Jenner Furst
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The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
That doing this dangerous research could cause a pandemic, but that it was a risk worth taking because we would be prepared for that pandemic.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Yeah. And therein lies the next sort of issue is that I think clinicians, doctors who treat people, folks that are pragmatic, will take any remedy or any countermeasure that's effective to help their patients and would...
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Humane, any way to stop suffering, anything, you know?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And I think that Fauci represents sort of almost this paternal, grandfather-like... self-proclaimed because no one asked for this, whose job felt less about protecting people or developing things that could help all sorts of people and more about protecting carrying a line on what was important in science and digesting science for people in a way that was, if you look back, very infantilizing.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
You know, well, you know, this is how this works and that's how this works. And if you listen to him at a podium, he has an incredible bedside manner. but he's failing to tell you every conflicting piece of evidence. He's failing to tell you every, you know, piece of gray. It's very black and white. And he'd been doing that for years. And I think the vaccine work, yeah, right.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Right. And so he was, he's not a virologist. He's an immunologist. And really, in many ways, his focus is vaccinology. And so, there are such thing as virologists, epidemiologists, and all those people were supported by his funding, his research, but Fauci appeared to have one goal and one solution for problems, which was to develop vaccines for them.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Yeah. And I'd lived in New York for two decades by that point. And I don't think a lot of people in New York were thanking Dr. Fauci. I don't think the sanitation workers were thanking Dr. Fauci. Exactly. The nurses weren't thanking Dr. Fauci. I mean, it's a farce. It's an illusion. The truth is far from that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And I think, like many doctors and scientists would agree, Vaccines are very important. In fact, there could be a pandemic coming any day now that a vaccine may be the only thing to stop it. And so much damage—this is very ironic—so much damage was done by Fauci and others to the concept of vaccines that
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
um it could be a real tragedy it could be a real tragedy when we actually need a vaccine and people are so distrustful of public health and i think that when you have very powerful people who have been in dc for decades they live in a bubble where they forget what the rest of the world is doing the way the rest of the world think and for some reason
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
In their calculus, in their head, Fauci and others thought that this was the way to talk to people. These were the things to do. And maybe they didn't understand the catastrophic risk.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Sure. I mean, I think that if we looked at every other part of our government, our society, that we can see the influence of money and, you know, companies. And sadly, public health is no different than any other industry, any other industry. part of our government. They lobby. They spend a lot of money. The pharmaceutical industry spends a lot of money.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
There's a lot of money to be made on sick people. And sadly, folks in positions of, you know, that are making policy for America, which in many ways leads the world in a lot of this stuff, is very influential. those folks are sometimes compromised.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And I think that what you brought up about vaccines, you can see the same thing across the rest of the pharmaceutical industry, that many times there's a cheap and effective cure for something that costs $2 and it's not going to get promoted and it's not going to get talked about because a new drug
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
has to be developed and a new treatment has to be developed and instead of focusing on a ton of different things that could have stopped people from dying let's just take the research aside let's just take the part that america could be responsible for the pandemic in the first place and that absolutely tragic crime.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
The way that the public health establishment, in many ways run by Anthony Fauci, and I can explain that a little bit more, had one focus, and that was to develop a vaccine. And that people like Bob Redfield would tell you that it wasn't even the vaccine that could be the safest, it wasn't the vaccine that could be the most reliable, it was the vaccine that was gonna be an mRNA vaccine.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And that really was the core of influence inside Warp Speed. It was Moderna and Pfizer, and they got the first bite of the apple. And J&J, of course, and AstraZeneca, they also were part of it. But this mRNA technology, Fauci had been talking about it for years. And it initially was for cancer. It didn't work.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And they had shifted about four or five years before the pandemic into developing a pan-coronavirus, pan-influenza vaccine. And a lot of that research was happening in places like Wuhan.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And so it was, you know, almost a reverse engineered scenario where the number one cure for this virus was going to be an mRNA vaccine, despite it, you know, the science or, you know, regardless of whatever the testing or the safety, that's what had to happen.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
It's very risky, and it's also a miracle of science, right? It's that we can teach our bodies how to fight these things and this kind of, you know, taking vaccine technology to the next level, you know?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And we're not that intelligent as a life force. I mean, we use about 10% of our brains. So to think that we could manage the fallout or the blowback in species that are a billion years old, I think is extremely pompous and insane of humans to think that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And that's what scientists also believed who didn't get the airtime and who, many of them, their careers suffered when they challenged Fauci on this premise. that this gain of function work, you know, forget about the vaccines, which are the flip side, just the gain of function work alone is playing master of the universe.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
It did. Yeah. And that's the scary thing is that it did. And
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
We can say now that there's enough data on the table to say now that the mRNA vaccines changed people's DNA. And even worse, there was— Okay, so what are the—oh, let's just stop right there.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Well, it's interesting that we're coming to this four or five years later. I think if you look at a pattern of horrible scientific accidents and catastrophes, bad policy, bad products, it takes usually a decade, 20 years, 50 years. You'll see in the film, it's interesting you brought up Salk. Salk had a competitor. That was the oral polio vaccine.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And they were both racing to complete trials at the same time. And there's data that suggests that that scientist, Hilary Kroposky, who was in the Belgian Congo, was using chimpanzee kidneys to propagate his polio vaccine against the concerns of a lot of scientists who worried that viruses could go from chimpanzees to humans really easily. We have very similar DNA.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
and he did those trials in uh 57 to 59 and the first articulated outbreak of hiv is in 1959 in the same city that he did those trials and therein lies the most complex hard to fathom you know, conundrum, right? You have people trying to save the world, racing to save the world, trying to cure polio, and they unintentionally cause another pandemic, potentially.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And fast forward 75 years, and it happened again. And... That is really what this story is about. I mean, you can't play God with this stuff. I mean, these things are, there's no way to model all the blowback.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
You can't, and that when you layer in arrogance and you layer in unchecked power and you layer in lack of transparency and oversight, the amount of damage that can be done from this work is exponential. It's exponential at that point.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
you know when you have people who haven't been challenged for 20 years on their decisions and who have amassed so much power and just put yes men around them that's what the niaid was that's what the nih was you got to remember out of anyone in hhs the overarching organization fauci was the most senior person in that entire organization and in many ways
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
I think he was seen as the most powerful person in that organization. And so if you look at the story of COVID, you've got the CDC director, Bob Redfield, who's known Fauci since the AIDS pandemic. And he is completely and totally marginalized and iced out of the conversation. And the entire time when Fauci is out in public, he's saying, I'm just following the guidance of the CDC.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And anyone who had inside knowledge knew that Anthony Fauci was the one who had the most influence on that guidance and that the CDC director wasn't even in the room. And if you understand American bureaucracy, you know how these alphabet agencies work. And it was almost strategic that his title was in such a buried organization in the middle of the stack. Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
He'd have a lot more scrutiny if he was the head of HHS. But for 50 years, he's had a title in a buried alphabet organization institute within HHS under the NIH. After Cheney gave Fauci these resources, it was understood in those institutes that Anthony Fauci was the most powerful person in the NIH. He had a direct line to the White House. He had security clearance. He had a line to Congress.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Right.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
