you admit now that those movies were not great? Yes, in retrospect, they were not necessarily as good as the first.
And I think I communicated to him my interest in what was happening and my disregard for anything that he may have had to say. Will you admit now that those movies were not great? Yes, in retrospect, they were not necessarily as good as the first.
Are you asking me about these things? Are you just telling me that you dislike me for real and you dream about terminating my employment?
Are you asking me about these things? Are you just telling me that you dislike me for real and you dream about terminating my employment?
I am sorry if I have reminded you of your father. I'm sorry if I have brought you back to painful moments in your childhood when I told you how to pronounce Ralph Macchio's name. It's Macchio. No, it's Macchio. I am sorry if some of my information sharing has been offensive. I certainly didn't mean it that way.
I am sorry if I have reminded you of your father. I'm sorry if I have brought you back to painful moments in your childhood when I told you how to pronounce Ralph Macchio's name. It's Macchio. No, it's Macchio. I am sorry if some of my information sharing has been offensive. I certainly didn't mean it that way.
I may have made mistakes like any other human being. I don't know that's a reason to discount my entire credibility. Going forward, I will make an attempt if I notice a large patch of hair on your face that you miss shaving, I will make an attempt to tell you privately as per your request. Thank you.
I may have made mistakes like any other human being. I don't know that's a reason to discount my entire credibility. Going forward, I will make an attempt if I notice a large patch of hair on your face that you miss shaving, I will make an attempt to tell you privately as per your request. Thank you.
Also, I will ask you if I have something to share that's relevant to what we're speaking about, some facts, Latin origins of words or other etymology. I will ask you first, do you want to hear what I have to say? I don't want to, ever. Well, it depends on the context.
Also, I will ask you if I have something to share that's relevant to what we're speaking about, some facts, Latin origins of words or other etymology. I will ask you first, do you want to hear what I have to say? I don't want to, ever. Well, it depends on the context.
Thank you. That is a very valid question. You see, I don't honestly don't look at it as correcting. I look at it as sharing information.
Thank you. That is a very valid question. You see, I don't honestly don't look at it as correcting. I look at it as sharing information.
Let's come out of this as enhanced human beings.
Let's come out of this as enhanced human beings.
Yes.
Yes.
I'd like to think that over time we have built up a foundation of love and understanding to the point where we can exchange information and not have it necessarily interpreted as hostile.
I'd like to think that over time we have built up a foundation of love and understanding to the point where we can exchange information and not have it necessarily interpreted as hostile.
I see your face and I just want to smash it. I've learned. I've learned today. I've learned that you're in pain. And now I understand why. And I will envision you as a helpless child competing with other siblings.
I see your face and I just want to smash it. I've learned. I've learned today. I've learned that you're in pain. And now I understand why. And I will envision you as a helpless child competing with other siblings.
I will envision you doubting your own self-worth. There's the contempt. Well, this way I understand his pain and his vulnerabilities, his weakness, if you will. Do you really? Yes.
I will envision you doubting your own self-worth. There's the contempt. Well, this way I understand his pain and his vulnerabilities, his weakness, if you will. Do you really? Yes.
I can imagine. I put myself in his situation, okay? He's got a lot of siblings. Now, look at his father.
I can imagine. I put myself in his situation, okay? He's got a lot of siblings. Now, look at his father.
Some would say that's a healthy sibling interaction.
Some would say that's a healthy sibling interaction.
Never again. I don't intend to slander your father nor any of O'Brien's, Neil, Justin, Kate, Jane, any of them. You know them all.
Never again. I don't intend to slander your father nor any of O'Brien's, Neil, Justin, Kate, Jane, any of them. You know them all.
I think it's 76 years. Haley's. Oh, excuse me. I have information about Haley's comment. Would you like to hear it?
I think it's 76 years. Haley's. Oh, excuse me. I have information about Haley's comment. Would you like to hear it?
I understand from an entitled perspective, you may think you can move through life without worrying about obstacles and just go where you please, but there are icebergs out there and you do need to navigate them like any other human.
I understand from an entitled perspective, you may think you can move through life without worrying about obstacles and just go where you please, but there are icebergs out there and you do need to navigate them like any other human.
Why do you say I'm large? I'm tall. Why do you say I'm large? I'm a mesomorph. I'm very average. I'm medium. Okay. Moderate.
Why do you say I'm large? I'm tall. Why do you say I'm large? I'm a mesomorph. I'm very average. I'm medium. Okay. Moderate.
It feels special. Something's going on here.
It feels special. Something's going on here.
Yes. We're sitting in different positions. There's like a hubbub going on. And I don't know why.
Yes. We're sitting in different positions. There's like a hubbub going on. And I don't know why.
And I'll say that I've never met you two before, but you have the air of incredibly kind people. There's something there's a vibe that you two have that makes me feel like I've known you for.
And I'll say that I've never met you two before, but you have the air of incredibly kind people. There's something there's a vibe that you two have that makes me feel like I've known you for.
What are the numbers? 99 and 130. Yep. What does that mean?
What are the numbers? 99 and 130. Yep. What does that mean?
I don't know how this has been calibrated. I can't verify its accuracy.
I don't know how this has been calibrated. I can't verify its accuracy.
I see.
I see.
So these are evolutionary responses designed to protect us against a threat, against a large prehistoric animal that may be attacking us. Our body reacts in a way that will really ensure our survival. And my reaction to this... animal is in the end to benefit my own survival.
So these are evolutionary responses designed to protect us against a threat, against a large prehistoric animal that may be attacking us. Our body reacts in a way that will really ensure our survival. And my reaction to this... animal is in the end to benefit my own survival.
Yeah, that's fascinating to me. International connection is, it's a great coming together of humanity from disparate cultures and communities. And this technology that we find ourselves surrounded with allows this to happen. And really, it just allows for a deeper human connection.
Yeah, that's fascinating to me. International connection is, it's a great coming together of humanity from disparate cultures and communities. And this technology that we find ourselves surrounded with allows this to happen. And really, it just allows for a deeper human connection.
They're encouraging this use of artificial colors as those people that wrote those letters to General Mills did.
Yeah, I actually feel wasteful when I throw away half my marshmallows. It's good to know that you would have saved them for me. Can you save them for me? You know what? You can buy your own marshmallows. It's ridiculous to suggest that I would save them and transport them to you. You want some Froot Loops? Yeah. Let me try the Froot Loops. Take a look.
I'm not completely convinced that we have a show. I feel like when most people get a show, there's some kind of feeling of accomplishment. Will I be financially compensated for this? We'll talk about that.
Take a look at the British Froot Loops and understand that they taste the same.
That was- I found them in your office. Yeah, in 2008. Okay, so what happened? Shot in 2007, by the way, aired in early 2008. Okay, I'm a good driver.
It really is the same. The only difference being that some men kill people and some men eat cereal. You say tomato, I say tomato.
You can eat your soy protein, impervious to any criticism, while I'll consume high-quality whey protein, and once every three years, I'll have some lucky charms.
Well, the mere fact that people approach and oftentimes want a photo or a selfie already tells me that they're appreciative of the work that I guess you and I do together, the artistic work, our contribution.
Yes, they are.
I can't recall any questions about you in particular. Oh, really?
I get questions about myself, but that's my own experience. You might get questions about you and not me.
Generally, it comes from Conan. No one else asked me what I do. It's a fascination of yours.
Yeah. Nevertheless, I believe that artistic contribution should be compensated.
I'm talking about in when I'm finally engaged by Sirius and given a contract, I expect to be referred to as the artist in parentheses. That's generally how these things work. Are you an artist?
I think my artistic services should be adequately compensated.
You don't like dogs? I'm not responsible for the U.S. financial system and the business model that exists where if you work, you get paid for that work. I didn't invent that, but nevertheless, that's where we are. Your eyes are crazy again. I'm just going through life in this society like everyone else.
These are my human expressions. I did not craft this. I didn't ask for this body. I was given this musculature.
I was given this facial structure, and that's the way my facial structure reacts to any number of stimuli. But you could work on it.
No, I have not worked on trying to have a regular smile.
So what's your specific complaint right now? What's your grievance? That my smile is aesthetically displeasing?
That will make you more comfortable for me to have a different smile. I guess I could consider it.
Oh, yes. Well, you know, this is a complex question.
Well, primarily I like to lift heavy objects. I believe in resistance training, also known as strength training. I stress my muscles beyond their capacity to prompt them to grow larger and stronger.
I don't know if everybody knows you take that for granted because you have high power trainers. The point is, if you don't stress your muscle, you have to work out to failure. OK, you have to work out until you can't lift another rep. Buddy, you're there.
Well... Be honest.
First of all, we need to be relative. We need to be relative to your age. OK, I'm not going to assess you as if you were a 20 year old. Do you look as good as a 20 year old? No, of course not. You wouldn't expect to. So there's that. So you've got, you know, age and, you know, there are certain things. Look, you're a nice guy. I mean, what I'm saying is what I'm saying.
Look, look, they're not. Wait a minute. I'm a nice guy. Physically speaking, you have strengths. OK, what's your posture? And for a taller guy, you know what? Most people, when they hit puberty, people that are tall, they kind of developed a hunch stance because they're trying to, like, diminutize themselves because they feel a little.
No, for a tall man, you're quite you are quite erect. You you stand with good posture.
Well, I know that you work out because I know you and we it's come up in discussion. Yeah, sure. No, but when you look at me, when I look at you, be honest. Come on. You can tell I'm in pretty good shape. Who knows what you would look like if you didn't work out? So by that reckoning, I'm guessing that working out has certain benefits to your... You're talking about visually?
You want to know how you visually look? Yeah.
Well, look, a man is a complex sum of his parts and then some. I don't just dissect your physical appearance and separate it out from everything else. When you walk into a room, I say there's a man and he's got some strengths.
Well, I don't know what kind of feedback you're looking for. Do you want thin? Well, sure. I mean, you're not obese. So, you know, I mean... I've seen you different weights over the years. That's okay.
I mean, look, this is not late 2004, early 2005.
That's when I looked great? No, you had a good few years, even through 2007. Few years, few years.
At your peak. Is this the lowest you've ever been?
OK. Yeah. You're not. I mean, 60. Is that like a senior citizen? But by the strictest definition, I don't know when. When do you not have to take your shoes off at the airport? Sixty two. No, I'm just saying, like, I don't understand what's considered elderly, but you do not look elderly. Thank you. If people think 60 is elderly... And I'm pretty spry.
No, you do have muscles.
I could totally rip you apart. Yeah, even at your worst in 2000, you know, one, two...
So when you say you had a bad year, like nutritionally speaking, what are we talking? Late night binges? Like what were you doing to gain that?
I'm just saying, how does it happen?
What I'm saying was it just that every meal was slightly bigger? Were you just eating late at night before being at rest? Yeah.
Okay.
Was it pork? size that got you?
I'm answering the question that was asked of me. You look better than you did back in the early 2000s. OK, thanks a lot.
By the way, I've deteriorated as well. I mean, I mean, I'm not talking about mentally.
Yes, I've deteriorated as well. I would expect you to deteriorate.
We see the world through a subjective lens. You understand we consider a number of possibilities. You don't exist in a vacuum. Your physical appearance doesn't exist in a vacuum. When I look at you, I think of your life circumstance. I think of your aura. I think of so many things that are far more important than your physical shell. Physically, sure, you're deteriorating. As as as we all are.
And it will only get worse and not even in a linear scale. It will be exponential.
The difference between 60 and 70 will be far more dramatic than the difference between 50.
What I'm saying, there'll be times when you look back on this video, for example, and you say, God, I was an Adonis back then. Look at me now. I'm saying this is from this point forward, as good as it's going to get for you. Now, sure, you can make certain improvements to your lifestyle, nutritionally speaking.
You know what I'm saying? This is the beauty of the human experience. There's a rise and a fall. this is the period where, uh, look, I didn't make these rules of nature, but they, they exist. Your body is useless to human evolution. At this point, you, you, we know that you have value to us, but, uh, mother nature doesn't know this. Your, your genetic programming doesn't know this.
You are as, as you know, potentially everyone in this room, a couple of very good looking men in here. Uh, you are deteriorating. You are, um, you are in the decline, the decrescendo, um, the plummet. Yeah.
Yeah, my pleasure. You see, I'm being prompted to be critical and then I will be criticized for being critical. What's worth mentioning is when people do decline, sometimes they decline in different ways. OK, we have different deficiencies. For whatever reason, your own particular deficiency was. somewhat unique among the people that I know. Sometimes I see people get bellies.
I see people, you know, have lose muscle mass. You had a very specific deficiency. Your face and your body itself stretched horizontally. You widened your face, widened. I don't understand the mechanics of it.
I'm not aware of any alternatives to chocolate that have that brown appearance.
Okay, so now, in case there was like an injection of human growth hormone to widen the bone structure of your jaw, I don't understand the mechanics of it. Look at my face now.
That's the mini Moog. You see that growl? It's a growl.
Bob Moog. Yeah. Dutch name, of course, Mulch. Just like a stroopwafel. You are familiar with the Dutch treat stroopwafel, the O-O, stroop meaning syrup. No, I didn't know that. Wafel meaning waffles. Yeah, wafel is, of course, waffles.
It does. What type of protein is in that bar? A low quality protein like pea or soy or is it like a high quality whey only protein bar? I don't want to get into it. That's not what we're here to talk about. And what's the balance of protein to carbohydrates? Do you just shove something in your mouth because maybe your trainer recommended it or did they have it at your gym? I don't understand.
You hear the growl of that Moog synthesizer, indicative of early 80s synthesizers. No, it's actually Moog. It's a Dutch name. It's actually pronounced Moog, if you really want to be accurate. All right.
Is this your art right now? What I'm saying is bullying someone. This is a slow burn. Why don't you go to go for like rapid fire laughs? We're here. People are driving to work. This is slow and steady.
Genetically modified?
Why don't you try like a Rise branded bar, which is just like 100% whey protein.
Well, there are, like any human being, I'm not impervious to marketing efforts by various large corporations that produce processed food products. I have cravings like anyone else.
