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My thoughts are that... Well, I'd like to hear them.

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The end goal is a society where you don't have homelessness, you don't have impoverished hungry children, you don't have these grotesque levels of inequality, and you don't see the privatization of our National Health Service. The end goal is an international strategy which is designed towards peace and environmental sustainability, rather than more and more money being spent on weapons and war.

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And so I think we should look at what the political objectives are that we're trying to achieve. How that comes about, what the structure is, it's got to evolve. I could sit here and say, okay, I'm forming a party now. All join. And I'm not going to do that because that's not the way I believe politics should be. The successful political movements that have had a massive influence on

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on changes within their own society, have all been strongly rooted in communities and grown from that. Politics, to me, is about the inclusion of people in a popular way. And so it's not just about you and me having an economic chat with people. It's also about culture. It's also about music. It's about poetry. It's about art.

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It's about imagination, people's experiences, and an education system that is, in my view, more inclusive and less competitive. I think we need to rethink our approach in our society in so many ways.

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You're the one left in the kitchen with some cold soft drink while the rest of them are having fun. Is that it?

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I always do enjoy what I do and I enjoy life as well because I do what I want to do, which is to represent my area and work with people and take up and support the causes that I do. But I'm depressed and angry when I turn on the television and I just see thousands of lives being lost in wars in Ukraine, in Gaza, in Lebanon, and so on. Come on, guys, we can do the world better than this.

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Over 50 years. I joined when I was 16. Wow.

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And we also went to the Shepton Mallet Folk Festival in 1970.

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Michael Evis was there as well. And he thought this is a great idea. So he set up Glastonbury.

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Well, I had very mixed feelings about it, the whole thing, obviously. One is that I was delighted to see the end of the Tory government. And I was pleased, delighted to be elected as an independent member for Islington North. which was, to me, an enormous honour to be re-elected by the people that have been elected me 10 times before. So that was amazing.

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And I was just sadly disappointed at the paucity of promise in the Labour manifesto. No real change in any international strategy and fundamentally accepting very orthodox economic theories for the future.

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I fear it's going to be an attack on benefits. And we've seen a bit of a whiff of this with the promotion of the obesity vaccination to those people who are not in work. because of their levels of health problems or obesity. This is sort of headline grabbing, not very well thought out policies. So I look forward to listening very carefully to the budget next week.

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But I hope, and I've signed the letter in support of it, there's going to be a wealth tax included in that. And we've got a surprising number of of people of most parties now supporting the principle of a wealth tax on those with disposable wealth of over £10 million.

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So it's not going to affect you or me, or I suspect anybody watching this particular programme, but would bring in quite a lot of money that could be spent on the things that we actually need to spend on health, education, housing and environment.

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Well, I was accused of having an over-detailed plan because we had two very long manifestos. And when we were writing them, I remember saying to my team, I was becoming slightly concerned that they were very long. And I said, look, Let's be careful. If we put out something that's overlong, it'll simply not be understood or would be ignored.

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But they said, no, no, we've got to go into the campaign and go into an election saying exactly what we will do. So we did produce these very substantial, very detailed manifestos. And you know what? It's the largest number of accesses online of any manifesto ever was made in the 2017 election.

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manifesto and we had to reprint it after the election because there was still demand for it because it set out in quite a lot of detail a vision of how you deal with industrial, social, environmental, international issues that this country And I think the Labour manifesto in the last election was a bit thin on detail.

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And so to suddenly announce that there was £22 billion nobody knew about, well, I find that slightly odd. Because, yes, I'm sure that the outgoing Conservative government wanted to hide things. And they did appear to make, in the six months before the election, a number of unfunded spending announcements.

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But the idea that it was so large that now affects everything the government does, I think, is an odd way of doing things. It's allowing all your politics to be decided by the outgoing government. Surely we need a bit of vision.

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Well, I was proud of the work that was put into it and the detail that was put into it and the sense of vision that was there. It did mean that if there were undecided voters, if you had the resources to do it, you could explain to them exactly what you were proposing to do, which is what we attempted to do. But remember, in that campaign,

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We started the campaign from a very low point and Theresa May called the election because she thought it would be a walkover for her. We started on 24% and finished on 41%, all built up during the campaign with that manifesto. So I'm proud of what we did.

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I've never been called a left-wing grandee before. I'm not sure about this. I'm not sure about your choice of language.

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It doesn't sound terribly democratic. It sounds like a sort of aristocratic entitlement.

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Let's check the collected works on that and see where it comes out. What it's about is alternative political voices around the country. I stood as an independent and I stood on the issues that we've talked about and put them in both an election address and I produced a manifesto for my own constituency, online version of it. Others stood as independents.

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My good friend Andrew Feinstein, for example, stood in a neighboring constituency. And we didn't really liaise very much before the election on what we're going to say, but we ended up saying roughly the same thing about housing. social justice, wages, full employment, and environment and sustainability.

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And then in many other parts of the countries, independents were saying roughly that, such as Faisal Shaheen in Chingford, and the campaigns that were run by those that were successful, in Ilford. And so after the election, I thought it was important that we come together. And there was a discussion which was reported in rather exaggerated form in the Guardian after it happened.

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But it is about voices coming together. But I don't want to see some sort of top-down political party formed. I think what's more important is grassroots democracy. And grassroots democracy means that you form local forums where people come along and express their views, some of which will agree with each other, some might not. But those forums are going to deal with local issues.

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And we've held the first in my constituency last month. Now, that sort of thing is happening all over. I'm very confident that over the next few months, a lot of groups are going to come together from all over the country and an alternative voice will increasingly be heard, I hope, in a very unified kind of way.

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So the politics of the future have got to be on demand for social justice, but it's got to be based in communities of the grassroots. I think we've had enough of manipulative politics of centralised parties.

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or political force. There's a lot of areas it could go into. That, I would hope, is where we end up with a sort of a voice around the country offering a political alternative. Because if you look at the economics of what's happening now in Britain, in most European countries, and to some extent in the USA, are levels of austerity, though nobody uses the word austerity anymore.

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But in reality, it is about cutting public spending. It is about not increasing taxation on the very richest. It's about not tackling the grotesque levels of economic inequality within our society, some of which were products of profiteering during COVID. And I think there needs to be a voice that comes together. So I'm also working with various left groupings across Europe.