The NIH director wasn't doing anything like that. The HHS director wasn't doing anything like that. Fast forward to COVID, the HHS director came in with the administration, former pharmaceutical executive Alex Azar worked for Eli Lilly. And you've got Bob Redfield, who's got a lot of integrity and believed that there was a lab leak.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
I'm nowhere, honestly. I'm trying to use my brain about what happened. Okay, good. And I don't think I can... I think I've lost confidence in all political tropes about this topic. And it really... helped me see what was happening before with every other topic, because I consider myself a cynical person. I've been investigating these type of scandals and crimes for a long time.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And within weeks of having conversations directly with Fauci about that, he found himself locked out of the room. And it's very convenient that Fauci appear to be this little old man who is all about helping people, and he's a scientist and science first, and he's a doctor even. He never really cared for patients.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
We saw in Congress one of the questions that was directed at him during his hearing was, you know, did you treat any patients during COVID? Were you there? Did you intubate people? Did you watch them die? Of course you didn't. And the truth about Anthony Fauci is a lot harder to digest. And I think a lot of people were onto it for years, but half the country believes he's a hero still.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
How did that happen?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
So there's two narratives. There's the narrative that we've been given for the last four years, and there's the actual fact pattern and what is the closest to the truth that we currently have. And if you take it chronologically and you ignore the media that came out,
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
that announced the pandemic was happening and that the source was a wet market, and you just look at the facts that even existed on American intelligence servers at the time, that there is more than enough proof and evidence to show that some sort of incident happened at the Wuhan lab, in either August or September. There was a push to redo the HVAC system in the lab.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
There was a transition from civilian to military control of the lab. They erased their entire database of coronavirus samples of all their different collections of different coronaviruses.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
all happening in sequence, all in the early fall, late summer of 2019. And then in October of 2019, there is a massive Olympic-style event in Wuhan where teams from around the world, from armed forces from around the world, like in America, our Navy, our Army, the Marines sent teams to Wuhan to compete. And this was an event that had been scheduled for years.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
It was a diplomatic event using sports and athleticism to bring different countries together. And at that point, Wuhan was partially shut down, that there is satellite photos of overcrowded hospitals, that there were drills happening at the airport that were pandemic preparedness drills
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And that they were called drills, but really they were, I think, active response to an actual pandemic outbreak, an actual leak of a virus. And this intelligence all existed before the World Military Games, and before we sent our armed forces to compete in this event and we allowed our allies to send their teams to compete in this event.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And that event in October of 2019 was the original Super Spreader. And what people I think don't know about COVID, but that the researchers knew about COVID was that it was incredibly contagious and that it has up to a five-day dormancy period. And on top of that, a lot of people are asymptomatic.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
So you could have an event like the World Military Games and knowing what we know about this virus now, by the time the virus was reported, The virus had likely spread around the world multiple times. And I know we all have friends who are like, well, I was sick in January and I was sicker than I've ever been.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
People say they were sick like that in October in places like Washington in November, Washington State.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And so that narrative checks out. And all that happens after that, leading up to the point where basically the emergency room chaos of Wuhan leaks, there's a doctor who posts some stuff on WeChat. And he was immediately arrested and told to erase all of his stuff off of social media because this is the way that the Chinese government was trying to contain the story.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
COVID was about 10 times or 100 times bigger than any fraud or crime I've ever investigated. And I think politics really was key to the manipulation, you know, dividing people. And I just see it in everything now.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And then when it became known that he was a doctor who was trying to help people, the Chinese ended up giving him an award. And a month later, he died. And there are a lot of other suspicious deaths in China. Of COVID. Yeah. And so... You know, I hope I'm explaining this in a way that's digestible.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
I find that when you look this in the face and you really see it, you have to remember that the rest of the world hasn't had that privilege or opportunity to understand how damning the evidence is and how ugly the story is and how many pieces of evidence that have existed for years now.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
I mean, what drove me to make this film, I think, and fall into it was, okay, I could buy that Anthony Fauci is not honest about everything. I could buy that the United States government does nefarious things and potentially was funding research they shouldn't have been funding.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
I could buy that the pharmaceutical industry would want to cover up a story like that because, after all, they were going to make billions of dollars from the countermeasure of the vaccine.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
What struck me the most was me as a conscious sort of anti-corruption, looks, reads between the lines, doesn't trust media sources, had existed in this bubble where even I was not aware that there was a grant proposal to do this work two years before the pandemic happened and that it had been reported on for two years. And I didn't even know it existed. Yes.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And that was the most horrifying thing for me, was that I was just another sucker. You know, I'm an educated, investigative reporter of sorts who, you know, doesn't, like I said, trust anything. I want to dig deeper. I want to go and see. And then I had lived in an algorithm that completely ignored this fact. And it was horrifying to me.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And I learned that papers that I have trusted my whole life, like the New York Times and the Washington Post, were in some ways the largest distributor of state-sponsored propaganda in the country. And that they were republishing studies that had no scientific merit and putting them on the front page, some of them before they even hit peer review. Who was feeding them those stories?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And then when a writer wants to write about something that isn't a bat, a pangolin, or a raccoon dog, and that is more related to an apparent cover-up and a lab leak, espionage, a bunch of things that are extremely newsworthy. Those writers were told they couldn't by their editors. But here I am, just a civilian like everybody else, believing that the news I'm getting is the news.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And I want to give credit to people on the right who have broken with the mainstream media and live in a world where they feel like they need to question everything now. I felt I already lived in that world. And here I was completely seduced by mistruths, misinformation, propaganda for years.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Yeah, I think that the folks who are in positions of enormous power, power that I think is greater than nation states, really. It's transnational global power, corporate power. Yes. I think that they benefit greatly from... the population being divided and fighting amongst themselves about issues that are not even the truth. And in this case, 99% of people on the planet were abused.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Yeah, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry for your editor.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Oh, okay.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Well, you know, we don't.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
There's a lot of indications, but I'm going to reveal something that other scientists also believe that is a lot scarier. And I think a lot more scary for folks that protested the vaccine, didn't put it in their body and think that they're better off. The virus does things like this to you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And everyone on the planet has gotten the virus multiple times. And that the virus likely has fragments from HIV in it. It has fragments from other viruses. It creates neurological damage. It creates damage in your heart, liver. Yeah, absolutely. People who still have long COVID right now. And long COVID is not some phenomenon that's, you know, obscure.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
They were poisoned. Close to 20 million of them were killed. And in that context, they all lost. And a very small, small portion of people on this planet, you know, in the thousands died. benefited greatly, even though they were responsible to some extent for this crime.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
It's directly tied to the synthetic nature of the virus.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