I'm saying I have certain cravings. Candy is not a particular craving of mine. I would never eat a bar such as the one you're eating that's covered in a chocolate-like substance that smells like chocolate, looks like chocolate, but according to you, may not be chocolate. I don't have cravings for candy. You know, I'll have like a tiramisu. I'll have some ice cream.
I know a lot of people equate synthesizers with the late 80s sound, that is to say, bright and blaring. I'm talking specifically about 86, 87, and 88, the most horrible, arguably, year. But when you talk about early 80s, there's more of a buzzy synthesizer sound.
Well, it's interesting that you bring that up. I would say once every three to four years, I'll get a craving for some commercial breakfast cereal, okay?
Tell me what these are. First of all, I do not believe that any breakfast... Every breakfast cereal is healthy, okay? Even if they're marketed as such, even if they don't have added sugar. I believe the whole concept of extruding wheat or other grains is indigestible to the body, makes the body work hard.
Even a supposedly healthy cereal like Cheerios, which is marketed as having whole grains, I don't think is healthy for the human body. That's my own belief. I'm sorry if I get the show in trouble for saying so. Not at all.
If I'm going to fall off the wagon, understanding that I don't believe any of them are healthy, I'm going to go for the maximum impact, satiate my craving so that craving goes away and life storm it for another 30 years. three to four years.
OK, so, well, I made some new discoveries recently, but historically, I would say my holy grail, my guilty pleasure would have been like Froot Loops. Now, regarding Froot Loops, you have an American version of Froot Loops and you have a British version of Froot Loops.
Who says Toucan Sam isn't a lady. Sam is a gender neutral name. Very good. I like the way you've evolved. Go ahead. There are certain regulations in the European Union that prohibit the use of artificial colors, for example. So the Froot Loops in the UK have different colors. They're colored by natural products, turmeric, spinach, things like this.
And sure, the colors are a little more muted than the artificially colored product we get here in the United States, but that's a small price to pay. And furthermore, I found that the Froot Loops in the United States have a hydrogenated oil and the British ones do not. I've never had the pleasure of consuming the British ones.
Why are you shouting?
This is my normal tonality. I don't think so. And by the way, we have a man, Eduardo, who can adjust the input level to compensate.
Okay, I would like to try the British Fruit Loops. Nevertheless, Fruit Loops was always my holy grail. And I'll tell you something, not about Fruit Loops, but about Trix, which is a General Mills cereal, okay? So they also have artificial colors here. And a number of years ago, General Mills took the admirable stance and they said, we are going to phase out artificial colors in our cereal.
And I said, finally, our country is moving forward. They listen to the consumer. The consumer votes with their dollar. Consumer trends show people want healthier. McDonald's offers salads now. So now finally, they're getting rid of artificial colors. And they did. And of course, the colors were now natural. They were a little more muted and the cereal tasted exactly the same.
And suddenly there was an angry letter writing campaign by Americans complaining about this change. People saying this is not the cereal I grew up with. I do not want my children having these disgusting colors. And I'm thinking to myself, you're blowing it. You're blowing it. We're finally moving forward as a nation. And you're you're you're saying the exact opposite of what you should say.
People were so disappointed that Cheryl wasn't as bright as it used to be, tasting exactly the same. And you know what General Mills did? They said, sorry, we made a mistake. And they put the artificial colors back in. And that's regression. And I'm incredibly ashamed of this country's reaction to the naturally colored tricks.
OK, but recently I had one of my cravings that I wanted to satisfy and I was in the supermarket. So I went to the cereal aisle and I said, let me just take care of this, nip this in the bud and then it will disappear and I can eat normal, unprocessed foods for another three years. So I filled my basket with my Holy Grail Fruit Loops, and then I mixed it up a little bit.
I also did Golden Grams, which was also one that I have liked historically. And I went with a Lucky Charms, which is like a wild card, guilty pleasure, another one of those super sugary cereals. And then I went with Quaker Cereal Life. Life is not quite as sweet as some of the other ones.
the company just say life okay life cereal now i did some experimenting and i had some revelations about these cereals now as a grown man uh you know i change as i go through life and my reaction every few years is different than the previous occasion so i determined that while life i still enjoy the taste and it's lower sugar than the others um there was some digestive instability what did you get the runs
Sometimes you feel stable in the gastrointestinal tract and sometimes you don't.
There was no violent reaction. I'm aware of the subtleties of my body. You see, I look deep beneath the surface.
If that's your face. I don't need a violent explosion to tell me something is wrong. I know I can detect subtleties in my body and my own digestion. Well, how subtle was it? You may not have even noticed it, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm not sitting, I'm not hanging out by your toilet.
I said there were digestive instabilities. Digestive instability usually means one thing. For you it does, because you're a man of extremes, okay? So you hear this and you imagine... You imagine a man on a toilet bowl, you know, beat red face, sweat flying off his body.
What I'm telling you is, do you need to know this particulars? Isn't the fact that there's digestive instability already a red flag to stay away from life cereal? Again, no, no offense to the Quaker Road Company. This was only my company.
What I'm saying is I prize my gastrointestinal stability. I like to have certain conditions. I like to feel empty, light, okay? Light on my feet. I don't want to be bloated.
There's a pressure. It's a subtle pressure. OK, you feel a pressure in your bowel. Yeah, sometimes. And it's very subtle. OK, it's not that subtle. So the problem is when you have when you have this pressure, it desensitizes the bowel to what normal pressure should feel like. Anyway, regardless, let's move on from that. So I eliminated.
In my case, there was some digestive instability.
An unstable, subtle pressure. OK, so I rejected life cereal from the running, although I did enjoy the taste. And there are some people that may be completely stable. I can't speak for your own experience. OK, so I put life aside. Now, Fruit Loops was not as great as I remembered it. In the end, I found it monotonous. The Fruit Loops, it was a one one tone.
And what really surprised me was fruit was Lucky Charms. Let me talk a little bit about luck.
Here's my take on Lucky Charms. OK, first of all, I remove half the marshmallows. I found that there are too many marshmallows as a stock. No, no, no. There's too many. No good thing.
Now, they are made with General Mills, and I recognize... Stop mentioning the names of the companies! I recognized that the flavor of the non-marshmallow part was very familiar to me. And then I realized they're Cheerios. They're Honey Nut Cheerios. They are sweetened Cheerios plus marshmallows. Same company, same ingredients of the non-marshmallow portion. You know what I'm saying?
You just blew the lid off this thing. Because I did. And if you remove half of the marshmallows and you eat Lucky Charms, you're eating Cheerios, sweetened Cheerios, plus some extra bonus marshmallows. Let me see this. Here we go. Lucky charms. All right. Here's lucky charms. Take out half the marshmallows.
You frame yourself as a sophisticate, an academic, you know, an intellect, and you're a fool. I mean, this is like, this is like toddler humor, you know? All your training has led you to this. So you are revered in the world of comedy, the elder statesman of late-night television, Harvard-educated, many decades.
Okay, I'll tell you. The Lampoon, the Harvard Lampoon, respected publication editor-in-chief of some sort. Yeah, for a freshman, I think first freshman in the history. It's okay. It's called president. Anyway, let's get off to Harvard. All right, nevertheless, I'm sorry you have a sore spot about that. No, I'm not going to talk about it.
about where you, I don't know what persecution you face as a Harvard graduate. No, I don't know what the sensitivity is about. I don't know what the sensitivity is. I don't know if something happened to you at Harvard that you don't want to discuss. I won't bring it up again. No, no, no. Okay. So anyway, you're revered. Comedians look up to you.
um and a sound crew and no i don't think we've been in intimate situations always we you and i are friends we've uh hung out not no i am we are you and i have socialized with no cameras present when a multiple times there have been numerous occasions where you and i have socialized name one i'm not here to enumerate things that should be self-evident to a man that was there for these experiences
You, uh, your sophistication in the comedic world, you're a combination of the silly and the high end. Um, and all of that, background and an incredible resume brought you to a little classic Fiat Cinquecento with me playing the sounds of a of a human gas release. Yeah.
Yeah. It's called a fart. Yeah. Yeah. It was very funny. You couldn't call it that.
It was very special to me. Yeah.
You know, I've been to Argentina now three times. And the first two times I went, I did kind of road trips through Patagonia. And Argentina is a wonderful country, wonderful people, wonderful culture, wonderful food. You know, there are some places that you go to and you say, I had a wonderful experience here and this will carry me through the rest of my life. And this was great.
And I really treasure it. But I don't necessarily think I'll ever have the opportunity or need to come back.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Well, I know that regarding the culture of the Argentines, I'm certainly no expert. However, I will tell you that I know that the passion and intensity of tango flows through the blood of the Argentine people. It's on every street corner that we encounter. Tango. Tango. Tango. It's pronounced tango. Tango. Last tango in Paris. Last tango in Paris. Or more accurately, last tango in Paris.
Well, I have a respect for the culture and I try to honor the people and the way they speak. And if that infuriates you, that sounds like a problem that you need to work out. Okay, another time you got angry.
Oh, yes.
Macchio.
You got very. Well, it's true. I made a mistake. If you'd like to believe I was angry, if that increases your enjoyment of the situation.
You could believe I'm angry if you want to believe I was angry.
It got like, look at the footage, people. My fascination with Japanese culture began with the Karate Kid Part 2. Now that movie was shot and took place in Okinawa, which is the southern part of Japan. And, well, Daniel was staying in a ryokan, which is a... Daniel?
You and I are friends, like it or not. It doesn't work that way.
Oh, yeah, Daniel-san, played by Ralph Macchio, which is actually, the Italian way pronounced Macchio, but I believe he pronounces it Macchio, and I'll respect his decision.
No, no, I'm in shock.
This is not hopeful, by the way. I'd be OK if we weren't friends. Nevertheless, we are friends.
I am shocked that you had our talent booker reach out to his publicist. You have the connections.
Yeah, yes, you can.
I do not know where Ralph Macchio shot The Karate Kid 2. It's Macchio! Because I'm a fool. It's Macchio! I am a fool for not knowing where that movie was shot. It's Macchio, and I can get to him if I wanted to. It's Macchio. Do you understand? Oh, yeah. I can get to Macchio. Listen to you.
You got mad. OK, well, guess what? You got mad when I took you to a very special experience in Italy. OK, here's a real story for the people out there that they may not have heard before. This is real life listening audience. OK, I we were in Florence and I want to do something special for you. You know why? Because I have an intimate knowledge of that city.
And I said, I can provide you an experience that you can't get as a tourist.
No, no, no. This is this is what I this is the way I enhanced your life without you even being aware of it. OK, so I know that, yes, you can have a wonderful dinner in the city of Florence, but I knew a very special, magical place outside of the city in the town of Fiesole. OK, this is shortly after. I remember this. Yeah. And then I start, you know, I'm in the van enjoying our company.
We're talking, we're having a real experience here. The night was full of opportunity. You know, this is a wonderful experience from virtually a local to a tourist like yourself. And I start getting questions about the amount of time that we were in the van.
Okay, so people start looking at their watches and say, this is taking a while. And I don't know what the rush was. I mean, we were done shooting for the day and we were off to a magical...
And I could vouch for that. OK, I'll I'll accept the fact that I lied. I'll accept the fact. Let's say it was longer than eight minutes. You became infuriated by the amount of time it was. Yeah, I think I got there.
The GN makes like a sound like gnocchi.
Who's they? I pronounce it Lou Ferrigno. How do you say Hulk? Hulk? No. Hulk. Hulk? Hulk is an English word. It's actually called Hulk.
No, he's not Danish.
Bill Bixby, that guy could make me cry. I mean, that guy, the pain, the lonely man theme composed by Joe Harnell when he would walk off in the distance, Bill Bixby, at the end of every episode. Tell me that doesn't bring tears to your eyes.
Even like a guy like you that's always looking for the joke in this situation.
He can't find companionship because he's cursed by this disease. He was exposed to gamma rays. He's cursed. He walks. He looks. He only wants companionship. He only wants to be a free man. Does this sound like you? Does this sound like you? Does this sound like you? Tell me Bill Bixby. And he was like a tortured soul in real life.
Bill Bixby that you could see when you talk about an actor and their ability to emote people think because he was on like a fantasy TV series, they kind of discount him. I mean, the guy was like a genius actor. How do you know he was tortured? You know, there are stories about his life. He had struggles.
Nevertheless, that guy was able to communicate these touching sentiments that are unheard of in a superhero genre.
Yeah, remember the bicycles on the wall? This place had bicycles on the wall.
That was a normal exchange, right?
I know how humans are expected to interact. Do you understand? I've witnessed this. Do you understand? I spend large amounts of time. I'm sure you did.
I know how to play this game. Do you understand? I know, I know the rules. I know how to bend the rules. Yes. I know. It suspects a thing. That's right. I know how you all interact and I'm happy to play in your world. Okay. Well, just an admission here.
No, I'm not. But are any of us really like us? Yeah. The rest of us in this room are like us. There's no us. No, no, no, they're not. People have their inner secrets, their inner deviations.
You know, I have another very special road trip that I take and, uh, I would love to share with, uh, you again in a very intimate setting. Um, I would, I found this great combination. I would fly to Paris and I'd spent a couple of days in Paris. You have your steak frites, you have your, uh, you know, your wonderful wines. You can, um, You can explore the city.
And then I would rent a car and drive through the French countryside. I'm talking about the Loire Valley, where you stay in castles. Now, these things are actual medieval castles that are now converted into lodging and hotels. They're not like Las Vegas made to look medieval. And you'll stay in the turd of a castle. It's an incredibly romantic and ornate in these large green fields.
This is how you connect with humans. No, no, no. This is how you connect with humans.
Do you have a romantic interest? Of course I do. High romance. You ever hear of the romantics? You ever hear of the new romantics in music? The fact that you link romance with sex to me is very telling. It's very two-dimensional. Things are not always so cut and dry. I believe you and I have a very romantic relationship.
She would laugh.