yeah it was different and you know what's interesting is i was i got the first two shots and after that i was like this is you know i'm not boosting i'm not doing it this has gone too far now and i believed that i was an asymptomatic person uh and that i wasn't really going to get covet in the first place i was going to be asymptomatic and you know, a lot of people are asymptomatic.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And what's so troubling about the virus is it has such different effects for different people. And so, for the most part, it strikes the elderly, the immunocompromised. But you could have a genetic composition that makes you die from lung complications and appear to be a healthy person. You could have a genetic complication that makes you die of a sudden heart attack.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And even worse, you could have a genetic composition that now two years later, you're learning that you have a rapid stage three or four cancer. And I say that because everyone can assume or accept that the vaccine could cause that problem. but we need to open up the idea that the virus itself can cause those problems. That is how ugly this virus is.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And the type of brain fog, complicity, you know, we all got a hit over the head with this virus. I don't know if you remember when you got it, I experienced fatigue and brain fog like I've never experienced in my life. And there's certain people who now have- It sapped your life force, your will to live.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
That's impressive. I wish I had whatever you're eating for breakfast. Nicotine. Yeah, good.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Yeah. When I got it for the first time after being vaccinated, I said, this feels completely different than any other virus I've ever had. I don't get sick much. I get sick like once every two years. And I was very sick. And then in the middle of the night, I started having trouble breathing. And I was like, wow, this is scary. Yeah. And this was all before I made the film.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
This was before I got the call to if I was interested in investigating Fauci. So within a couple months, you know, before making this film, I had experienced COVID and really was the sickest I'd ever been from the virus. And I went and I was scared. So I got Paxlovid. And I ended up getting better and then getting sick again about two weeks later. And it didn't really feel like a great remedy.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And so it's insane to think that for the people who were responsible for this, that it was a win-win scenario for them, while the rest of the planet was clearly a lose-lose scenario. There's nothing political about that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
It felt more almost psychological. Yes. That it's going to help me. And, you know, my symptoms were reduced. But then I got sick again. And then something crazy happened. I'm a healthy 40-year-old man. Right. And I don't have any other medical complications. And I have, as I said, a very strong immune system. I only get sick rarely, once every couple of years.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
I got shingles right after I had COVID and took Paxlovid. And I was like, how is this possible? I mean, yeah, stress, all these other things, but I don't fit the sort of bill for that.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
No. No. And I found out that two of my cousins who are the same age as me had just gotten COVID and had gotten shingles. And I went online and I read that a lot of young people who get COVID are getting shingles after they get COVID. And I'm sure people listening to this are going to say, yeah, me too. That's crazy. It's not a coincidence.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
This virus directly targets your immune system and does things that are hard to even compute. I mean, some of them are so varied in people, they're as varied as our DNA. And I'd had that experience right before making the movie, so I was very, I think, open-minded to the idea that everything I was told was not necessarily the truth.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Yeah, and I think if the Chinese were actively constructing a bioweapon, that you would look at America's general health condition and that this virus disproportionately affects people with diabetes, people with heart issues. We live on a very poor diet here in the United States. We're one of the richest, if not the richest country in the world, and the quality of food we're eating is
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
It's the opposite of what we should be eating. We're eating poison every day, and that's effectively permitted and lobbied for, and we don't regulate it. And so if you look at that from an outside looking in and know that we're in such poor health, it would make sense to make a virus that targets a certain genetic composition. Sure. And in fact, this was documented.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
There was intelligence briefs that came out after the State Department report a year after the pandemic. And those intelligence reports show years of knowledge about the Chinese bioweapons program. And the question is, how did we develop years of knowledge about the Chinese bioweapons program?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Because we were effectively funding and supplying the Chinese bioweapons program with our most talented scientists who were giving them technologies they didn't already have. And the exchange was so that we could spy on them. And if that isn't a completely insane proposition, I don't know what is.
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Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
And we knew at that point, and maybe what caused such panic and alarm was that the Chinese were experimenting with things that were... very, very questionable and dangerous. They had genetically engineered a human embryo so that the child was born immune to smallpox and polio, and I believe HIV, and that there were programs in place to understand the Chinese genome as it pertained to viruses to...
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I think that I want to give you an easy answer. Yes. But I don't think we're ever going to know exactly the moment that this virus emerged from a lab. But we do know that the virus did not emerge from the wet market in Wuhan and that it didn't emerge in December. It likely emerged in August. and that it was the product of research that was funded by the United States.
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Protect against viruses that were targeting the Chinese genome and of course if you look at the flip side of that would be to make viruses that do not target the Chinese genome and I want to remind people makes it easier when you have an ethno stage sure it does and and You know, I think we have to remember that we are the frontrunner of those technologies. So whatever the Chinese are doing is
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They're likely sifting that technology from us. And the United States is not off the hook in crazy research. And Anthony Fauci was peddled to the metal on this stuff for two decades.
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There are some breaks right now that are happening, and I think right when the new administration gets in and a lot of folks who are very concerned with this issue and passionate about exposing the truth, we're going to know a lot more really quickly. But there's some really concerning stuff that was just released that
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DOD officials had a briefing about the potential accident and the virus in October of 2019. So previously, the intelligence was labeled sort of unanalyzed, that it was just on a server and we didn't see it, which of course is extremely suspicious. I mean, we can... see how many nose hairs someone has from a satellite at this point.
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I mean, the idea that we wouldn't be able to sift one of the largest, most troubling signals that you could ever see on an intelligence server and have an alert set up for it just is, it's illogical. It doesn't make any sense. But we now know that they actually did meet and they did discuss this incident. And we also know that the DOD was very privy to a proposal to create this virus.
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It was called the Diffuse Proposal. It was submitted in 2018. It's taken four years for us to learn that 15 other U.S. agencies saw that proposal before the pandemic. Think about that.
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It does. And then the part that is also very troubling that people whose anonymity I should keep, who have security clearance, and who did not disclose this to me in a very explicit way, but who signaled that they believe this to be the case, is that American scientists using American research dollars at American institutions and with the federal government
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created a proposal partnering with a Chinese scientist at the Wuhan lab, Shijing Li, who was also a Chinese military scientist.
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It was a military lab, and that many of the scientists even who were coming to the United States had dual affiliation with the military program. And it is believed now that the Chinese funded the diffuse proposal. What would stop them from funding the proposal? We gave them all the technology. We outlined what we were looking to do.
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Now, if you read that proposal cover to cover, you'd have to be really, I think, scientifically knowledgeable and astute to understand what they were trying to do. But the reality is what they were trying to do didn't make any sense in this proposal. It was already subterfuge. They were trying to go and take a virus that had never been seen before.
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from the jungle, from areas like Yunnan province where these viruses can jump out of nature and cross over to humans, take them into the lab and put a fern cleavage site into the spike protein and play with this part of the virus called DC sign or this pathway, which targets our immune cells and tells us not to fight the virus until it reaches our lymph nodes and that we're being infected directly in our immune system.
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And the proposal says how to do all of this. And the purpose of the proposal apparently is to see what the virus will do and that the thing that the takeaway at the end of the proposal is that they want to make a bat vaccine and go and they want to spray it in a cave so that a virus like this doesn't come out of nature.
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And the writing was on the wall that this research could have caused a pandemic for five years at least. And there were regulations in place not to fund this research that Fauci and others violated to fund this research.
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And so anyone who's really looking critically, knowing what we know now, that part seems like bullshit. and that the real purpose was to create a bioweapon that was very effective or to at least continue research on the spike protein and aspects of the spike protein that hadn't been resolved yet. And when I say that is that the NIAID and Fauci
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was funding research about furrin cleavage sites and the spike protein because all of it was relevant to the mRNA vaccine because it was the part that they hadn't really figured out yet. The furrin cleavage site causes this toxic reaction, and there was research into it, and Ralph Baric had done research into it. This is stuff that predates the pandemic by years. And so...
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This proposal, in many ways, was probably a continuation of that type of work, but the proposal was also a cookbook on how to make a really dangerous coronavirus, one that would be devilish and one that would be worse than any that had ever been seen. And the logic, I guess, is we gotta know what's coming and prepare for it. The irony is we weren't that prepared, and a lot of people died.
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And the proposal itself says that effective countermeasures for a virus like this are currently chloroquine and remdesivir.
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Yes, the proposal in 2018 acknowledges chloroquine as an effective method for treating this type of coronavirus. And so you have all these different reasons why this proposal does not see the light of day for years. And thank God for a Marine in DARPA who finds it on an,
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area of that server that is not classified, which makes one believe that someone in the classified area of that program wanted this to be exposed. And if Lieutenant Colonel Joseph Murphy did not expose this to the public, we may have never found out that this proposal existed. Mind you, 15 US agencies saw the proposal and it was pitched to them two years before the pandemic happened.
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So in that context, whether it got on someone's sleeve on their way to lunch or whether it was released intentionally, Everything we know about this virus has been a lie.
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Yeah, I think it's a head scratcher, right? But if you follow the money, this was the largest transfer of wealth in modern history. There was a moment in the pandemic when literally billions of dollars a second were moving from the poor to the rich. And anyone under a certain income bracket, no matter how you cut it, they lost. Yeah, sure. PPP loans. Do you own a house? I did at the time, yeah.
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No.
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In ways that we don't connect as fluidly as we should.
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So there is a nexus of tech companies... Virus research, pharmaceutical companies- Biotech, we call it. Biotech, but even straight tech, right? Metabiota is also owned by Google, okay? And if you are going to have, say, an effective bioweapons attack, you're going to need to control information.
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And what I think a lot of people don't understand is the biggest client of all of these tech companies is the United States. Always, yeah. So before you see the announcement about the microchip or the new development, the U.S. government has likely already purchased $5, $10 billion worth of the technology and had it a year before. And you don't know about that. And...
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There's privileges that come with that, obviously, because you can leverage, the government can leverage tech companies, as we saw with COVID, and can access data, you know, and this is carryover from 9-11, you know, the Patriot Act alive and well, you know, tech companies at that point, I think were primitive compared to what they are now.
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I mean, I don't even think in 2001, we understood how online we would be living our life, but COVID magnified that by 10%. I didn't even know what Zoom was before COVID. I mean, Skype was a thing and it was like, why this is, okay, FaceTiming, like, sure. But like our entire society moved to a remote existence. So that benefited the companies that created those technologies.
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I mean, Zoom stock went through the roof. It benefited all this entire ecosystem of data, and it also really benefited the intelligence community and others who could sift data that they weren't privy to. You and I are no longer having a conversation at a coffee shop. We're having one on Zoom. And, you know, that's one kind of gain, small, compared to the other gains.
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Let's just look at the pharmaceutical companies. Over $120 billion between all of them in the first couple years of the vaccines going public. And the stock market... You know, it was a perfect example of the elite, which I think Fauci really represents. And that is very common in D.C. It doesn't matter what party. People like yourself who know D.C.
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know that when you make it to D.C., it's a party. And the people back home aren't invited. It's not about you being a Democrat. It's not about you being a Republican. D.C. is an insular system and that it is an elite system and that the most and, you know, deep pocketed lobbyists.
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And people trying to influence policy, forces from outside the country having offices there, and of course, America's largest corporations engaging in whatever they can to have the law favor their interests. That doesn't favor any constituents. That doesn't have anything to do with what people voted on. And everybody's very collegial with each other.
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Yeah, it's an interesting story. It's really what you'll see in the film is that on the surface, you have this scandal with COVID, you have this virus that doesn't appear to be natural, and you have a cover-up, clearly. I mean, if we can't prove the moment the virus leaked or the exact origin, we can prove that there was a cover-up. There's more than enough evidence to do that right now.
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You know, there's a lot of mudslinging on social media, and there's a lot of mudslinging on TV. But in the halls of Congress, everybody's very collegial with each other. Everyone knows the game that's being played.
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And I think that it's an illusion in the truth of what's actually happening most of the time is policies and actions that hurt the poor, that weaken the middle class, and that ingratiate and further the wealth of the wealthy. And maybe that's my progressive, left-leaning politics coming through. I don't consider myself a political being anymore. I think politics itself is sinister.
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I don't think you can be a politician in America and not be compromised in some way because at some point, you've had to ignore a truth in order to promote yourself to get to the position you're in. But that's the system we created. And COVID was a microcosm of every weakness that already existed in that system.
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And so you have the worst event that ever happened, yet our stock market was on a sugar high for years. People got rich during COVID just from their stock positions. Well, who has stock positions? Not the guy working at the sanitation, you know, not the teacher, right? It was great for wealthy people who, oh my God, my kids can come with me on vacation.
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I can just take my work call from a golf course and the nannies are covering it. If you lived in East Baltimore and you were African-American and you were in a school district that was struggling, you didn't even log on for two years. We lost a whole generation of kids to remote learning. The schools should have never been closed. And yet...
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You brought up all these places in the country that had thank you, Dr. Fauci signs. Well, what do they all have in common? These are upper middle class parts of the country. Poor people did not get anything from COVID. And if they continue to wave the flag of who they believe their political hero is, guess what? There's no politician who's really doing much for the poor.
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There's some talking about doing stuff for the poor. But what actually trickles down to the poor is very, very small. And they are getting more and more disenfranchised. And when you talked about reorganizing society, that was one of the biggest takeaways. They are more and more disempowered now, the poor of America, than they've ever been.
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It's working, right? It's working. Okay. Media went up. Tech went up. Yep. Stock market itself went up. You got an election with an incredible turnout.
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Right? I mean, what's better to get people to come to the polls than racism, a vaccine they shouldn't be taking, some kind of regime change that's happening illegitimately? I mean, we have to remember that if you really take a bird's eye view of the system, it benefits both parties. It's not simply like the Republicans go and do a strategy that divides people and it just benefits Republicans.
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It's this is a self-affirming loop.
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It hurts both sides, too.
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This isn't new. This is Bacon's Rebellion. This happened at the end of the 1700s. When black and white slaves united and took over Charlestown, Virginia, okay, because the British were giving them too much taxes. Right. and they wanted more protection against Native Americans. It's a very ugly story.
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But the story didn't start with COVID. The story started almost 20 years ago. The story started really after 9-11. And you have a country that's reeling from a terrorist attack, and then the anthrax attacks happen. And Anthony Fauci raises his hand to be the point person for biodefense research.
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They successfully took over a colony for two years, and the plantation class looked at that and said, we have a serious problem right here. Because if they realize who the real enemy is and who's getting rich off their backs...