That's not my business. The point is... The point is... Absolutely, we have a romantic relationship. You like to pretend these things away. You find yourself in this situation. I know you didn't plan it this way. I do not have romantic moments with you. I know you didn't plan it this way. Whether or not you acknowledge it doesn't discount the fact that it exists. Okay?
We drive through the Loire Valley. We drive through Burgundy and we have local Burgundy wines. And then we drive into Switzerland through the Alps and we eat raclette and fondue. What's raclette? Raclette is a type of cheese that melts over a fire and you eat it. How do you get it out of the fire? Please, you're in the Swiss Alps. You're sitting in front of a fireplace.
High romance, high romance, driving through the mountains. And then you drive into northern Italy across the Dolomites. And maybe you end up in a town like Venice and you may think, oh, we've done Italy. Well, we did Tuscany and Lazio and you mean yeah, Venetia. And it's kind of kind of got a flavor. It's all all of its own. And I've done this trip multiple times off and alone.
2008?
Yeah. Do a restaurant? Do discount 2008? I don't remember any of this. Whether you remember it or not, it happened.
I would love to share that experience with you. Why are you always alone? Think of us galloping through the Alps. Galloping? Yeah, galloping through the Alps. Not on a horse, but on some kind of motorized vehicle, perhaps.
I'm sorry, I misspoke. But just picture us just running. Remember the sound of music?
Yeah, but can you envision the sentiment I'm talking about? Like picture the sound of music, which was shot, of course, in Germany. But picture that in the Swiss Alps, you and I just running through the snowy mountains.
I don't.
No, we're we're gallivanting.
No, we're gallivanting in the Alps. And then at night we're curled up in front of a fire. What are you talking about? We're wearing a blanket. You and I are not curled up together. Maybe gestad. You ever been to gestad?
So what I'm saying is.
We have risotto and polenta in northern Italy. We stay in the mountains there. Listen to me.
I'm proposing. I'm making a proposition.
You said you wanted to curl up with him in front of a fire. I would like to curl up with you in front of a fire. We're not intertwined. I'm not against it.
Let me envision this. Let me envision this, okay? Yeah, paint a picture. All right, so there's a fire. Where am I? There's a fire. There's a fireplace. We're on the floor. There's a rug. There's some melted cheese on the log. Yeah. There is. There's an oval rug. Why is it oval? Because it'll fit both of us. It's an oval rug.
Yeah. Do a Upper East Side. You lived on the Upper West Side. But did we did we have tickets to this Shakespeare in the Park? We came. This was serendipitous to understand some of the greatest organic moments in life are unplanned. We didn't know we'd have a magical night that night. Nevertheless, we did. You know, we remembered it. Yeah. We started out with a wonderful dinner, of course.
Yeah, we're going to be down on the floor and you're on the left side of the oval rug and I'm on the right side of the oval rug. I want the right. I want the right. Okay, fine. We're wearing flannel pajamas and we've got a fondue pot and we're roasting our bread. What are we drinking? Maybe apples. Oh, I'm glad you asked. You know, Switzerland has some great wines. They're very expensive.
In fact, many Swiss will buy like Italian wines because
You're like concentrating on the wrong things. Our bodily positions are not necessarily important. What's important here?
Like spooning. Well, not necessarily. Possibly.
I don't care. These are you're dwelling on the wrong things.
If our bodies should touch, I don't even necessarily notice it. It could happen accidentally. That's not my goal, nor am I trying to avoid it. The point is, here we sit in Los Angeles in an urban environment. Now picture this is the wonder of travel. Picture us now in the Swiss Alps curled up in front of a fire together.
That just seems so distant, almost like you're trying to avoid me.
That's all. Yes. Well, I have specific castles that I have stayed in and I would love to spend time in with you. And just picture large fields in France running through the fields. Why are we running?
What I'm saying is when you see a large expanse of green grass, okay? Mm-hmm. France is like a green country, isn't that doesn't seem like a green country to you. Like, do you see colors when you like if I say like the number, like if I say 1983, do you see yellow? Nope. No. If I say the 1990s, do you see red? How long have you been experiencing these headaches?
What I'm saying is you don't associate color with different words or places? No, I don't.
1985, red. 1986, blue. 1987, green. 1988, yellow again. 1989, red again. You don't see that? I'm pulling the rip cord. Okay.
No, no, this is not a joke. This is a real thing. I see colors. There's no way. Frank, get this analyzed. When I see certain words or places, okay, France is a green country. I picture large green fields and you and I just running through the fields. MRI. You need to have an MRI.
As opposed to computerized axial tomography, a CAT scan. Do you know laser stands for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation? Do you know that scuba stands for self-contained underwater breathing apparatus?
Yeah, of course I remember what I had. I had the Polo Scarpa Yellow. Jesus! Yeah, and I had the Tortino for dessert. Do you remember what I had? I had, by the way, a Brancaia Tre to drink. Well, that usually goes away with a little... No, no, no. I don't know what you had. That was your responsibility. But after that, we walked.
Look for the piano version by Joe. Oh, yes. Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's consuming me.
David Banner in the TV series, Bruce Banner in the comics. Changed on purpose by the series creator.
Thank you.
You came up with... You're a man that loves to walk, and that's a great quality. I love walking. Although you have access to many transportation options, you like to walk. I do. We've walked in many places.
No, we came across. It was some kind of Shakespeare production backstage. And you and I stood there and we watched it. We stood there and we had a moment, a magical, magical moment. And then we photographed your apartment. You did this great thing where it was late at night. Oh, that's right. I remember you doing this.
What I'm saying is you got paid. We don't know when magical experiences will happen to us. We try to plan these things. We say, oh, I'm going to have a special occasion night. And you plan and then things inevitably go wrong. And then magic happens when you least expect it. That night was magic. One of many magical nights and days that you and I have had all across the planet.
It was longer than two weeks ago. Was it three weeks ago? It was longer than three weeks ago. It was a very nice young lady from Toronto. I love Canadians. I spent a lot of time in Ontario specifically, also British Columbia.
Where are you getting these incorrect facts from? No, there was no Canadian girlfriend.
Yes.
In what sense do you ask that question?
Yes.
I was asked to do an interview. Was it cleared?
People that needed to know knew.
You and I don't have a line of dialogue for these matters. The people that needed to know knew. OK, I'm going to let it go. It was discussed. Yeah, it was. It was approved in all. I'm going to.
I'm sure you want people to speak freely under your employ. You have nothing to hide. No, I don't. Yes. I have thoughts about the series as you do.
I have original thoughts.
My point is, I have deep thoughts, okay?
Yes. Nevertheless, the thoughts are there, and sometimes people want me to express them. I express the thoughts, and no harm done.
I think in the early remotes, I was still approaching this aware of the fact that Conan was clearly my boss. And I was kind of I felt an obligation to be subservient and play the role of the employee. But I guess
Gradually over the years, I've been able to put that aside while we're on camera and act just like I would be naturally inclined to act should someone approach me in the manner that he does. So in that sense, I think it's probably more truer to our actual relationship as opposed to like employer-employee. Wow.
I would hope that any relationship between human creatures or even animal creatures undergoes undergoes change over time.
Yeah. So you I mean, if such statements make you feel more powerful, I'm not going to challenge them. They do. Yes.
If you needed that reinforcement, you've got it.
Yeah. This is good. I thought you did a good job.
Well, the reality of the situation is, despite how it may or may not appear, speaking for myself, I love traveling with Conan. I love spending time with him. I love spending time with him in foreign environments. I do truly think that when
you travel your experience any kind of new event with someone you know it does bring you closer together you not only experience things firsthand but reflected in somebody else's eyes as well i genuinely have so many warm memories of traveling to argentina and other places with him we would have wonderful dinners and we would talk about you know the food that we're eating and and the local nature of that food and
the culture around us. And it may surprise people to know that we really get along. And I would like to think he enjoys my company as much as I enjoy his. Oh, wow.
I don't have the resources that you have. Do you understand this? I'm a man among men. Yes, a human man. I've got media trained in this regard. I do the best I can.
I think it's a testament to our closeness that we can be at each other's throats and still endure.
That's wonderful.
Yeah, of course I remember going to Italy. Do you understand? That was a pivotal moment in my life. But I'll tell you something about that trip. That trip was a part of my life even before you and I went. That was a trip that I had done many times before, and that made it extra personal for me because I was able to share with a beloved companion these moments that have been so special to me.
Well, I think with any intimate relationship, there are going to be ups and downs. We've never been intimate. I believe we're intimate right now.
Beloved companion? Yeah, you're a beloved companion. The point is I travel alone typically, and as much as I like- You travel alone? Yeah, I often travel alone as much as I like the freedom that comes with traveling alone in the moments of introspection, sitting in a piazza at 2 a.m. and just watching people go by and pondering the universe. You creep.
The point is, sometimes you want to share these experiences with somebody. And I was happy to have the opportunity to share this exact experience with you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Firenze.
Yeah, Firenze. Firenze. Yeah. Say it again. One more time. Firenze.
Yeah. It's one of those, you know, some countries go by the same name in English as they do in a native country. That's one that has changed quite a bit, hasn't it? Florence is Firenze. Rome, of course, Roma. Do you have any others you'd like to... Venice, Venezia.
Yeah, Pisa is actually the same. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to ruin your theory.
Yeah, Napoli. Very good. Yeah, that's impressive.
So basically... Kind of a sending piece of shit. Yeah, when you ask... I'll tell you some of my favorite moments. Okay, when you ask, I've connected with these places on a spiritual level, okay, but often alone. And I'd come back and I would talk to you about my trip and you at least pretended to be interested at the time when we come back from hiatus. Yeah, exactly.
And then to be there with you at La Logetta or some of these Sorbillo Pizzeria, some of these exact places where I've spent so many years was quite moving for me.
Maybe it is. Yeah. We've certainly been intimate. You cannot deny that you and I have been in intimate situations.
Oh, yes. Celli di Toscana. Yeah, specifically Andrea Bocelli's Celli di Toscana. And let me tell you something.
There are many sides to me. And I think he would appreciate some of that. First of all, I don't care if he would appreciate them because I have no interest in bonding with him. Nevertheless. That's so rude.
My birthday passed two months ago. I was being polite. Now listen to me.
What fool in this room told Geddy Lee that my birthday was right now and I have to play along like a jackass because I'm not going to be the asshole that tells him, no, you're wrong. That's going nowhere. Well, you did tell him. You did tell him it passed. Well, I was polite. You told him it passed. That's the best I can do. I'm not going to flat out.
So what?
He came within a sixth.
What I'm saying is the man likes wine. OK, he has a preference for French wine. My I have a preference for Italian wine. Nevertheless, there are things that we could connect on. Should either of us want to? I don't want to. I don't want to. No, stop saying that. No offense to them. And I enjoy listening to his music and I enjoy listening to him speak.
But I don't make any pretense that him and I would ever go hang out. Nor would I. I'm an introvert. I fear human interaction. I avoid it.
Yeah, I have one human being here and some nice gentleman over here, but I'm not talking to large quantities of people.
Some say the language of music is older than the word language itself. Music is a great unifier, much like food. OK, when we all disagree on so many things, we all appreciate music. I go one step further. I like to have the best version of music to listen to. I like my music to sound as good as possible. Back in the 70s, when you were growing up, you might have called me a hi-fi guy.
OK, first of all, of course, I would be polite. Secondly, if I walk by, wouldn't you be honored if I walked by and he didn't recognize me and he was sitting there? I would absolutely not approach him either before or after this experience. OK, I would give the man his space. I have no interest. It doesn't do anything. I'd rather go home, put my headphones on at 3 a.m.
and listen to my favorite pressing of moving pictures and get lost in it than sit down at a cafe with a man that clearly wanted to be alone.
You know, I find that... Well, you and I are different. Maybe you're somehow consumed by the idea of fame. Nope. And also fame doesn't interest me at all. And also, as you'll know, a lot of artists, he's actually a very friendly, gregarious man with great social skills.
But there are many artists are kind of at the other end of the spectrum and are more introverted like myself and don't necessarily want to connect with people. Of course, they do it out of obligation to their fan base. But yeah, so I don't need to impose myself.
Fumpfering, you wanted fumpfering. That to you shows that, wow, I've done well. You've got the fumpfering from me. I'm saying I saw him. I acknowledged him. I understood. You acknowledged him. I understood the situation.
I didn't expect him to know. I wouldn't expect that's not his job. He passes that off to other people. I don't have access to those other people. You put you put him up on a screen. So he's the man I made my case to. If you put the head of their catalog up on screen, I would have made a better case to them.
Yeah, I do it regularly as part of my career.
Yeah, I do. I'm a huge fan of the show. I was happy to work on it for so long because I was a fan of it. But I'm going to say very clearly, I have no interest in famous people simply because they're famous.
That thought does occur to me based on situations that happen around me. But I don't reject you or accept you simply because you're famous. I don't seek out famous people. I don't feel any more exhilaration talking to a famous person than a non-famous person. Liar! Now, there are some famous people that I am infatuated with that I've never met.
OK, Neil Diamond, Tristan Rogers from General Hospital in the 1980s. Jesus, what a list.
I can count on one hand the amount of famous people I was very interested to meet. John Williams, I've met him a number of times. Of course, the famous composer. He was a big one for me. Neil Diamond, I never had the chance to meet. John Ritter, I did meet. Wonderful guy. He was wonderful.
Oh, I got Tristan Rogers here. Tristan Rogers, Australian. He's Australian. Yes, he certainly has a beautiful voice. I don't know how old he is. 78. OK, that sounds about right. He I modeled my personality after him. I watched General Hospital religiously in the 1980s. It was him. It was John Reilly who played Sean Donnelly, who I met at the Grove once. The late, great John Reilly. Hold it.
Hold it.
You certainly extrapolated a bit. Okay. I gave you, I think you embellished the core of what I was saying. I just repeated what you said. The man spoke like music. You listen to the words that come out of his mouth and his Australian accent, and he speaks like music. He could play it all. He could play the mystery. He could play the drama, love, anger.