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we're we're fucked and the whole concept of chattel slavery and three-fifths of a man and white people being better than black people was perfected at that moment because it's incredibly effective at dividing the poor right down the middle and look at when martin luther king got assassinated he was at the point where he was focusing on wealth disparity and programs for the poor that's when he got killed not when he said that we're all created equal
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Fauci believed that whatever it is you tell the public, it should be simple and there should be no room for confusion about the mandate you're giving. What that leads to is the type of behavior where you're for something one day, you're against it the next day. You don't have conclusive science on boosters for children. In fact, there's no science for boosters to children.
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They should have never been recommended. And yet they decided to augment that data and just make it simple for people.
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i mean this is giving them the benefit of the doubt and not assuming that there is a more nefarious reason why these policies existed that were all about ultra vaccinating people constantly you got to remember these are not vaccines they don't stop the spread of a virus these are flu shots and flu shots actually are way more profitable than vaccines in fact how many times you get a polio vaccine in your life you get it once
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okay go up from there you know you get a tetanus shot every couple years when you step on a rusty nail flu shots are marketed for you to get every year and they're marketed in a way that you should get them when you're healthy it's not just elderly people well covid is even better right now there's a scary virus that came out of nature that keeps morphing you know and and you know the first message is this is going to stop the spread
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This is going to release the pressure and let us go back to our lives. That was a lie. And it was also a lie that we should have been locked down in the first place and that our schools should have been closed in the first place. That was a lie. So when society is at the brink. And everybody is going insane in their homes and can't get back to work, can't go to a bar, can't go to a baseball game.
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Everything about American society has shut down. The amount of leverage you have to sell a solution that is completely black and white, that this is going to do it, this is going to bring us back, and anyone who doesn't do it is the enemy. You know, that is, of course, really effective. There couldn't be anything further from the truth. It didn't stop the spread.
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And all of a sudden, billions of dollars go to his department and really out of the supervision of the Pentagon and other areas of the government that had regulated it. And for the last 20 years, this has been a debate. And the sort of coverage that was happening during the pandemic –
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It doesn't stop you from getting COVID. It doesn't stop a lot of things. In fact, it itself makes you sick. Of course, and did. In and of itself makes you sick.
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I mean, let's take masking in children. Children don't really get sick from COVID. Sure, they spread COVID. But let's be honest about what COVID is. It's the second most infectious virus in history. Everybody gets COVID. Some people get sick. Some people don't get sick. Some people get really sick. Some people get moderately sick. If you have a comorbidity or you're elderly, you could die.
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Our public health policy was about protecting a small portion of the population that was at risk of death. A small population. If we're gonna be honest about that, that made no sense, right? So what makes more sense is to say, grandma can't get this virus. So we gotta protect grandma and my son who's got cancer or my aunt who's got diabetes.
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We gotta make sure that they have safe places to go and that they're contained and this vaccine should be available for them. Anything, trial should be available because they're at risk of dying from this really scary virus. That's assuming that you don't know anything about the virus already. That's a big assumption. Let's go back to the news coverage, right? How many times did we hear...
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We don't know what this is. We don't know what it does. You know, policies to wash surfaces and wash your fruit in the sink, you know, when that had nothing to do with the way that this virus spreads.
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Because to admit that you know what this virus does is to admit that you'd been funding it for years and that you know what the fern cleavage site is and that you know even the way that HIV viruses interact with coronaviruses because Fauci funded a study by the same scientists who were implicated in the COVID disaster to experiment with coronaviruses as an HIV vaccine in 2014.
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So this is a Pandora's box. You open it up, just a crack, and it blows open and all hell breaks loose. So for almost a year, lies were told about this virus, not just where it came from, but how to treat it, how it was spread, If we were honest about lab engineering, we would have been able to stop the spread in the way that it mattered the most.
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And the truth is that fusion inhibitors and other simple, cheap drugs are probably more effective for the majority of people than a vaccine is. Addressing the virus and stopping it from doing a lot of harm in your body, stopping it from spreading in your body after you've already gotten it, things like ivermectin we understand now, chloroquine, these type of therapies were...
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really thrived on the idea that this came out of nowhere and it's a natural disaster and we all need to band together and we don't know much about what it is and we just need to be patient with the government, patient with the science, patient with the medicine. It was the opposite. We knew all about this virus. It had been researched for close to a decade.
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Are arguably just as successful as a vaccine. The problem is you can't get an emergency use authorization for a vaccine if there's another useful countermeasure. So if you look back at the media and you start and you look at it with cynical eyes and you've lost trust for Anthony Fauci at this point, like I did. And I said, okay, well, I see one lie.
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You know, it's like in a true crime when the detective, the person tells one lie and they're like, okay, well, this is probably the killer because now they're lying about this one thing. That's the way that it felt for me. It's like, how could you tell lies this big and not be lying about everything? I have to assume that you're lying about everything now.
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And so, you know, you're going to push this experimental technology that... conservatively should take about five to 10 years to test in humans before you release it to the public. that's going to make certain individuals and companies billions of dollars.
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Money, by the way, that flowed back to the NIH and to Fauci's organization, we know now $650 million funded back to that organization through royalties from the pharmaceutical companies. And there is a system in place that is favoring a fixed outcome. And that outcome doesn't have anything to do with public health, and it doesn't really have anything to do with the most effective thing.
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It's got to be new, and it's got to benefit our friends. And Moderna was a great friend to the U.S. government. In fact, Moderna was mostly funded by the U.S. government for a period of time. It was never really a successful company. They'd been working on that cancer program with mRNA. It didn't stick.
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um they were also funded by the dod directly so it's a pharmaceutical company being funded by the dod the department of defense and ultimately this project was a big deal for fauci and for others and this idea of this coronavirus vaccine And the way in which it got preferential treatment in the process is obvious.
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In fact, there was a deal to develop this vaccine before the pandemic was even announced. And people will tell you, oh, no, that's just a coincidence that the information sharing agreement with Ralph Baric, the guy who was involved in the research at Wuhan and Moderna and NIH and, you know, Fauci's under Fauci's influence.
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That was just a coincidence because it says on the paper MERS vaccine, not not SARS vaccine. this is the type of trickery and tomfoolery and bullshit that runs bureaucracies, you know?
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You've been in the system long enough, you know what to put in an email, you know what a grant proposal should have and should not have in it, and you know if you're going to do an information sharing agreement before the world is hit with the worst pandemic of a generation for a vaccine... to have a front runner position that you don't want to have too many fingerprints on that.
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The vaccine for this virus was in research for almost five years prior to the virus happening. And many scientists, like the folks in my film, have been ringing the alarm that this was an existential risk to humanity for close to two decades. That's crazy. It's absurd.
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So let's call it a MERS vaccine and not a SARS vaccine. All of that happened. All of that happened. And the reason why it happened is because there was knowledge that this virus was going to ravage the world months before it was reported.
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And that it's insane to think that Anthony Fauci, a preeminent infectious disease, you know, not a virologist, but someone in public health who's been studying these viruses, did not get the fucking memo that a virus was spreading all over China before December. That's hard to believe.