That episode with him and Burt in December 1986, Burt Ramsey, his former police commissioner that betrayed him and became head of the mob, when he yelled at him at the end of that episode, that was like stunning. That changed me.
There was a time I sought out those old episodes at General Hospital. I tried to get the footage. It was unavailable everywhere. They would put out little retrospectives on VHS. I'm like, Luke and Laura's wedding. No one gives a shit about that. We've all seen it 50 times. I want to see the Aztec treasure. I want to see the Aztec treasure. Asian corner from 1985.
We talk. That is our that is our venture here. We are here to talk different about this. You interrupt my talking, but that's the whole point. What's different about this pressing? OK, there are many back in the day before things were standardized.
And you know what I'm saying? Two months.
I know he doesn't know what the fuck. I'd rather meet Tristan Rogers than getting laid. God damn it. There I said it. I said it. Get Tristan Rodgers. Who's Tristan Rodgers? Get Tristan Rodgers. All right, we're going to get Tristan Rodgers. I want Tristan Rodgers.
That's what you're going to do. First of all, let's pretend that as human beings, we're not influenced by the media figures we're exposed to every day. Like Tony Hopkins said in the Silence of the Lambs, we covet what we see every day around us. OK, I saw him every day shouting. I found him compelling. He had charisma. The charisma that I have, I learned from him.
This man is cool as ice. OK, I don't equate somebody's talent by their level of fame, their level of objective fame. OK, he may not be the most famous person in this town, but to me, he's the most compelling. Can I ask you something?
Ah, yes, the ideal, the ignorant ideal. Let me explain to you how human psychology works, okay? Let me explain to you nature and nurture. We are a product of what we are exposed to every day. Now, you can look at this as a negative or you can look at this as empowering. We can choose what we surround ourselves with every day. These things will become part of our personality. You...
Yes. This is a spoken word program. Is that correct? Yeah. OK, so I am speaking words. All right. That is what I was told the assignment was. All right. I'm here to complete the assignment. All right. Today, we're going to spend, I don't know, a half hour talking about the difference. Guess what?
are comprised in part of me because you have been exposed to me. I have rubbed off on you in ways you may or may not be aware of. We are a product of our environment. As strong as we think we are mentally, I'm true to myself. Your self is based on your environment. Every single human being that's around you, every single object becomes part of you. I am a part of you and I will always be.
Yeah, you're inside me.
These have a very low gain, by the way. You need a very powerful mixer to extrapolate the proper sound. You can use a cloud lifter, though. which a lot of amateur podcasters do. And now they have a new model that has a built-in preamp. They're a little bit longer, they're shiny, and they say short down the side. What I'm saying is the fact that I'm shouting doesn't preclude me from being content.
I am a content man.
Yeah, I apparently am a radio host on Sirius XM.
For anyone wondering what it's like to be a radio host, I'll tell you what it's like. There's no change to my life. There are no perks. I'm not even convinced we have a radio show. I've seen clips of it on YouTube. I don't have there's no mug in front of me with the Conan O'Brien show logo that has two meatballs that look like the orange chicken at Panda Express.
I don't feel you tell me we have a radio show and you think I'd feel some level of accomplishment to be a radio host. A goal that I never set for myself, but somehow found me. And I just have a normal life. I don't get free things. I don't get special privileges at restaurants. Just for anyone wondering, maybe you aspire to be a radio hosting. You think your life will change.
I'm here to tell you there is zero change.
I'm content. I'm passionate. I appreciate the things you've done to me. I'm self-aware. To you?
Done to me, for me, with me.
Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate them. I'm passionate about them. Look, people say apathy is the worst insult. If I shout and I'm passionate, don't worry so much about am I angry? Am I happy? Just just be happy that you're evoking a response. And sure, Mussolini shouted and he was just trying to get his point across.
If that's the criteria for being a dictator, then, you know, I think half of the population is guilty.
He he he happy birthday me two months late and call me by the wrong name. And I again, I wasn't expecting anything out of this interaction. So why do you keep mentioning it? By the way, this interaction, I didn't even know this interaction was going to happen. I don't think you guys have disclosed that. I wasn't aware that this was clear to everyone that you don't know what's
happening okay yeah I walk I walk into this room I was told to spit in a sit in a different spot than normal okay so there was an agenda clearly but I am fine with the way this interaction when I think I I think he understands now that there is an appreciation of his work yeah on a very grand when asked if he would hang out with you he said fuck no I I don't need to hang out with him yeah
You don't have to reject a date that you've not invited on.
It was released on various media, of course. Now, that's very expensive, so keep your greasy fingers off of it. You can touch the case. I don't want it on the disc, okay?
Well, I've known you for decades, and we've had these experiences before. So basically, I have in a quest. This is actually a very well recorded album and very well mixed a lot of dynamics. But in recent releases, those dynamics are squashed. There's a trend to make digital releases of music sound as loud as possible.
OK, nobody wants their song to sound quieter on the radio or on a streaming service compared to the song next to it. You know, your body language makes me feel a bit rushed. This is going to take a while. Okay. Okay.
This is not, this is not punchy stuff. This is a slow burn.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yes.
OK, for anyone that doesn't know, we've been joined by Geddy Lee. I believe your original name was Gary Levy, Toronto, Canada, perhaps a man of Willowdale.
I understand. Nevertheless, I appreciate what he's done. And now I want to hear his work in the best way possible. It's really honoring him and his bandmates.
All right. So I like a dynamic version. Now, my favorite recording or mastering of moving pictures was actually an original Dutch vinyl record. And there is a famous digital rip of that online. And I requested permission to play it on air and I was unable to obtain that permission. Are you feeling are you feeling at all unsafe right now?
These men and their engineers at Les Studio in Morin Heights, Quebec in 1980, 1981, spent a lot of time to get a certain sound. They experimented with different techniques. Digital technology was new at that time. Their drummer, Neil Peart, wore a microphone taped to his chest to get a drummer's
And you bring up that iconic song, Tom Sawyer by Rush, that starts our show. I would like to point out that longtime listeners of our show may have noticed something a little different today in that our engineer Eduardo graciously played my preferred mastering of that song. This is not the readily available mastering that any fool would get on a streaming service these days. Any fool?
Okay, I have put a lot of time and money into seeking out the best version of all of my favorite music. I have bought probably 20 versions of that album on various media. Great. Well, better that than have your kids go to college. Yeah. These are hobbies. We all have our hobbies. OK. OK. These are benevolent pursuits. You spend your money on various hobbies.
Look, I appreciate the music. I understand that we don't need to know each other in real life. I respect that professional distance. Nevertheless, I appreciate the music. I have... Many things to say, which will go unsaid today and stay for another day.
Fire away. More so requests than questions. I've educated myself on most of the knowledge base out there. But of course, there are requests, certain material I would like to see. There was a 1990 concert at the Palace of Auburn Hills, Michigan on the Presto tour.
It was shot by the in-house cameras at the venue and parts of it were released on a special album release a few years ago, but it wasn't the entire concert. I'd like to see the entire concert on video of that Presto show because that was my first concert April 1990.
Yeah, it was released under the name Through the Rabbit Hole. And I understand the artist doesn't necessarily oversee every aspect of this. That would be incredibly tiresome. And that's not his responsibility. His responsibility was to make the music. And then he has the right people that he trusts to take it from there. And I respect that. I'm not requesting that you handle it personally.
But if it ever comes up in discussions, there is a call for that by the fans. And I would like to see the last some of the later albums such as Vapor Trails and Clockwork Angels released in a more dynamic form in 2015. The Abbey Road engineer, Sean McGee, remastered most of their catalog from their Mercury years and then some of the later releases as well. But he never got to those two.
And there isn't really there aren't really good dynamic releases of those. I would like to hear those at some point in the future. Thank you for your time and attention. Dude, you need to send me a list of this stuff.
Recently passed, yes.
I believe you have a collection of guitars.
I met him a few times. He's incredibly well-spoken. He's enjoyable when you listen to him speak in interviews, just the way he forms words. Those are called sentences, yeah. Yeah, but the way he puts words together in particular. Yeah, that's a sentence. He's a verb. He's an adjective. The man's very intelligent, well-spoken. I enjoy listening to people like that. I don't know.
I mean, I listen to him. He seemed like a nice, smart guy, but I think I'm just as intelligent.
I think there's a conflation with the idea of fandom. So most people are fans and they feel like they need to meet the person. They need to hang out with the person. I'm a huge fan of Rush, but I don't feel the need to hang out or even meet him. Guess what?
Right. Based on this presentation, based on what he was given, I would not want to meet me either. So you understand. What I'm saying is he's seeing a very limited side of me. No, no, no. He's not seeing a limited side of you. That is you. No, he is seeing what was just presented to him. What was just presented to him is you.
I can't wait to see you guys use that.
Yeah, it is. Mine's a little different. I use a torch, so I don't have a big furnace of glass. I have a torch that I use, and then I get these glass tubes in four-foot lengths, and then I'll create stuff out of that. So I don't have a big furnace that I pull globs of glass out of. Well, you know what?
I love your take on that.
It's called Apex Design Glass. So I made that name when I was in high school for a web design business I was doing. And then I just kept it through my glassblowing business as well.
Yeah, if you look up Apix Design, then yeah, I got a website, I got an Instagram. I have a good little following of people who like my glass, so it's easy to find it.
I'm in Vacaville, California, so near Sacramento, Napa Valley area. Oh, okay.
I don't want to keep saying bongs. I actually sent you guys a gift. What?
I'm a glassblower, a glass artist. So I work with, these are glass lays. So I work with glass tubing and glass rods and I create stuff out of glass.
Yeah, this is a scientific glassware. So like you'd find in really nice, you know, Pyrex glass. Yeah. So this can be used for, you know, it can go in the dishwasher. It's not sensitive to heat. So you can put hot stuff in there. No problem. This is extraordinary.
Which is a blue. No problem. I'm glad I could get you guys some stuff. Once I heard I was going to be on here, I really wanted to get something made for you guys.
Well, I mean, I got told on Thursday that you guys wanted me to be on here. And then by Saturday, I was finishing it up. And then Sunday, I did the sandblasting and I sent it out on Monday. Oh, my God. If I'm really, you know, really want to get something done, I can do it pretty quick.
My main product that I make is water pipes. So I make bongs, basically. I see them back there. Look at those.
um and uh we're very proud of this and we're proud of you proud to have you as a fan really hey thank you very much and uh yeah i had one quick question i was curious you know uh as a celebrity um i'll handle you know you um like when i get home i i like to do stuff around the house so like i'll help my wife doing stuff or i'll you know work on the backyard yep
And I was curious, as a celebrity, is there something that you go home and your wife's like, I want these photos hung up on the wall? Like, what do you do when you get home and you're asked to do something? Do you just call someone or do you take charge of doing stuff like that?
Okay, awesome. Yeah, that's what I wanted to hear. I was curious what you, you know, if you called like a butler to come help you or something.
I started in high school, so I feel like everyone in high school kind of wanted or needed a bong. And I liked making things, so that drew me to it. I originally started, I wanted to do welding, but it was a little complicated, I feel like, so I went into glassblowing, which was even more complicated. Yeah.
See, that's your curse. You bring so much curse, curse, blessing. I say you bring so much joy. You bring so much joy and you have such an extraordinary mind. But your curse is you can't shut it off and you're tortured 24 seven by cracking jokes, by feeling the need to crack jokes to every emotional event that happens.
Yeah.
I'm saying there's a time and a place for everything. There are times that I want gems.
You're wearing a nice hat. That's right. One may think after so many decades that your extraordinary mind doesn't necessarily impress me on a daily basis. Even I have thought these things sometimes. But then every once in a while, there's something like the Hot Ones appearance, and I'm newly amazed all over again. fantastic masterclass. Oh, please.
I mean, there's so there's so much to say about it. I appreciated the show. I appreciated the host. I appreciated a quality of the host that reminded me of you back on the old late night show in that in the late night show, you created a venue to showcase comedy and let that comedy shine, even if in that particular moment, it wasn't you personally shining.
They have a great format, very clever in that it disarms the guest and presents more accurate depiction of the true guest. But they also, as much as their format, they're not rigid about their format. And they allowed you they knew you came in with material. Your great strength was you were always there as much or as little as your guest needed you to.
So if you had someone like Martin Short and Tom Hanks that came with material, you knew when to shut up and kind of let them do their thing. And if you're with someone that needed some assistance, you were there to give some support. And I think it's kind of the same thing. He knew that you came with material and he was happy to kind of let you run with it. It's a great sleep machine, by the way.
No, I thought the host was great. The host was obviously well-researched, which has been discussed.
Yeah. Well, we have free time on this show. This is free time. I have the floor. I have the floor. Whoa. This is what I choose to talk about.
Time to get in your clown car there, Binky. This show is a slow burn, okay? We're not looking for like hit, hit, hit, hit. People are just driving. They enjoy just like human conversation. You see, here we are. Here we are, two men. And we're just talking. You keep saying we're men and you keep saying we're human. We're two men. We are relatable to humanity because they look at us.
They look at us and maybe we represent parts of their own psychology. And here we are interacting. what I'm saying is there are parts of us that are relatable to the listeners and, and you may think there's an expectation that we have to keep things moving at a certain comedic pacing. And I, and I enjoy just talking to you.
100% improv. Great. Yeah. It's the real deal. Great.
Would you like to? To echo what you said, I'm very particular about the products I use. I believe that one's life in part is defined by the products that surround us. We spend hours with these things, maybe even years. And aesthetically speaking, I like to have objects of beauty and utility around me. Now, I choose my products very carefully. And that is certainly true in the case of toilet paper.
Now, I've got some products here. that I want to talk about. Wow. That's a lot of toilet paper there. Well, I do buy toilet paper in bulk because, well, first of all, the need never goes away. Because you're a mad shitter.
So listen, I choose my toilet paper very carefully, and I like this to be a once-in-a-lifetime endeavor, okay? I don't need to re-choose my toilet paper every decade.
OK, well, this is a cliche and a theory by those that are uneducated. Sometimes a vinyl pressing.
The conversation's over. Unless there's some new technology that needs to be introduced to the world. So many years ago, I sampled different toilet papers. There were the aesthetics. There was the design on the paper itself. Was it a quilt? Where did you sample them?
Over time, I purchased different items.
No, I did not. No.
I decided on a on Charmin. At the time, it was called, I believe, Charmin Plus or Charmin Plus Lotion or Charmin Plus Aloe. And they've gone through many iterations of the name over the years. And it was basically they marketed it as having lotion in it. The lotion was mainly mineral oil. Sure, they put some Aloe in there just to say that they did.
But the bulk of it was mineral oil, which is not an expensive addition. Nevertheless, when you're talking about friction. A situation which is inherently comprised of friction and abrasion. What do you mean a situation? What I'm saying is the use of toilet paper. Any any physicist would know that the use of toilet paper involves friction to objects rubbing together. You're talking about abrasion.
You're talking about erosion for all the environmentalists out there. There is a human bodily erosion when using any toilet paper product. Okay. Any toilet paper.
I know these are master musicians. Neil Young appreciates the value of dynamic range. It was featured heavily in his Pono music service. Nevertheless, sometimes the format itself is mostly irrelevant. OK, what is relevant is the particular mastering. So sometimes the CD will have the better mastering. Sometimes the vinyl will have the better mastering. I have so much to say on this.
You're going to get erosion. You're wearing away pieces of your ass. What are you doing? Yes, you absolutely. If it's if that's where you're using it. What I'm saying, what I'm saying is.
Where are you using it? I use toilet paper on many areas of my body. What are you talking about? My nose, my ears. I use it to wipe. You use Kleenex for your nose. No, I use toilet paper for my nose. Sure, in a situation where I'm sick and there's an excess of mucus, I'll invest in a box of Kleenex.
But why have a product that's good for one use when I can have a multi-use product like toilet paper? I use toilet paper for cleaning up the bathroom sink of the errant spills so as not to mineralize the countertop. I use it to clean up the toilet rim should there be any urine. I use it to... Urine? Did you say urine? I use it on different body parts. It's really a jack of all trades.
Do you lactate? What I'm saying is anytime there's a discharge, to me, toilet paper is going to be my first choice. Toilet paper is a big part of my life. See, some people take Q-tips for their ears, which, by the way, is unsafe. And now you have a second dedicated product that's only for your ears. What about toilet paper?
What's the problem with using toilet paper to clean out your ears and your nose? Anyway, listen, I don't mean to go on too much about the secondary uses. Nevertheless, don't give me that deep breath. I understand that you're in a rush, but I have a lot to say about toilet paper.
Because you're talking... Get to the point, which is... This is the point. This is the point. I decided on Charmin toilet paper. They had a few varieties at the time because they liked to overcomplicate their product line. I went with the version with lotion, which turned out to be mineral oil. Okay. It's had a number of different... Now, the Charmin people, the Procter & Gamble...
People, they're listening to this right now. And those 30-something marketing people are saying, is this true? Did it used to be called Aloe and E? Because they only know it as Charmin Ultra Gentle, the common name. And there's one guy that probably knows that it was.
I buy my toilet paper in bulk because it never expires. I don't enjoy buying toilet paper. I don't want to buy toilet paper more often. I want to buy it less often.
Do they think you have an issue? Yes. Yes, I do get unusual looks. I'm used to unusual looks for a variety of reasons that never that never deters me. So I buy mine by the case. So I've got some cases here. I've got a back stock that I bought over the past few years. OK, now this is.
I pick the most damaged box because I like the boxes to look aesthetically beautiful. When I have an entire room full of toilet paper boxes, I like them to look beautiful. A lot of times you get shipping damage. Anyway, so the point is I buy them in these cases of 18 rolls. These are mega rolls.
Now, again, in a ridiculous overcomplication, Procter & Gamble has decided to offer different sizes of their rolls. They have the regular roll. They have the giant roll. Then they have the mega roll. The mega is the biggest. I've done the research.
No, the mega roll. You would not a person of your course, visual perception would not even recognize the difference between a giant roll and a mega roll. But I do. OK, I look deep beneath the surface. Anyway, just listen to me, OK? This case, this case.
Yeah, this case of 18 Charmin Ultra Gentle mega rolls cost $19.99. I bought this for many years. OK, slight variations of the price up and down, but that's basically it. So recently I bought my Charmin order and I bought my 18 mega rolls for $19.99 and this came, okay? And I could already see the packaging is different and this is telling me, yeah.
So this is telling me that something is off, okay? So something changed. Something changed. Instead of a case, now I have this package. And immediately I'm suspicious. And listen, I don't want to look for a new brand of toilet paper. I don't like change when it comes to my toilet paper. OK, a lot of things in life should change.
But like things like matches, toilet paper, they don't need to change. So. The old Charmin Ultra Gentle, while the sheet size is the same, had 286 two-ply sheets per roll. Okay. The new Charmin has 231 two-ply sheets per roll. Okay. So the overall square footage of an 18-pack used to be about 51 meters squared, which Whereas this is only about 41 meters squared, which is a 20% decrease.
So I get it. Okay. Costs are rising in the toilet paper industry and they've got to recoup. Okay. Now I don't believe they're being greedy. I don't think they're trying to impress their shareholders. I understand that the toilet paper cost of improves. Now they could raise the price 20% and then you'd have $24 and I'd get my same product. And you know what? I'd happily pay that $24.
So say you. There are people. There's a community. I'm part of online forums. There's a community of people like me out there.
Because I understand inflation exists. But instead, they say, let's charge the same. Let's make the rolls 20% smaller. Now, you can compare the old roll and the new roll, and you'll see a drastic difference. You okay?
That's correct. You know, as I was listening to that song, something occurred to me.
Why is your face? Listen to me.
That's just my face. Now, listen to me. This clearly means I'm going- This is the new one, and this is the old one.
Okay, fine. That's, that's no bombshell. But the point is, why do I have to change my toilet paper roll 20% more often? Why I'm always going to need new toilet paper. Okay. It's not like I'm just going to buy one roll and be like, okay, that's it. I'm done when this rolls over. For the rest of my life, I'm going to be making sure that there is toilet paper on that toilet paper holder, okay?
And why do I have to now... Because they have this marketing plan that are going to trick people into thinking that they're getting the same value. Now, I have to change my toilet paper roll more frequently. I have to buy more cases of toilet paper over the course of my lifetime. I have to maintain those cases and store those cases. Like, I just don't understand.
Just be upfront and be like, hey, we're charging $24. And by the way, the packaging has changed too. I used to... If I have guests... I like to put a six pack of Charmin unopened, sealed into that restroom.
It's called the Jordan Schlansky Music Hour. I bring in my extensive collection of music. This is the Conan and Jordan show. Do you need content for this station? Because I have an idea. This is free content. I do an hour every week. And I play my favorite pressings of different songs. John Parr's St. Elmo's Fire. Do you know that the first note is upcut on most of the CD releases?
I'll tell you why. Okay, if you go into a guest room, you want to know you have enough toilet paper for your stay there. You don't want to worry that you're going to have to ask for more toilet paper.
Because that's implying that you use above the average amount of toilet paper, okay? Yeah. Six rolls is enough to comfort people. It's not excessive. It's like, no matter what happens to me in this week, I'm going to have enough toilet paper. Six of these? Six of these?
You don't have to use all six. You just know they're there. Okay? It's comforting.
Abundance. I like to show them that there is an abundance of toilet paper. Whatever happens to you while you're here, you are covered. Anyway, just let me get this out.
I want my guests to know it's Charmin because I want them to know it's a high-quality premium product, and I'm not just buying in bulk at Costco.
Are you getting any money from Charmin? No. Clearly not. I just criticize them. But at the same time, I do appreciate the quality of the paper. That has not changed. Nevertheless, their new packaging inside the outer package with the bear is just a generic plastic case. My guests think that I'm buying from like Costco or something like that. They don't know it's Charmin.
I'm saying if you are, if you are that person, I got you covered. If you're a normal person, you're covered too. Okay, so next time I come to your house. You're going to have plenty of toilet paper and you may not use it. And that's fine. I don't expect you to use it. But if you need to use it, it's there. You will never have to ask me for more toilet paper. Do you imagine the humiliation?
Excuse me.
Do you have any more toilet paper? I gave you plenty of toilet paper. I need more toilet paper.
That would be that would be unexpected. I don't want to give them cases. I'm not going to put cases in there. That's ridiculous. But I'd like to put a six pack. I have a question for you.
I have adaptive techniques, as Darwin has showed us. The key to survival is not strength, but adaptability. I adapt to any situation.
I believe in orienting the puborectalis muscle in a certain position to allow a greater elimination at home. And I have devices that yield this result at home.
However, there's one particular one where the note is intact. Don't you think your viewers would want to hear that?
Okay, but when I travel... What erectus bone? When I travel, I don't have access to my devices, so I improvise.
I use a garbage can in the hotel.
I don't use the garbage can in the way you're thinking. I use a garbage pail to orient my body in a certain position. Do you understand?
I adapt to the situation. This is why I survive. It's not my strength. It's my adaptability. If I don't have a toilet stool to properly orient my puborectalis muscle.
Well, first of all, there shouldn't even if you're a human animal, a Neanderthal, and you wanted to.
No one's ever said Neanderthal. I just said it. The point is you're supposed to be squatting on the ground, fully squatted in a fully squatting position to open up that puborectalis.
Yeah, so that simulates a squatting position, even though you're on a modern toilet bowl. Now, also, you haven't even mentioned how tall that toilet bowl is. You know, there's a variable height. I like to go with the Kohler Wellworth, 15 inches off the ground, no more. Then they have a higher one.
By Rush. I believe, listening to it, that that's the 2015 Sean McGee remaster. He works at Abbey Road Studios. He did the Beatles 2009 CD set. Anyway, it's got good dynamic range, but I just thought of a new show. You know, I have a hobby that you may not be aware of. I collect various CD pressings from all over the world.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
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If you look at the 1975 old gray whistle test performance of piano, man, his voice is so pure and high. And it's that combination of the masculine rough and tumble nature with that.
But I think we should have free time. Like, I know you have scheduled things, an agenda, if you will. But I think we should leave time to just discuss things that are interested, that we're interested by at any particular time.
Well, me and you, because we are 50% stakeholders in this show. Not financially, of course.
You'll never see a dime from this. But in terms of content, I would like to think.
you why is it that you wear that same shirt on every oh yes the uh the famous um practice of albert einstein uh excuse me it's einstein oh no it's einstein no he was a german i know but people just say einstein well i say einstein in the country of germany where he comes he said einstein you are not in germany right now you just say i don't need to be in germany i know how to pronounce the man's name it's einstein
Well, now you've heard it.
Yeah. So modern music is generally standardized and whatever country you live in, you're getting the same CD quality. But back in the 80s and 90s, CDs in different countries had different sounds. They were mastered by different people. And I always pick my favorite. I've spent many thousands of dollars on this hobby. I have my favorite versions of moving pictures.
As described by Jeff Goldblum in 1986's The Fly by David Cronenberg, Albert Einstein wore the same outfit every day so he didn't have to devote mental energy into choosing his outfit. We are weakened by every decision we make.
I want to avoid the up cut. Nobody wants the up cut. Everybody wants that solid first note. I'm fine with the St. Elmo's Fire that came out, right? You don't know what you're fine with. You take what you're given. You subscribe to compressed music services. I like uncompressed high dynamic range music.
What part would you like? Just go. Growing up. Well, you know what?
I could see a new horizon underneath a blazing sky. I'll be where the eagles are flying higher and higher. You're under arrest. Yeah.
You know Charles in charge.
The second season of all the sitcoms, like, let's take Perfect Strangers. Great, great theme song. Sometimes the world looks perfect. And then the second season, they always had to add this keyboard flourish. Or look at Growing Pains, you know, show me that smile again. But the second season, Jennifer Warrens has to join and make it a duet.
And she doesn't add, like, her lyrics are the same lyrics that were originally there. She doesn't add anything. She just echoes the original lyrics.
Negativity doesn't lessen my passion for the things that I love. And in fact, it enforces it.
My birthday was adequate. How did you celebrate it? You know, I am I'm a private man. Some say an introvert, some say an observer of humanity. I like to be the observer, not the observed. I don't typically publicize.
In fact, the atomic CD from Mercury with the matrix number ending from three to five is my favorite. Anyway, so here's my idea.
Well, you know, I don't like to be celebrated in any way or acknowledge.
Right. What I'm saying is I don't like any attention. OK, I prefer to watch things unfold with, you know, sporadic participation. Yet I don't like people to know things about me and I don't like them to know when it's my birthday. And I don't like any attention that I might receive.
I mean, that's an analogy, I guess.
Yeah, I'm an observer. I'm a student. I'm a perpetual student.
I don't believe in judging other people's passions, but that's a stupid hobby. Because no one listens to CDs anymore. It's an outmoded... Well, you like music. And if I tell you I can give you the best Beatles pressing, whatever you're listening to Rubber Soul on, I can give you a better version of Rubber Soul. I would take the 1965 Stereo 2 cut vinyl pressing by a certain vinyl ripper that I know.
You know, there are different people across this great planet. And for any type of person, there's someone that adores them.
What I'm saying is, while you may not appreciate all my nuances, there are people that do appreciate these things.
A quiet time bucket? That there are some people that enjoy hearing what I have to say.
Well, I assume you got a lot of attention on that day, and I'll save it till I see you, and I can wish you a happy birthday in person.
Happy birthday. Thank you. That was worth the wait. But I am aware of your birthday. I'm aware of your, you know, April 18th, 1963. Oh, great. I'm aware that you're an Aries, Adias, if you prefer the correct pronunciation. Would you say, no, people just say Aries. Yes, they do. But nevertheless, I'm aware of your birthday. What astrological sign was Einstein? Yes.
What I'm saying is, on your birthday, I take a minute. He was a Taurus. Yes, that's Taurus, you know, Toto in Spanish, Italian, the bull Taurus. But but my point is on your birthday, I did silently acknowledge to myself that it was your birthday.