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Well, it's interesting because there is this theory that Anthony Fauci, a man with so much knowledge, understood that in the wrong hands this disaster could be World War III and that the reason why he covered it up was to prevent Trump from starting World War III and making a declaration of war because of the actions of the Chinese. Yeah, that plays well.
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But I think that there's a much harder pill to swallow in that we covered it up because we were part of it. And what we did in the shadows that hasn't been reported yet, who knows how ugly that is. And that's our government. China's going to be China. China's going to do what China does. China is, for the most part—
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And what I discovered in looking into it was that you start to see a pattern and that there were other events. In fact, you brought up Obama regulating gain-of-function. Well, that happens right at the same time that there's an Ebola outbreak in West Africa. And there is a connection to gain-of-function research as a potential origin for that outbreak, and it was successfully covered up.
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our enemy in the united states i don't consider them my enemy because i'm not a government i'm a citizen and i i think that all governments potentially can be abusive apparently yeah my government is abusive right so if people don't have civil liberties in china if people can't report on things and they're censored on china if the citizens are you know neglected and abused and and and um
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manipulated in China. I have a logical explanation for that. China's going to be China. The part that I refuse to accept is that the great experiment of democracy, the leader of thought on the planet, the guardian of truth and democracy and the best system did the exact same thing and pretended like they were the good guy.
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I don't understand either.
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They're all in the movie. And that's what's so interesting is that if you look at this movie... There aren't that many, then. There aren't that many, sadly. But there are many that aren't in the movie. But I think a phenomenon happened that I joined this party at a point of real, I think...
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apathy even for the people that fought so hard to expose the truth because that by that point there had been a grand proposal that got released to the public there had been all these damning emails to fauci there had been all this and still no a wide scale awareness and what's interesting is that's when i started making the film and in a way what feels like the bottom of this story is that all of this exists and no one's doing anything about it
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And for many people who are not really in love with Donald Trump's policies or find other aspects of that base hard to swallow, they feel this great hope now. And three people in our film are going to be in prominent positions that are historic, the nominations for these positions. Jay Bhattacharya is going to run the NIH.
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He's been smeared and maligned. He's a wonderful scientist and virologist.
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A very decent human being and someone who cares about helping people. Yes, I totally agree. He does not have any pharmaceutical underwriting.
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No weird agenda. Marty Makary.
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okay, in the movie, okay? Marty Makary is a wonderful doctor who did whatever he could to challenge some of the sort of subjective medicine that was happening during COVID. He believed in herd immunity. He believed in a lot of things that, you know, were unpopular.
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But the truth is, is that when he said the pandemic was going to spread all around the world back in January, he actually was not loved by Republicans, and they called him an alarmist and, you know, a lot of things. So, Let's just realize that who appears to be a hero in one political party was an enemy a day before. I mean, I'm that person now.
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I mean, if you look at the rest of my movies, I mean, I'm someone who would be labeled an enemy of the state for someone on the right. The truth is, is that... the truth actually matters. And that if you look beyond politics, we need to unite around these things. And so the film is a coalition of people, including Jeffrey Sachs, who was on this show and is a wonderful thinker,
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And someone who is clearly on the left, and Sam Husseini, who's a Palestinian-American journalist who's been kicked out of a lot of press rooms, who is, you know, extremely outspoken about what's happening in Israel and is obviously dismayed by what's happening in Gaza.
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and you find the same people who were implicated in that outbreak including anthony fauci on secret teleconferences right after the news breaks about covid and they actually happen to be people who write the most passionate papers that covid came from nature people who were previously suspected of being the source of a lab leak so so we can say those people were lying when they claimed it came from the wet market in wuhan
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uh and it goes against caste right that all of these people agree that covid was completely and totally an inside job a lab accident that anthony fauci is you know for lack of a better word pure evil and you know that's what's needed now and what's incredibly refreshing is Many of these voices are now in nominations for huge posts that have been compromised for decades.
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The NIH has been compromised for decades. I mean, at least as long as since 9-11, but potentially longer. And the FDA, I mean, that's been compromised for a long time now. And there's also other people. I mean, I was given permission to say this, but Andrew Huff, who's in our film, is undersecretary to RFK. You've got a guy who was a firsthand witness to...
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to the spying of a U.S.-funded nonprofit on a Chinese lab and who worked for Peter Daszak's nonprofit, who was then harassed for years and called a lunatic and a lot of different things. And... The truth is that he knew what he was talking about, and he's now in a position to use his knowledge of technology and use his knowledge of epidemiology to monitor pandemic threats.
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And I mean all pandemic threats, not the ones that... just come from nature. We actually have people in positions right now. What RFK is going to do, for anyone who understands the extent to which companies are poisoning American citizens with the permission of the American government, literally, okay? Half of the things in a supermarket aisle are not good for you.
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And when you go to Europe, they're illegal, right? Okay? Or you go to Japan or another country, they're illegal.
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Russia, illegal. Okay? But here in the United States, they're not. And the amount of health complications that exist from these products fuel the other part of the industry, which is perpetual sickness. And COVID, whether designed to do this or not, creates perpetual sickness. And one of the most frightening things is that this Calamity is not behind us, right?
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In fact, the media wants you to believe that it's behind you. They believe through their data, they claim, that people are over COVID. They don't want to talk about it anymore. How could we be over something that's still augmenting our genes right now? It still has a panoply of reactions, including turbo cancers, even if you just got the virus and weren't vaccinated. How could we be over that?
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And how could we be over the fact that when we lied about it originally, when it was lied about and the media didn't cover it, that more funding for this research happened? There are more labs doing gain-of-function research right now. And one of the most frightening things that concerns me and I believe is absolutely urgent right now
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is that for the last six months, we all have seen reports about bird flu coming over naturally from cow milk, from a cat. There was a farm worker who got it. And call me a cynical person. The threat of bird flu, lab-generated bird flu, has existed since the study that Anthony Fauci conducted, funded with Ron Fouchier and Kara Oka for 10 years.
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people have feared a bird flu coming out of the lab for 10 years the wet market proved that you got to be a little bit sharper at a story of it coming from nature and for six months now we've seen story after story isolated crossover and it's not just from one source it's coming from milk it's coming from a cat you know to me this is them sharpening the tool because it is absolutely inevitable
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that a bird flu will cross over into humans and it won't be natural. And the one we're going to be infected with is not going to be the one that infected the cat or the cow milk. It's going to be from a lab.
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i think that there's no way a reasonable person can look at the evidence here and think that people were telling the truth think that anthony fauci was telling the truth think that the scientists who wrote these papers wrote them with any ethical standards uh and that they didn't commit fraud it appears that they all committed some form of fraud whether it be scientific fraud some some of these crimes are felonies they committed perjury
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COVID changed everything about the world. And the fatality is like 1% to 3% max for a virus like COVID. Some people would argue it's under 1%. Bird flu is like straight down the middle. Doesn't matter if you're a kid or an elderly person. You're starting in ranges of like 10% to 50%.
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Yes. Bird flu is way more lethal than COVID. Bird flu, when Fauci funded these studies and scientists were debating the work at conventions, there's a scene of it in the movie. A journalist says, I thought this was a doomsday virus. Why are we doing this work? It is a doomsday virus.
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And keep in mind all of the transitions and shifts in power that occurred for a virus that was not a doomsday virus. What happens when there is a doomsday virus? Who's gonna benefit? Who's gonna lose? How much power is gonna shift from an event like that? And you've got a situation now where all the people I just mentioned,
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going to destabilize the FDA, going to destabilize the NIH, going to declassify all of the information that would prove a story that's incredibly damning for a lot of people, including pharmaceutical companies, nation states. You've got Donald Trump, who's not liked by a lot of the establishment and these bureaucracies that thrive on being insulated
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in some ways, more powerful than the president of the United States, some of the bureaucracies. And that's been proven through history multiple times. It seems like it would be a really great time for a distraction. And the risk is that we are going to suffer from another man-made pandemic before we figured out who's responsible for the last one.
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And it's going to hurt us so much that we won't even care.
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And that's coming. That's why this is urgent. That's why I have no issue partnering with anyone who wants to do activism around this issue. If we thought nuclear disarmament was a core issue threatening, you know, the human race, this type of work is in multiples of hundreds as far as the risk.
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I think that the whole Ukraine thing is really fascinating, right? Like, I can't tell you that— We know that, by the way.
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No, there's biolabs in Ukraine.
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Yes, totally. And Metabiota and the connections to Hunter Biden. Metabiota is very much connected to the research, including things like the diffuse proposal, including Peter Daszak, who's like an evil scientist-slash-spy. who's potentially not just spying for the U.S., but spying for the Chinese Communist Party and working as a double agent.
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I mean, all of these, why are all these things, why are they all in the same bucket? I don't know. It doesn't make sense.
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Perfect place to have them, right? No one's looking. There's no regulation. You can do whatever you want there. In fact, a lot of the work we were offshoring in China served the same purpose.
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Yeah, sure.
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A law can happen in the cloak of chaos and war. We know that from history. I mean, things happen in war zones.
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I mean, in all fairness, let's be real. Your former employer used to do the same thing for years.
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Multiple scientists committed perjury in front of Congress. Anthony Fauci committed perjury in front of Congress. But what we have to remember about Fauci is he's been playing this game for 50 years. He knows how DC works. He knows how to operate.
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Oh yeah, they were mad at me. So let's not, no one is singled out in the corrupt nature of mainstream media.
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Because it's about ratings. Because Roger Ailes' brilliant idea to make opinion-based news killed the Walter Cronkite approach.
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I mean, every one of them has a cancer from MSNBC. I mean, they had Fauci on and celebrated his book. He was on Maddow. He was on all these people. And look, I know for a fact that Rachel Maddow is a very intelligent person, and I think she may mean well. I know Joy Reid. Joy Reid was in one of my films. She's an intelligent person, and she means well. The industry that they are in
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How far up the ladder do we want to go?
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Do we want to let it be the government controlling media companies, or do we want to admit that the government has suffered from complete agency capture in every division of the government, and that veiled interests like pharmaceutical companies or the military-industrial complex companies, for-profit corporations, influence the government more than its voters, more than its politicians?
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Correct. And I want to, you know, I've been dying to do this, but the deep state was ours first. I mean, you know, the concept of a deep state was a leftist concept of agency capture and things like this. I mean, we could argue that.
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I still don't. It's a buzz.
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And the reason why he may get away with committing perjury is because he was the one who made the regulations, for the most part, on what gain of function would be and would not be. And he excluded that dangerous research in Wuhan. And on paper, it wasn't gain of function. And that's the type of game that's been played for, like I said, decades now.
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It works well.
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And mainstream media, same thing, dog whistle. You hear that on the left, you're like, oh, I'm done talking to you. Mainstream media, whatever, guy. You know, go back to your conspiracy theorist, right? Let's, Bolshevik, communists, okay, terrorists, conspiracy theorists. Notice a trend?
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Right? These deep state mainstream media theorists, People who devise strategies for capturing the population this way aren't dumb. As a species, we need it to be simple, right? And we are currently being divided by simple concepts like that, even though the truth behind them is very real. We do have a problem with mainstream media being completely captured. And you asked, how does it happen?
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Why is it that there are wall-to-wall ads for medicines? Do you think anyone's sitting at home saying, you know, honey, I want to talk to the doctor about a prescription for Rex Luby or whatever. Rebelsis. Yeah, Rebelsis or, you know, I can't even, they're so absurd. The names, they've run out of names are so absurd now. What is that?
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No.
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large media organizations considered to be the last line of defense, the free press in the United States, the fourth estate, are completely captured. The same way the FDA is captured, the same way the NIH was captured. They're captured. And they're drunk off the teat of the people who are paying for ads.
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And if someone's going to pay for that many ads and you lost that ad revenue overnight, that's an incredible bargaining chip. She probably shouldn't cover that.
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It's an art form, honestly. I really respect and appreciate the people who are running daily programs like that and offering to their viewers a take. And I get the privilege to spend, I do it faster than most, but I spend about eight to 12 months, sometimes 14 or 16, living in a story.
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And living in this story for that long and looking at the data and the evidence for that long, I've lost a lot of sleep. I bet. I've lost a lot of sleep. I've lost a lot of hope. And I think that people often ask, well, what are we going to do now? So then what should we do? Should there be laws? Yeah, there's got to be laws. There's got to be all sorts of things.
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There's got to be an urgent intervention right now to stop the lab work that's happening that could cause another pandemic. But in a way... You can't turn a battleship in the middle of the ocean. It doesn't do a U-turn. I mean, there's a lot going on right now that needs to be dismantled.
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And like I said, what is crazy is that four years ago, under the indoctrination, under the sort of way that I had lived my life, I would look at a Donald Trump victory and I'd say, this is a disaster. This is the way liberals who are drunk off MSNBC, they think the world is ending. It's a great consumer to have. When the consumer thinks the world is ending, they actually spend really freely.
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We can get into that in another episode. But the way fear really affects people's, but this constant fear, you know, the people that are actually most afraid of Donald Trump are, a lot of them are extremely powerful folks running bureaucracies who have been able to control the system for a period of time.
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You know a lot, but I also want to speak in a way that people can approach this story because it's mind-bending.
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Yes. And that's this other side to the story. And it was really heartbreaking for me to have these affiliations over the years and then to see this affiliation that I had identified with. And mind you, I'm not a political person. I see fraud in all politics. But to see that
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who I believed was out there to help the poor and provide services and believe all these different things about equality and, you know, these buzzwords, was the elite. And by the time we've gotten to Joe Biden, it's... The party... represents the elite now. It's not doing anything for the working class. It's not doing anything for the poor.
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It's not protecting the people that I think should be protected. And maybe I'm biased because I've lived in cities most of my life, but there are some services that are needed. And of course, there's corruption in every service. I don't have an answer. And the truth is, is that a lot of these politicians, they don't have an answer either, but they'll tell you what you want in order to get there.
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And when they get there, it's a whole different type of question.
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There's a lot of spiritual people who think that just saying the truth is a divine act. We have to be willing to say the truth. People are afraid to say the truth.