That's Conan's birthday.
There was one moment in particular that I had anticipated, one moment in time. Which was? Which was that silence between the 20th century Fox fanfare and the opening music by John Williams. All I wanted was that moment. All you wanted was that moment? Out of two hours, I wanted that one moment.
And I could tell by the person you were with, you were there in an ironic fashion. You were there to kind of look at the fans and see how they react to the stimulus. I knew what was happening.
But my whole point is... I think you are the ripper.
The part where you weren't cracking jokes in my ear.
What I'm saying is I appreciate the place of humor in the world and certainly your humor. No question. But there are times where I want to be emotionally moved. Do you like is your brain? Your brain fascinates me. You're clearly an extraordinary man. OK, you know, there are times where you want to look at a piece of art and be brought to tears. Do you want do you cry at movies?
Like, are you always cracking jokes in your head like with this ironic stance? Like, if you feel emotion welling in you, do you have to pivot into like cynicism and kind of like deconstructing in a comedic fashion? I don't think I'm a cynical person at all. Do you tear up at movies? Like when you watch Interstellar, the end of Interstellar, for example.
That's not going to happen to me. No. It's fascinating. I know our brains are wired differently. I just am always curious as to the extent of it. So you don't put on movies.
That's me. What I'm saying is when you're alone and there's no audience, do you like, it's like late at night and you're watching like a movie, like the end scene of Gladiator. Do you, are you like cracking jokes in your head at completely inopportune times?
Okay.
Oh yeah, I know the shot you're talking about.
Well, I don't feel like it accurately reflects my work performance. I think I bring value to my employment. I think I bring value to your life as a friend and compatriot. I think I'd like to think I'd like to think that your life is of a better quality for having known me.
Maybe that is arrogant in some fashion, but I'd like to think we have a mutually respectful relationship. I certainly respect you. You're an extraordinary man.
Now, now what is the proper context for that? Let's be, let's be realistic. Okay. We've known each other for decades. Um, and we work in a very intimate environment, uh, many hours we've been through tough times and, um, Good times. Seen each other grow. Been there for each other through thick and thin. I've seen emotional damage. I've seen physical damage. What are you talking about?
I've seen injury. I've seen you concussed. Yeah. Yes, I've seen you in your lowest emotional state and your highest emotional state, often within a one hour period. Yeah. And and with that intimacy, with that intimacy, because we are human beings and this is not a robotic interaction.
Most human beings just what I'm saying is there are going to be ups and downs. Yes, of course. I respect you and I think you're a great man. Are you without injury to me? Have there been injurious experiences? Of course there have. And I accept that as part of the human experience. We can speak of them if you like.
Well, listen, again, we have to present proper context. Of course, I'm concerned about your health and your longevity, both from a practical financial standpoint and also a human relationship standpoint. If I see you partaking in unhealthy behavior, I'd like to think we're at a stage where I can mention it to you respectfully.
Yeah, it started at the end of 2001. It was right after that. And by 2003, you had corrected.
Thank you, John. I can't confirm that I use that word, but I have no reason to doubt you.
When I called you the beast, was I referring to your physical condition or was I referring to maybe an emotional attack that you performed on me?
I don't even know anymore. Well, if you prefer to speak about injurious behavior, we can. You've clearly brought up something that bothers you, this comment that I allegedly made.
Yeah, you know, I'm noticing right now on the right corner of your mouth, I'm curious, above all, scientifically speaking, you two are doctors. Doctor comes from the Latin docere, or in the ecclesiastical pronunciation, docere. It actually means to teach, which is perfectly suited to you two. Right. I'm just curious scientifically, how does it happen? Like you have a mirror, you're shaving.
How do you miss such large chunks of hair on the corners of your mouth? And I'm not trying to insult you. I know conventionally speaking, it sounds like I am. I'm really, as a scientist, how does it happen? I'm just very curious.
This is bad for both. Can I respectfully ask, which I think is constructive, if I notice large patches of unshaved hair on your face, would you prefer if I remain silent and don't bring it to your attention? Like if you walk in and you just have a huge patch of hair maybe on your head. Adam's apple, for example. You prefer that I note it internally.
Well, first of all, you're implying that the hair is growing out so much. I'm just simply asking you.
I have seen it. I have seen such wild growth in a very specific area. Can I just say one thing?
Okay, I will be quiet. I will note it to myself.
maybe before taping. And bring to your attention your errors, your shaving errors in private. Okay, pause. Yes.
Oh.
Well, I don't assume his intention was to miss the hair, so I consider it an objective analysis.
I cannot.
You don't know, right? Yes, I don't know.
It certainly doesn't matter, but I think when there's an elephant in the room, when a man walks in, who's 95% shaved and there's just hair jetting out of his cheek. I just think it's worth mentioning. I don't mean any insult. I don't mean any insult. It's easily fixable. It's not a slight on your character. We all make mistakes. I make mistakes.
They're not related to large tufts of hair on my face. But I just think that as human beings, we have to acknowledge something so painfully obvious that was somehow missed. With all your technology, mirrors, you have lighting in your bathroom. But I'll do as you say and pull you aside and let you know.
These are your insults that I didn't know where the Karate Kid 2 was filmed?
Ralph Macchio. It's Macchio. In fact, the C-H makes a hard C sound like Pinocchio.
I see.
Yes. I imagine a world where one can share information, where human beings can increase their collective intellect by sharing information. I've learned some things. You've learned some things. You tell me what you know. I'll tell you what I know. So so you may not know that the C.H. is pronounced with the heart. And that's understandable. I wouldn't expect it to.
Italian is not your first language, but unlike you. And you certainly know things that I don't know. Presidential history, for example. And we can share with each other and we can both come out smarter and more knowledgeable for it. I don't see the contempt. Yes.
Yes.
So you would prefer, respectfully, if I may ask, so I know how it's going forward.
You would prefer if I do not correct your mispronunciations, allow you to speak with your customary authority, even when I know that you are making errors. Or maybe pull you aside, right? Before the taping and tell you?
You're just wrong all the time. I let him finish. I did not interrupt him. Even though my instinct was to say immediately, that is incorrect. It is the tango. You see, in Spanish and Spanish-speaking countries, known as Hispanic, which differs from Latin American in the sense that Latin American refers to only Latin American countries. Hispanic, it's any country that speaks Spanish.
The A is almost always pronounced ah. So...
What exactly was the assignment?
Well, I mean, we're two men in an incredibly intimate situation. I think that we.
Intimacy is not necessarily sexual, although often is.
And the humor is really fun. This is amazing. I've never thought of it that way. I'd like to think that we represent the human condition with all of its ups and downs. Oh, my God. You said this speech earlier before they came in. People may find this realistic approach to life endearing and they may enjoy watching for that reason. I'm sorry I've hurt you with my... Misinformation.
No, they didn't shoot it in Los Angeles. They shot it in Hawaii.
Okay, but you didn't say Hawaii, did you? I just said Hawaii now.
I've improved myself. I'm sorry. I've improved myself.
I'm open to improvement.
Yes.
You're right. Yes. You see, my intentions were never evil. Just as I know your intentions were never evil when you've committed injury against me in the past. When have I committed? Well, it's interesting that you ask because we spent the first hour talking. talking about the ways I've damaged you by answering questions by... Let him run just a little bit. Let's hear this. Go ahead.
Now, again, I want to preface this by saying I expect, when you're talking about decades of intimate relationships, that there are going to be inadvertent slights to the other person, okay? Uh... The year was 1999, May 1999, and the world had not seen a new Star Wars movie release in 16 years. And at the time, the Star Wars franchise was pristine. You have to understand, put yourself back then.
And they announced that a new Star Wars film would be coming out in May 1999. And I was a big fan. You know, my brothers were as well. And I decided to pull out all the stops and get tickets to an advanced screening of this movie a week before the public would see this. Now, you may think media screenings are all civilized, but when it comes to Star Wars, people still line up three hours before.
So my brother came into New York City on the train. He spent hours. We got there maybe four hours in advance, and we just sat on the sidewalk together waiting for this momentous occasion. And we were one of the first ones in the theater, and we sat right in the center.
judged how many rows were there we wanted the full surround sound experience we wanted to get lost in it and of course the theater filled up and i was thinking any fool that walks in now is going to be like in the back corner and i was envisioning the magic of that moment after it says a long time ago in a galaxy far far away before the john williams score do you guys have anywhere to go
I was envisioning it bringing me back to my childhood. I wanted to relive what it was like to be an innocent child with my brother, okay? So about two minutes before the movie starts, I hear some commotion behind me. And this guy stumbles in with this like...
Well, they're not mutually exclusive concepts.
brainy npr type woman with with him and they excuse me excuse me some woman is escorting them because they're like elite and there just happened to have been i guess someone left or something two seats right behind me in the center i had been there for five hours this guy stumbles in wait he's like tripping he's like tripping over people so he sits down stumble i wasn't drinking
No, you kicked people. You were like one of those people. Inadvertently, you tripped over people. So now you're sitting behind me and you start gabbing to me. And already, I don't want to talk to anybody. I just want to get lost in this moment, okay? So the lights go down and the 20th Century Fox logo comes up. And I'm thinking to myself, this is it. After 16 years, this is it.
Yes.
And that silence comes right after that fanfare before the flourishing music. And this guy leans forward and starts cracking jokes. This guy makes it all about him. He takes me completely out of the moment. He starts dabbing in the middle of the movie theater and you just needed that laugh. You had to take that moment, not knowing the history of what I went through to get that laugh.
And, you know, he's sitting there chuckling and forever you've taken that moment away from me. Now, I know that it was not intentional. He may not have had respect for the situation, and most people know that they're not supposed to speak in a movie theater, especially something of that magnitude. I knew those sequels wouldn't be good.
And I think I communicated to him my interest in what was happening and my disregard for anything that he may have had to say. Will you admit now that those movies were not great? Yes, in retrospect, they were not necessarily as good as the first.
Are you asking me about these things? Are you just telling me that you dislike me for real and you dream about terminating my employment?
I am sorry if I have reminded you of your father. I'm sorry if I have brought you back to painful moments in your childhood when I told you how to pronounce Ralph Macchio's name. It's Macchio. No, it's Macchio. I am sorry if some of my information sharing has been offensive. I certainly didn't mean it that way.
I may have made mistakes like any other human being. I don't know that's a reason to discount my entire credibility. Going forward, I will make an attempt if I notice a large patch of hair on your face that you miss shaving, I will make an attempt to tell you privately as per your request. Thank you.
Also, I will ask you if I have something to share that's relevant to what we're speaking about, some facts, Latin origins of words or other etymology. I will ask you first, do you want to hear what I have to say? I don't want to, ever. Well, it depends on the context.
Thank you. That is a very valid question. You see, I don't honestly don't look at it as correcting. I look at it as sharing information.
Let's come out of this as enhanced human beings.
Yes.
I'd like to think that over time we have built up a foundation of love and understanding to the point where we can exchange information and not have it necessarily interpreted as hostile.
I see your face and I just want to smash it. I've learned. I've learned today. I've learned that you're in pain. And now I understand why. And I will envision you as a helpless child competing with other siblings.
I will envision you doubting your own self-worth. There's the contempt. Well, this way I understand his pain and his vulnerabilities, his weakness, if you will. Do you really? Yes.
I can imagine. I put myself in his situation, okay? He's got a lot of siblings. Now, look at his father.
Some would say that's a healthy sibling interaction.
Never again. I don't intend to slander your father nor any of O'Brien's, Neil, Justin, Kate, Jane, any of them. You know them all.
I think it's 76 years. Haley's. Oh, excuse me. I have information about Haley's comment. Would you like to hear it?
I understand from an entitled perspective, you may think you can move through life without worrying about obstacles and just go where you please, but there are icebergs out there and you do need to navigate them like any other human.
Why do you say I'm large? I'm tall. Why do you say I'm large? I'm a mesomorph. I'm very average. I'm medium. Okay. Moderate.
It feels special. Something's going on here.
Yes. We're sitting in different positions. There's like a hubbub going on. And I don't know why.
And I'll say that I've never met you two before, but you have the air of incredibly kind people. There's something there's a vibe that you two have that makes me feel like I've known you for.
What are the numbers? 99 and 130. Yep. What does that mean?
I don't know how this has been calibrated. I can't verify its accuracy.
I see.
So these are evolutionary responses designed to protect us against a threat, against a large prehistoric animal that may be attacking us. Our body reacts in a way that will really ensure our survival. And my reaction to this... animal is in the end to benefit my own survival.
Yeah, that's fascinating to me. International connection is, it's a great coming together of humanity from disparate cultures and communities. And this technology that we find ourselves surrounded with allows this to happen. And really, it just allows for a deeper human connection.
I'm sorry. I can't.
I'm sorry. I respect inanimate objects, okay? It's like a Japanese mentality, okay? I treasure these. If they were sentient, I think they would value the way I treated them. Nevertheless, I went to replace this product when it was damaged. I live in the United States and I was served this Panasonic ER411. This is disgusting. What?
This is oversized. It's light and plastic. It looks like a rocket ship. The cutting mechanism I actually replaced. This had been discontinued, but I was able to buy the cutting part. I replaced it.
Okay, you buy a $15...
Yeah. This was an inadequate product. This was no longer made in Japan. It was made in a country that is arguably known for some lower quality production methods. It looks like a rocket ship. It draws unnecessary attention to itself. It's a bright silver color. This was what you would get as an American after the glory days of nose hair trimmers.
Well, one is silver and one is gray. We define ourselves by the objects we interact with every day. I surround myself with beauty, with high levels of aesthetic pleasure, and it's not only putting on beautiful clothes, it's also using a beautiful nose hair trimmer. It's also understanding that everything we interact with defines our life. So I wanted a well-made product.
So built is like milked, not built. I didn't build you money. I didn't build. I didn't help you build an empire. No one said you'd build anything like the second employee of Apple in 1976 is a multibillionaire because they got it in a time where Apple wasn't a sure thing. They were risking their potential future.