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Yeah.
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I'm dismayed by all the different signals that exist that sadly... It's not possible anymore. And as much as I want to believe it is on a political level, that if we're not on a search and destroy on those bureaucratic levels and those sort of all those agency capture moments, and that we're not just putting crazy people in management positions.
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And I can tell you, it is crazy for me to see the individuals who I know and who I've sat with and who I know that they have integrity be called crazy, wacko, fringe, you know, idiots, you know, they're going to, you know, whatever. And so I think that that's the real reform is, you know, until you clear out that rot, right?
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Well, we can't blame Fauci for all of it. It was really Dick Cheney who had, you know, been very successful at using 9-11 to achieve other things.
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And we were talking about pharmaceutical companies having the lion's share of ad revenue across the entire sector. Until you make it illegal for pharmaceutical companies to advertise in the United States, same way tobacco companies can't advertise on television. They're relegated to magazines and they can't even have billboards in a lot of places. pharmaceutical companies should be way worse.
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Yeah, it's true. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, like I said, lost a lot of sleep. I mean, like anyone else, COVID- You know what's interesting is I didn't. Wow, great. Because when I could finally get through to people and I had their attention, I saw the transition happen in them. And I think what's interesting is like, if you look at a zombie movie or you look at a piece of science fiction, there's always a hack, right?
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There's a hack to the mind control. There's a hack to the sickness that people are suffering from the thing that's turning them against each other. And I think that one of the most sinister things about COVID is we lost the ability to sit in the same room, to look someone in the eye, to have a conversation.
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And even before COVID, even by the time we got to the 2016 election, maybe before that, we lacked the ability to have conversations across different ideological means. But the fact remains that if you have a logical conversation with someone about an issue, that that's really where our humanity comes through.
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Yeah. And the erosion of all of our civil liberties. True. The, you know, permitting torture, violating the Geneva Convention. These things were all in play after 9-11 because we were in a war against terror. And anthrax was painted as a continuation of the war against terror. The truth is, is that as Bush and Cheney were leaving office, it was released that anthrax was not a terrorist attack.
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And all of the different platforms that we're living off of, that we're addicted to, social media, you know, regular mainstream media, it's designed to actually take us out of that humanity and to make us mechanical. in the way that we live our life. And the more mechanical we are, the less willing we are to say, oh, wow, that's interesting. I feel that in my heart.
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And I truly believe I will make this challenge to anyone who considers themselves a liberal, a Democrat, who feels heartbroken about this last election, that if you can make it 10 minutes into this film, you will never feel the same way ever again. And I believe that it's not because I'm a great filmmaker. It's not because, you know, it's special.
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It's because the information has been so disparate, purposefully, that you can't connect it in one sitting. And what the film does is it allows you to connect 75 years of scientific arrogance, of government, you know, disasters, all in one place and realize they're all connected.
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And that has been deprived of the public for decades now, a lot of it because of cable news, because there isn't enough time to connect at all.
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And so I could sit here with you and despite, you know, seeing you on the air and maybe you had opinions that weren't my own. You're a human being. We're sitting here. We're having a conversation. I don't care who you voted for because we're talking about the truth now. And we need to have that conversation because everyone is at risk right now. This is not a political issue.
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Everyone, not just in America, is at risk. Everyone on the planet is at risk right now. And if it can benefit certain people so enormously... whether it was an accident or intentional, and if so much power can be transferred from an event like this, it's gonna happen again. That's right.
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And that's why I made the film, and that's why I'm willing to work with anyone who's passionate about stopping this from happening again, about holding people like Anthony Fauci accountable, about, you know, getting rid of the rot in these agencies that are meant to protect people.
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since when are we not about consumer protections anymore remember that part of the united states when people were trying to protect constituents it's the opposite we're selling effectively selling american citizens down river to abusive and somewhat murderous forces that have captured our government and believe me they're not donald trump They're big agro. They're big pharma.
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They're things that poison us every day. There's connective tissue to these stories, like in the movie, that if you sat and you experienced it in one place, you would never look at the world ever again the same way. And all I hope is that it can break through enough to do that. And I thank you for having me on to discuss it, you know?
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Thank you.
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Jenner Furst: Secret Chinese Biotech Programs, and the Documentary That Could Put Dr. Fauci in Jail
Anthrax was an inside job from a scientist at Fort Detrick, one of our bioweapons facilities.
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Yeah, the title is ironic.
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Well, died is a very generous way of putting what may have happened to him.
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I think that. when he began saying that he didn't act alone and that the media's version of his story was very far from the truth and when members of congress started believing that he didn't act alone he suspiciously committed suicide by taking a bunch of tylenol so i don't really know many accomplished scientists
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bio-terrorist experts, people who understand all the different compounds that can kill them very peacefully and very fast, who would take a lot of acetaminophen to kill themselves. It's just very suspicious. And the timing was even more suspicious. And I think what I learned was that
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in many ways, Anthony Fauci's whole sort of advancement into this unchecked power, into becoming the most prominent scientist on the planet, the largest funder of biomedical research on the planet, was predicated on a hoax. And to this day, he's never admitted that anthrax was not a terrorist attack. And you can't find that anywhere in his book. If it wasn't a terror attack, what was it?
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Anthrax was a false flag attack, and anthrax like 9-11 allowed for the complete deregulation of bioweapons research, of biodefense research. And if you go back in time, you see this confluence of things. You see the science advancing in very exciting ways, like CRISPR, the ability to edit genes, to do things we've never been able to do before. And you see...
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this idea that we're under attack and that the enemy may use unconventional means to attack us. And bioweapons immediately came into focus because of the anthrax attack. And that was used to fund a lot of countermeasures, quote-unquote countermeasures, for bioweapons.
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But the interesting thing about gain-of-function and the interesting thing about doing this research in the first place is that in order to create a countermeasure for an agent that's never been known or created or a virus that doesn't exist, you have to create the agent and the virus.
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And so it creates a weapon... a pandemic that has never been seen by man before and arguably carries more risk than it carries benefit. And Fauci was almost evangelical about this research to the point that it was suspicious. And scientists like Richard Ebright and others, the Cambridge Working Group, I mean, the debate started almost directly after anthrax and Fauci began doing this research.
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I mean, the debate started in like 2002. that we should not be directing all of our research dollars into this one narrow field of quote pandemic preparedness and yet fauci did and amassed so much influence and power in that system that he was able to shut down every critic and there were a lot of close calls and there were a lot of red flags you know after anthrax and before ebola
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Fauci supported the engineering of avian flu in 2011 to make it airborne. Bird flu is not naturally airborne. It takes a while to transfer from its host birds to humans. It happens with pigs. It happens with other intermediate species. And a scientist supported by Anthony Fauci used gain-of-function techniques in order to hone the virus to be airborne in humans.
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No, that happened. Yeah.
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So this was celebrated by Fauci as a victory of science. There was a big debate on whether the results of this study should even be published. They were published. And Fauci and Francis Collins, who was also the NIH director at the time of the pandemic and very much part of the whole problem that we faced, they wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post and said that this was a flu risk worth taking.