I was not happy with this product, but I thought it was my only option. So I trimmed my nose hair unhappily with that product. And when did this one commit suicide? You found this guy hanging. So then I visited the country of Japan and I found out that Panasonic sells a different nose hair trimmer model for the Japanese clientele. Oh, so they sell us the inferior one. The ER-GN10.
And look how sleek and stylish this product is. This thing feels amazing in the hand. It's perfectly balanced. It's reminiscent of my old ER-409. This is from 25 years ago. This is from today. Why do you know the serial numbers? And since I was in Japan, I knew that this was not going to last forever, despite the fact that it is still made in Japan in a high quality. So I bought spares.
And then I found that on my second trip, they had come out with the ER... It originally was the ERGN-10. Then they came out with the ERGN-11. I bought two of those. Hold on a second. Let me see this. Look at the beautiful... Just look at the packaging. I mean, this is clearly a product made for a clientele that demands high quality products. Look at your eyes. You look insane.
Why do they sell this to Americans and this beauty? Why do they sell this disgusting rocket ship to Americans and this beautiful piece of machinery to the Japanese clientele? I just I don't understand the logic of that. But nevertheless, how many of these did you buy? I bought four of them. But now I can see you being a little worried that you should have bought a fifth.
You take what you're given. I don't know what kind of nose hair trimmer you you just buy whatever is available. I seek out high quality wherever on the planet it may lie. What do you even use to trim your nose hair?
What does that have to do with anything? You don't employ a hair and makeup person. What are you talking about?
Okay, so you may contract one intermittently, but I'm saying that's not going to take care of your nose hair on a regular basis. I use little scissors. How do you get rid of that quantity of hair with a simple manual device like that?
They could have chosen Saturday Night Live when they were offered an internship on one of two shows.
There's got to be over 100 individual hairs between those two nostrils. Are you telling me? I use little scissors. How long does that even take? And it's a little bit curved. Are you confident in the quality of your work? I know that if I look in that nose right now and I show the light in there, if you're using manual scissors, there's no way you're accomplishing an efficient whisker removal.
It's not often talked about. You have hair removal challenges. You have shaving problems and you always have. I'll come in and I'll see huge patches of hair on your face, isolated patches of hair. I don't know how, when you have resources available to you, I don't know how this passes inspection.
They took the one that was on 13-week renewals. Now, you know, in that situation, like if you look at the history of the tech companies, the secretaries at Apple and Microsoft are now billionaires. Now, I kind of equate myself to that type of situation. I came in in the early days. There were no guarantees. It was a little bit rough.
I'll come in one day, you've got like a little, you've shaved, but you've got like a tuft of red hair under your nose where your mustache would be. You've got like a random, your neck a lot of times have like, you have shaving problems. And just acknowledge.
You'll have a clump of hair sticking out of your neck in an arbitrary position. Do you want to know what the problem is?
Yeah.
This is a clump of hair.
I'm not concerned with individual hairs. Hurtful. I'm just asking you, do you feel, if you can improve in some way by listening to the things I have to say, why do you have to ridicule? I'm not ridiculing. You have the means. Why do I have to buy it?
I'm not going to put a price tag on this. $100. If someone's doing something better than you, don't ridicule. Just be like, I learned something.
Oh, it's Socrates. Oh, it's Caesar. I understand. Oh, you can be more efficient shaving your nose hair with the eHarchigan 10.
I'm not giving it back. Don't expect that when we walk out of this door, I'm giving it back. You don't have to give it back. Do you want the ERGN-10 or the GN-11?
I'm not clear on what the difference is. That's something I'm curious about, but it's written in Japanese, so you can get... Well, what's the latest version? Oh, I don't know. I'm going to guess if there's the ERGN-10 and the ERGN-11. I'm going to guess maybe the ERGN-11 is more recent. Maybe they're going in a backwards lumbering scheme. If I ever see the GN9, I know that that's a steal.
I mean, these are just basic questions. I don't need to read Japanese or understand anything specific about nose hair. Just give me everything you have. No. You think you have more than 200 in cash on you?
I'm just saying you have room for improvement. This is nothing to be ashamed about. This is something to embrace. I can help you improve.
And I expect at this point, 30 years later, I would be sitting pretty on a pile of cash.
No, this is not what I use for my ass.
Listen.
What goes up the old bottom? I don't remove hair in that area. Why would you leave that there? Why? I don't have any problem with that hair. What do you mean? I have no problem with that hair. Why do one orifice and not just... This one is visible. Well... This one is, you know, displayed. Uh-huh.
Well, I've got a AA in mind. You may not want the nose trimmer itself, but you could take my battery, I hope. Yeah, I'll take the battery. I mean, the battery's been in indirect contact with my nose and ears.
Now, you stick that up your nose, and if I hear a grinding sound... Hear that? Yeah, I hear it. Hear that? Yeah. If I hear a grind... You're clearly not doing a good job with your scissors. That was all left behind.
Oh my God. Each one of these blasts has like four hairs in it. What do you mean blast? It just keeps going. You're just still in the same nostril. I'm still in the same nostril. So how often do you do this? Do you do this every day? Every Tuesday and Friday, I find it the most efficient days to remove the hair.
I hope...
Yeah, you haven't even gotten to your ears yet. Ears? Yeah, do you still feel like your quaint scissor method is efficient? You know what, I have to say this is better.
And you don't have to worry about this disgusting device. And you claim that you don't learn anything or that there's no value in the knowledge that I have. And look at you now.
You know, there's nothing that I can tell you that you haven't heard before. That's not of any value.
No, that's not a level where you have the top advisors begging to give you their information. I remember when you had these personal trainers in the 90s, you had these guys like, oh, no, we'll learn. This is Will Arnett's guy like you. And I started to give you nutrition advice. Please. I think I've got this covered. I've got Will Arnett's personal. It was actually Will Arnett. Yeah.
No, Arnett was training me. And I would see these protein powders in your office and they were like low quality soy proteins with like incomplete amino acid profiles. And you're like, don't worry, I've got the best people in the business. You let me eat incomplete amino acids?
You have this theory where you're special and you want the best of everything, but you assume that there's nothing that I can tell you that you can't get a better answer on from someone else.
Who else in your life is going to tell you about the ERGN-11? No one else. What other soul on this planet would ever tell you about this? This cost me $200. Yeah. That's a lot. Well, you have to take into account that I cannot easily replace it. There was a plane ticket involved. I brought it into the country. I imported it. I mean, there's a lot of middlemen that were cut out of the deal.
If one is resourceful, I'm sure they can find a way to obtain it.
bag and you're carrying it around and it's sad i admit i have a bag with nose hair trimmers on it these are cool i mean this is you know i'm going to say something these are uh nice yes now i'm i'm going to go home tonight and my wife expects me she's going to notice your clean nose i presume and and she and not just today but going forward this device may last you many years
Does this also work on the ears?
Not that I'm aware of.
I have no recollection of looking at my buttocks in the way that I believe you're referring to.
It doesn't concern you. Have you? Have I what? looked at your anus, I guess, is where you were going with this?
You know, speaking of Tracy Ellis Ross, she asked you about bar soap or liquid soap. You neglected to mention the most important factor in that question, the pH level. You see, liquid soap is often a detergent. Sometimes it's actually a soap that is to say a saponified fat. But often it's a detergent which has a lower pH closer to that of your skin.
Does it go into a chamber at the top? You'll have to clean that out from now.
Naturally, the problem with soap is that it disrupts the acid mantle of the skin.
Uh, I'm pretty content to be honest with you. Uh, I don't really have any chronic conditions, psychological or otherwise. You know, basic human responses. We have fear and frightful situations, and we may feel anxious in situations that would classically inspire such a reaction. I wouldn't say I fall victim to a lot of the...
Yeah.
I know my strengths and my weaknesses and I know my characteristics and I'm I'm quite content with them. Um, you know, I know my limitations and my I'm quite familiar with your limitations.
Yeah, I'm talking about my own psychology. Your treatment of me over the years in financially and otherwise is a completely different subject. I'm talking about psychologically. I am introverted, which I don't think is any secret. And I'm certainly a psychologist. You'll likely read that right away. INTP, if you're a fan of the Myers-Briggs classification system.
You referenced it.
Yeah, it's a good question. That is a good question. I get a lot of different responses. Do you understand? I'm going to guess that a lot of people get mostly consistent responses from those around them with, you know, a few outlying responses. But I get very different responses from different people. I find some people despise me and I find...
But I find that an equal, if not more, number of people embrace me. And I think that if you average it all out, it equals a normal person's response. But mine is a bit polarizing with equal numbers on both sides. And I guess there are a few apathetic in the middle that really don't care one way or the other.
Well, I'm not concerned with being normal. That was never high on my priority list.
Yeah. I like to think that I'm a good person. And in the end, overall, I increase the quality of the lives of people around me. Of course, there are a few exceptions. Inevitable. That's just attrition. as you get in business and life in general. But I try to be a good person. I try to improve the world around me and my limited time here on this earth.
But of course, I don't hit it out of the park every single time. And, you know, some people are easy to read, and I may have more of a stoic demeanor, even if it doesn't necessarily represent what's going on inside me. And some people, when faced with that kind of blank slate, find it often pudding and intimidating in a way. And I understand that and respect that.
Okay, well, listen, Stephanie has made a very good observation, and I am different depending on who I'm talking to, and I do have many sides of my personality, and I truly maintain that they're all genuine, many sides, and the person I'm talking to often evokes a certain aspect, subdivision of my personality, and it is true that you consistently, I'm gesturing to my co-host Conan, evokes a certain response from me
Whereas if I were just talking to Stephanie or some of our other colleagues, they may get a different response from me.
Yeah, good question. Well, I'll tell you, Conan has a certain energy. Some may even say polar opposite to my own. He's very extroverted, very textbook extrovert. He feeds off the energy of others and feels drained when he doesn't get that response from others. And I'm exactly the opposite. And, you know, Conan, we are the same species, Homo sapiens.
But our minds are wired so very differently, it's hard to believe we're the same species. And when I watch him, and I like to observe human beings and humanity in general.
When I watch him and how his mind works, I marvel at it because... In addition to his many talents, his many tangible talents, I marvel at how very different his mind is than mine. He he will go out of his way if we're on an airplane sitting across the aisle to get my attention, to yell across the aisle. And I turn his way and expect he's going to have some great witty quip.
And he just makes a ridiculous face at me. And that was that was so important to him that he had to yell across a crowded airplane cabin to get. And I'm thinking I would never I could have the best joke or observation in the world. I would never take that.
I haven't become a multimillionaire despite getting in at the early days when I could have lost my job at any point, but still stuck with you through thick and thin.
What kind of expression do you want in that moment? I'm just sitting watching the hours go by.
But there's nothing wrong with a placid pond. That's that's what you're missing here. You always need movement. But sometimes the the silence is where the magic is, the stillness.
OK, while I acknowledge that you and I have very different personalities, who's to judge whose personality is superior? You're implying that your own personality is superior.
Well, I'm no psychologist, but to me, I detect an air of insecurity and overcompensation. I don't need to judge you and who's you're certainly an exceptional human being. No question about it. Thank you. And if you compare me to the average human, you might think that I'm a bit different and I don't disagree.
However, when it comes to assessing which is the superior way to be, that's when things get a little murkier. And I don't know that we need to have that competition.
I'm saying Steve Jobs' secretary can buy this entire complex. Well, I prefer the term assistant. Yes.
The convoluted premise that you used to get into these scenarios just baffles me. Why the nose hair intro? Why not just say we have a psychologist on the phone? Why do you feel you need to justify?
At the time, she was probably referred to as a secretary. Nevertheless, I expect that there might be some kind of financial sense of accomplishment as opposed to my. Well, guess what?
If I was in the process of writing it at this very moment, then you could say you write a limerick. Any other context? I wrote a limerick, yes, back in the 90s.
Well, for those unfamiliar with the concept of a limerick, it's a specific. No need. You can just say it. Across Eyre, a young traveler set out on a quest to find fortune, no doubt. As he strolled into Ennis, he was pulled a cold Guinness, hence the lad's pot of gold was that stout.
I'm not qualified to answer that question.
Well, I don't remember exactly. I believe it may have been a trip to Ireland. I've never been to Ireland. I'd love to go to Ireland. It was actually a pub. A pub. A pub in Ireland.
I think you may be referring to a similar contest in an adjacent year. Nevertheless, I believe there was an essay one year and maybe a limerick. There was definitely a limerick involved.
And a limerick was not required. Listen to me. There's a marketing team at Guinness. I'm sure there are a bunch of 30 somethings and they get wind of this and they talk to each other. Is this true? Is this true? Well, ask Ron. He's the old time around here.
He was back here in the 90s and they go to Ron and Ron's, you know, kind of moved up the ladder a little bit, but never really achieved greatness at the company to the point where he could retire. So they ask Ron, was there a thing? And he's like, yeah, there's something about an essay. And they look up the essay and maybe the essay was 96 and mine was 95. Jordan, do
I would never choose to write a limerick if I could have written an essay. I don't want to be confined to very few words.
There was a contest for a limerick. It was specifically a limerick. Do I look like someone that would just decide to write a limerick?
And you decided to write a limerick. My limerick had nothing to do with Guinness is. I'm telling you, these were two separate contests. They had a thing. They went through a period where like every year they had a contest and there was a prize. Nevertheless, it's the same. It's the same intent. You write, you use your creative literary skills.
You're yelling. You're yelling. And I want you to take it down. I'm just saying I was not in direct competition with this woman, but we are compatriots. We are counterparts, maybe one year apart.
You know, I take your point about taking a pouring class because there is a very specific way to do it. There are YouTube videos of bartenders kind of trolling customers and pouring it the wrong way. And it's fascinating to see people know how much head's supposed to be on there. Not too little, not too much. Nevertheless, I don't drink beer myself.
I appreciate the sentiment, even if the second line in the limerick had a meter that was slightly too verbose.
So I'm not getting a trip to Ireland.
Right.
So how come you're not drinking any? I told you I don't drink beer.
liking the beer was not a qualification of entry. All I'm saying is, look, I appreciate the sentiment. This is a nice PR story, but let's look at the facts. I did not get a trip to Ireland. I certainly did not get a pub in Ireland. I got one can of a beverage that I don't even drink.
And in addition to the effort that I put in 30 years ago, you have, as you mentioned, advertised the product quite extravagantly. Nevertheless, I see four cans of this beverage on the table in return.
Yeah, I was asked to bring in a product that I identify with or that I believe in. I'll start by saying that I try to buy very few products in my life. I believe that we can live minimally. But the products that I do buy, I want them to be of a very high quality. I want them to have something special about them. And then I have to buy fewer products going forward because they last longer.
Now, life used to be simple 25 years ago, okay? If you wanted to buy a nose hair trimmer in the United States... You may have bought the Panasonic ER-409. This is my own unit from about 25 years ago.
Sure. I don't have the exact lineage of it, but that's about the time I started trimming my nose hair. I can't tell you if it started growing in then or if I just became aware of it then. But this is a relic. This is an ancient relic. If you look on the bottom, you'll see that it's made in Japan. Of course, Panasonic's headquarters. I never thought much about nose trimmers, but I didn't have to.
I simply trimmed my nose hair with that. And you can trim ear hair as well if you choose. And that was the end of it. It was a successful operation. Yes. The operation was a success. The operation was a success. And then this product was damaged. I may have dropped it. I don't remember. It may have just failed due to its age.
And you know what? I spent no time on it. Yeah. And it's got something dirty in it, so everyone's going to remember it. Yeah, I feel mine is superior. Okay, but the point is, you're still bitter that you lost that Guinness contest. Yeah, yes.
Let's get out of here. There's nothing to eat.
No. My people fled in 1982. The line at Burger King was too long.
Not at all. No, those were like massive battleships. Mm hmm. You know, you hit it with the champagne, they slide into the ocean, then they have a storied career on the high seas defending England or America or whatever country manufactured the ship. This, I don't know, this is the emission of a little gas, maybe from like a broken down machine.
We got to get out of here. Let's get to Brookline, Mass.
They flew over on Aer Lingus. Aer Lingus, that'd be funny in a limerick. Also dirty. Hey, listen, I thought you did a good job with the ad overall. Thanks. This ad? Yeah.
Yeah, you did a fine job. We're going to take a little break. When we return, Jordan and I will have a deep philosophical discussion. Don't touch that dial. All right, I'm going to move on to our next segment. Conan and Jordan discuss a philosophical question. Frank, why don't you tell us what you had in mind here?
Can I stop you before you get boring? Oh, wait, I'd need a time machine for that.
I'd have to go back nine minutes ago to the start of your day.
Blammo! You just got blammoed. My question would be, is sports betting allowed? If sports betting allowed, then definitely. Let's have that. Let's go back in time. I could clean up. Then you make a lot of money. Then you go back further in time when land is really cheap. You go to Long Island and you say, hey there, 1680 farmer, what do you want for these nine acres on the ocean?
These nine acres, why, I would wish to have $6. $6, eh? Here's $16.
Well, thank you.
Yep. That's what you would do.
I'd go to Ford's Theater and I'd say, hey, Abe, behind you. I'd save Abraham Lincoln's life.
I would go back in time.
I don't want to have just one.
Jurassic Park and I think they probably got it right so I don't need to see that and I wouldn't go to the Roman times because I saw Gladiator and I think that's a good I think most movies have pretty accurately depicted what those times were like and I think if I go back in time it's going to look like that only a little dirtier like people's togas will be dirty and I'll be like ah this sort of sucks so I don't want to see that so um nah I don't want to see that stuff I really just want to go to Ford Cedar and go hey Abe heads up
But still, it's something that's happening, and we have to respect it.
Because you know what? I'll tell you this. Abe Lincoln was 6'4", my height, and a strong backwoodsman. He would have turned around. Booth was a relatively small guy and an actor. I've interviewed enough of them to know that they're pretty easy to take in a fight. So he would just clean Booth's clock. That would be fun. Abe would just be wailing on Booth.
I would have witnessed the ultimate beatdown. Abe Blinken kicks the shit out of some little actor, takes his Derringer away and kicks the shit out of him, then throws him off the balcony. And then all the actors that are starring in the play our American cousin starring Laura Keen, they all start kicking Booth.
Did you just say that I've had you inside me?
Stop. Don't ever say that again. Don't ever say that again. I don't want you inside me.
Don't ever say that. Don't ever say that again. Don't ever, ever say I'm inside you again.
We can't spread anything. Is there any kind of press release that I need to approve or anything like that? I don't even think we can afford that, and I'm told they're free. So, no. And first of all, you've so far been just asking a series of questions, and I've indulged you, but let me get a little bit of stuff out.
I've seen you at your best.
If we're inside each other, then it is intimate. Yeah. And that's hard to do too. Think of the geometry of that one.
I'm not going to take away future. I'm just going to say past. Oh, past.
So we have to talk to the dinosaurs first and say, leave that guy alone over there.
If you go back there, you have to take that into account. Yes, I do. There's a good chance. I mean, if and I could see you being very irritating to a Brontosaurus. I could see a Brontosaurus being like, I just fucking hate that guy.
Oh, it's not. Now you're just saying. Of course, the Latin for lizard. You're just saying shit. It's not Brontosaurus.
Just talk over me. That's fine.
Say how you pronounce brontosaurus again. Brontosaurus. Okay. You need to be hit. I'm not going to say with steel rods because that's, but with a denser wood, like a wood, but it's a dense wood, like a mahogany. You need to be hit with mahogany. Okay. Because no one says that.
Even a brontosaurus, if it just heard that, would put both of its giant paws in front of its eyes and just be like, oh my God, what a dick. No, it's not. How do you say pterodactyl?
Why do you say these things like Dracula?
Well, you don't have to announce everything. It's the Conan Jordan Show. It's the second episode. This is where you and I talk. And people do all the time ask me, how's Jordan doing? I want more Conan Jordan. You know that our videos are a massive hit on YouTube, various other sundry places, the websites. People love them. They can't get enough. They want more. Well, now we're giving them more.
Go back to Making Love, Adding Nothing at All. Go visit the dinosaurs. That's my request. Go back and visit the dinosaurs and just sort of stand around and see what happens, okay? And if you get stomped or crushed, that's just what happens.
No, I'm an alumnus of Harvard University. Are we going to say it correctly or not?
Harvard University.
If you're going to say it, just say it.
Nope. I gave a great speech.
I also had a falcon on my shoulder. Yeah.
That's all I'm saying. Well, if an animal is someone who eats fast food, then call me an animal and call most Americans an animal. I love the United States of America. I really do love this country. And for you to attack it that way, I think, is not just scandalous, but treasonous.
This is insane.
You're whimpering in the corner eating Ritz. We're ending it here. You know what you've had? You've had a complete breakdown today. And I can tell always because you get a fiendish look on your eyes. Your eyes arch up. You start to smile. That's my face.
No, no, no, no, no.
And then you lost your mind. You started spiraling on the word cracker. And you lost it. You flamed out. And now a bunch of men are rushing up to you and pouring foam over you so that you don't burn to death. Jordan. This was a great episode. It was a great episode because you came out of the gate hot and then you ended up in this spectacular explosion. I feel sorry for you.
I feel sorry for anyone who's in your life. But I also love you. And when I say I love you, I'm lying. It's just not true. Anyway, this has been episode two of the Conan and Jordan show. I think one of the most fascinating shows in the history of any medium. It's unrehearsed. We never know what we're going to talk about. And we just play with this spinning top that is Jordan Schlansky.
And what better way to experience us than while you're driving around, maybe in your rental car or at home listening to Sirius XM. This is the way to do it. People listen to the Conan O'Brien channel. They want to hear this stuff, you know. So it's you and I together. How are you feeling about it?
It's just Stratocaster. It's not Stratocaster. We just said the same thing. Second of all, I did ask him. We talked about it as he was getting into his car because the magic moments for me aren't captured, okay? You greedily want me to spill that kind of stuff into a microphone. I walked Billy to his car. It was Acura and massive dent, the back bumper.
And I asked him that question and he told me the answer, but that's the kind of thing I can't share.
I asked him what I was interested in. And I also knew that he'd tell me when we walked him to his Acura and he did. So I was satisfied.
Wait a minute, the song St. Elmo's Fire? Okay. Do you like that song?
They were in their 20s. Don't anger me when people call people teens when they're 25, 26, sometimes some of them pushing 30. Emilio Estevez was 44 years old when he starred in that movie.
But I figured it out. I figured it out. Tell me the lyrics.
I can't conjure the song. I can't conjure the song. I can see a new horizon underneath the blazing sky. Hold on.
Everything on the Internet is a life well spent. Here we go. You got to get to the end. We're going to listen to this part first. Okay, this is, I remember this. The first note is up cut. Famous production error. I think the year was 1985. I'm in the theater.
What kind of polling did you do to determine the success of the first episode? I've looked at no data. I've talked to no one. I live pretty much a secluded, strange life. But I know deep in my heart that this thing's a smash hit. So much so that, look, we have our own sign now, the Conan and Jordan show. Now, I was under the impression that the previous recording session was an audition of sorts.
Settle down. You're kind of revving.
All right, we just got canceled. But they just let me know.
I'm going to ask you to do me a favor, Jordan. When I hold up my hand like this, you're going to have to stop talking. Because otherwise you just wash over me and you're a little out of control right now. We had a nice conversation going. And then you brought up this song, Man in Motion, the theme song for St. Elmo's Fire, which is a bullshit song.
You're saying that a great song has an inconsequential opening? That's not a great song. A great song, by definition, has a great beginning.
I forgot that the universal sign of good hearing is being able to determine and remember the lyrics to Man in Motion.
Hey, you think I'm an A-lister?
I can climb the highest mountain.
Okay, stop, because I don't care. Tell me what the last lyric... No, I'm not going to tell you.
He's a philanthropist, but he can't give his music away. Look at that face. Oh, man, you got served, owned. Jordan, you're a terrible person. And our time away from each other has been a salve for my tattered soul. We're together again because the public demands it. We have our own show. And you completely commandeered it right up top to make us listen to that piece of mid-80s crap.
What's the power balance on this show, if it is, in fact, ours? Well, let's take a look at the order of the names. The Conan and Jordan show.
Yeah, big Conan and then sort of little scripted Jordan. I think you understand what the power balance is here. You're here because I allow you to be here. You live because I allow you to live. And maybe you're just someone that I imagined and you think you have a life. But the minute I stop thinking about you, you'll disappear. Fascinating. So let's talk. Man in motion.
Oh, God, no. No, we use... every part of the Buffalo here. We can't waste anything. So no, that was not an audition. That was the first episode.
I do encourage the listeners to try and discern the last part of the song because that's an important use of everyone's time.
I think what people will take from this is. is a newfound hatred for you. They thought they hated you before, but now they're going to go look. Before it was, if I cross paths with Jordan, I'll smash his face. Now it's going to be, I've got to find out where that fucker is, and I need to take him out at the knees. That's what it's going to be now.
It'll be the first thing out of my mouth. Okay. Okay? I promise it. I'll write it on my hand. Yeah. All right? Swear to God. Go ahead. Usually it's how are you? Yeah. I like to try and ease into it. Small talk. Yeah, I understand. That makes people feel comfortable. Are you comfortable? Yeah. That's all. That's my technique. But as a robot, you would know that. You have your own techniques.
Jordan, this is what we have to do. We have to do a quick commercial. The sponsor now is Lady Crackers. Oh, yes. Why don't you just give an ad for Lady Crackers right now and just make it up as you go. Lady Crackers, Los Angeles, olive oil and sea salt.
Can I just confirm? Can I confirm? One second. Can I confirm? Frank, he had no idea what I was going to hand him. No idea. This is not written. There's no copy. There's no copy. This is absolute. What are you doing? How are you able to do that?
Did you say grapeseed?
Don't talk that way on this program. What are you talking about? That's awful.
Let's get back to, you know, the sponsor is going to want to hear their product name and a little more about the product rather than a list of every oil that exists. Yeah.
Would you like to taste one? Why don't you open it up and taste one? It's okay. Could you please? I typically try to avoid. Would you please? Yeah. It's okay. Would you please? Avoid. Please. Yeah.
I would tear that.
That's a fine pitch. I'm going to do you one better. Lady and Larder. I want a cracker at night, and I want one with a clean crunch.
Mmm.
That gives you that Lady and Larder crackle, the munch crunch that makes you happy a whole bunch. That's why I like Lady and Larder. Lady and Larder, tear that box open, rip them tabs, and slam that cracker down your puss. And remember, if any crumbs go astray, use your tongue. Get it outside your face and lick them up.
Nobody. Nobody has. I've run this up the flagpole. It's serious. And they said, we don't have a flagpole and we're not taking your call.
Keep that tongue outside your head. It's a good way to get those crumbs.
Lady and louder. Now with more of the good stuff that you love. Get it now! What do you think? Good answer? Well, you know, we have different approaches. Yeah. You talked in a very depressed way for a while and then said, seems like kind of a high sodium content.
It's the clean crunch that gives you a munch and I love it a bunch.
See the way it rhymes?
Yeah.
People love that in an ad. They're not going to remember your sodium content quip, but they're going to remember my- Do you have an idea for a jingle for this? Do you want to sing a little song?
All right, well, welcome to the Conan and Jordan show. This is our second episode. I have to be honest with you, Jordan, I didn't think we'd get to a second episode. Yeah. Because during the last one, I'm just being honest, I wanted to smash your face into powder. But... We made it. We're here. And this is by popular demand. People love the Conan and Jordan show.
Yeah, and I live with a leprechaun.
And I just ate a four-leaf clover for lunch.
Do you remember it?
30 years ago now.
That's good. Yeah, that is. That's very good.
There was an old man from Nantucket who wanted his young friend to suck it. He said, Guinness, I said, I didn't mean your head. And then the guy kicked the bucket. I just made that up.